The War Update Sucks..

AnonFeedback4Now

See title. War sucks now. I'm an officer in a very casual alliance. I came back to this game a year ago after having taken a long break, though I've been playing the game since a little after launch. I remember when Alliances were first introduced, and when War was first introduced.. Though, I don't intend to go back over how the game was long ago..

I'm just here to express my opinion that the adjustments to the War system.. they just aren't good. They weren't good when it released broken and kept your heroes locked in for weeks, and now they've changed the map around... it sucks even more. The new map with all the portals is just obnoxious to look at. My allies are already stupid enough and don't go for 100% completion, they don't need to be more confused on what paths to take. Not to mention, the engagement during attack phase has plummeted anyway.

Don't even get me started with all the portals in the monthly Event Quest, or how there are 5 energy cost nodes. Really guys? 5 energy? It makes me not even want to try to complete two tiers of the event when there's two quests with 5 energy tiles and a ridiculous amount of paths. Why make it worse when it was already difficult enough, albeit possible, for a f2p to accomplish? Reducing the quality of your game and making it arbitrarily harder to play.. for no reason, does NOT incentivize me to spend money on the game, despite what any analytics might tell you. But I digress.

I use to play the game almost entirely for the Wars. I found it fun to set up defenders on good nodes, consider what synergies my allies have, knowing what heroes have certain abilities, and having the time to set all that up before a war began. But I don't get any of that now. War sucks, it's not fun, it's not engaging, it's not pleasing to look at, it's not straightforward, and it's been glitchy since it got "updated". I doubt this post will change anything, but like I said in the beginning, I've been playing this game for a while. I WANT to enjoy it.. It's basically the last bastion of Marvel that doesn't suck here in 2023, so I would be remiss to not at least express my opinion in the right channels. And that opinion is that the direction it looks like you are headed in with this unappealing new War system and stuff like 5 energy cost nodes, I will probably drop this game for something else before too long.

I don't even have a suggestion for how to fix it, really.. Get rid of the portals is one thing, but that wouldn't fix it still. Don't change things for the worse, ie 5 energy cost nodes in timed quests. Put more effort into making things more fun instead of more difficult. Anyway, thanks for coming to M'COC Talk.

Demonzfyre

Mmmk

DNA3000

AnonFeedback4Now said:

I WANT to enjoy it.. It's basically the last bastion of Marvel that doesn't suck here in 2023, so I would be remiss to not at least express my opinion in the right channels. And that opinion is that the direction it looks like you are headed in with this unappealing new War system and stuff like 5 energy cost nodes, I will probably drop this game for something else before too long.

Honestly, I don't think you do. Setting aside your complains about war, dropping comments like "last bastion of Marvel that doesn't suck" and complaining about the high energy costs of monthly quests when the actual total cost to do monthly quests went down overall makes me skeptical you want to enjoy the game. It sounds like you are looking for reasons to not like it, and not trying real hard to understand if what you're complaining about is even a real problem.

ahmynuts

Most of this rant is just uninformed nonsense. The new war system is annoying though I'll give you that

DNA3000

ahmynuts said:

Most of this rant is just uninformed nonsense. The new war system is annoying though I'll give you that

It is goofy in many ways and I've seen very strong evidence that many alliances below tier 5 have just thrown up their hands and said whatever (my own alliance has been winning wars it has no business winning all the way up to tier 7) but I think except for a few genuinely bad glitches and bugs the "flow" of war will probably take a season or two for players to get used to.

ahmynuts

DNA3000 said:

ahmynuts said:

Most of this rant is just uninformed nonsense. The new war system is annoying though I'll give you that

It is goofy in many ways and I've seen very strong evidence that many alliances below tier 5 have just thrown up their hands and said whatever (my own alliance has been winning wars it has no business winning all the way up to tier 7) but I think except for a few genuinely bad glitches and bugs the "flow" of war will probably take a season or two for players to get used to.

I think once Kabam irons out all of the bugs (which will take forever let's be honest BWDO is still crashing the game like 8 months later) then it'll feel better for a lot of people. One thing I'm not 100% sure is a bug that i encountered recently was that i simply could not place defense. I would press the begin button and nothing would happen for the first war. But then it for some reason let me in with the second lol

Starhawk

The new monthly quest energy costs do suck as it costs more do a single path which I used to do for harder content. I do like having less paths for the quests that I do explore. As for aw I actually like the new format as it allows me to do more fights than I used to if I feel like it (no requirement to do aw in my alliance).... However I don't like not earning milestone points in aw anymore for placement making it harder to get all the milestones especially when we get matched up with teams that have no defenders. Another thing I hate is it costs more energy to be able to do the hero use milestones when playing the monthly quests. For sure some good changes lately but it isn't all roses that's for sure

DNA3000

Starhawk said:

The new monthly quest energy costs do suck as it costs more do a single path which I used to do for harder content.

If you're doing full exploration, the energy costs matter. If you're only doing one path, the energy costs do not matter, because the amount of energy required is tiny compared to the amount of energy you get. For reference, the total energy required to do single path completion for the higher three tiers of EQ is 293 energy. It used to cost 273.

This is a negligible difference in energy costs for those doing single path completion.

flapjax

I'm just not the biggest fan of the 3 mini Islands and the new boss island.

IMO if they added back the 3 fights to the boss island and then just had the remaining 6 fights on a mini island together it would make things more straight forward.

willrun4adonut

My alliance (silver 1) hates the new updates and yet, I love it. They've stopped caring about placement, getting people to move groups, etc. We've even stopped using Line really to call lanes. So it's just jump in and do what you want/can and we don't care if we win or lose.

Demonzfyre

flapjax said:

I'm just not the biggest fan of the 3 mini Islands and the new boss island.

IMO if they added back the 3 fights to the boss island and then just had the remaining 6 fights on a mini island together it would make things more straight forward.

I think the goal is to strategize more. Work as a team. The days where one or 2 people doing all the heavy lifting are hopefully gone.

Also where generally one person running the right path got the MVP and hopefully we won't see people bragging mvp anymore.

laserjohn26

I think you told a little fib when you said you played the game since a little after launch. Someone who played the game that long would know things intuitively just from doing it for 9 years such as the energy per quest has gone down. Not to mention other incoherent ramblings. I award you zero points and may....