Legit question for the designer of Dani…

SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★
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So you design a champion that has a miss mechanic to counter cheat death… Nick and Herc both counter miss.

So you design a mutant, a class that thrives when their specials crit… and you give her a lower crit rate than COLOSSUS…
Look at this:
Dani:


Friggin Colossus:


I don’t understand the thought process here, she doesn’t need this limitation, she feels like a noodle in 8/10 matchups when she doesn’t crit…
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  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,508 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
  • Amntis1000Amntis1000 Member Posts: 32 ★
    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,508 ★★★★★
    edited December 2023
    At least I gave you guys something to talk and argue about today instead of Banquet rewards (that yall trying very hard to not criticize) very nice
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,508 ★★★★★
    SecondSkriller said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    List of terrible stats this year:

    Zemo’s block proficiency: 61.8%
    Vox’s crit chance is 7.8% (atleast he can stack dex)
    Abs man crit rating: 11.1%, crit damage 143% and block prof 62.8%
    Fam base armor is 0% lol
    Morbius crit damage 121%
    Photon crit damage 126%
    Gladiator block proficiency 62.8% (even Kindred has 66.2% it’s terrible)
    Sandman stat page lol:


    Werewolf block prof 62.3%
    Cassie Lang block prof 61.3%
    Viv Vision stat page holy:


    Deathless Guilly block prof 61.8%
    Kushala block prof 61.8%
    Onslaught crit rate 15.5%
    Maestro stat page:

    90% of champions this year have great stats is a wrong statement.
    You weren't supposed to give facts to disagree gang but I'm glad you did.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,450 ★★★★★
    SecondSkriller said:

    Amntis1000 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    Without decay silk at r4 still destroys any defender that can be stunned at 100% health. I’ve taken numerous battlegrounds fights with her and she wrecks them in under 60 seconds no problem. Great utility and some great damage. Then again, you obviously don’t have many smart takes based on this thread
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,450 ★★★★★
    Amntis1000 said:

    SecondSkriller said:

    Amntis1000 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    this might actually be the worst take i have ever heard in my entire life. she is easily the 2nd best champ in the game and it is not even close.
    Wouldn’t say second best in the game lmao but yeah she’s phenomenal. One of the best attackers for war and battlegrounds even without decay
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★
    AverageDesi said:

    Bro sincerely, are you looking for stuff where there is none? Stats are meant to be paired with the champion. Corvus glaive has 0% crit rate. I suppose you're going to complain about corvus's crit rate

    You’re offering an extreme example. I’m mostly looking at those 61.8% block proficiencies
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★
    Amntis1000 said:

    SecondSkriller said:

    Amntis1000 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    this might actually be the worst take i have ever heard in my entire life. she is easily the 2nd best champ in the game and it is not even close.
    Second best in the game hahahahahahahahaha hilarious
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,567 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    At least I gave you guys something to talk and argue about today instead of Banquet rewards (that yall trying very hard to not criticize) very nice

    And the best comeback of the year goes to...
  • Jack2634Jack2634 Member Posts: 923 ★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Sincerely hoping that this is a joke. Herc was an exception, not the norm, and we’ve had excellent champs that aren’t just broken. “OP” champs like Herc will never be a thing again because they shouldn’t be a thing again.
    kinda hard to say about this mate. players said it all the time when "true focus" nodes were made just to counter quake/ghost and no 6 star version of quake and magik being available . Then herc eventually came , and become twice as OP
  • Darkness275Darkness275 Member Posts: 850 ★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    SecondSkriller said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    List of terrible stats this year:

    Zemo’s block proficiency: 61.8%
    Vox’s crit chance is 7.8% (atleast he can stack dex)
    Abs man crit rating: 11.1%, crit damage 143% and block prof 62.8%
    Fam base armor is 0% lol
    Morbius crit damage 121%
    Photon crit damage 126%
    Gladiator block proficiency 62.8% (even Kindred has 66.2% it’s terrible)
    Sandman stat page lol:


    Werewolf block prof 62.3%
    Cassie Lang block prof 61.3%
    Viv Vision stat page holy:


    Deathless Guilly block prof 61.8%
    Kushala block prof 61.8%
    Onslaught crit rate 15.5%
    Maestro stat page:

    90% of champions this year have great stats is a wrong statement.
    You can’t be this daft. Yeah, some stats lack because the champs abilities make up for it. AM gets more crit in his abilities, Cassie reduces damage with her debuffs and taunt, Viv was designed to use her phase block mechanic, Vox can increase his crit rate immensely and consistently crit, FAM gains armor and glances, etc

    Gladiator can also situationally negate 80% of all incoming damage.

    Every single one of their complaints about poor stats can be countered.
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,470 ★★★★★
    Dani Moonstar slaps. I took mine to rank 5. Her crit rate has not made a difference, and anyway it is OK with me for a champ to have limitations.

    Silk is amazing. Also have mine at rank 5. She's high on my ascension list, but not at the top.

    Colossus is also great. Maybe you don't know this, but his crit rate is increased by each armor he gets, so the base stats are just the starting point.
  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Member Posts: 1,582 ★★★★
    SecondSkriller said:


    So you design a mutant, a class that thrives when their specials crit… and you give her a lower crit rate than COLOSSUS…

    Friggin Colossus:




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  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Demonzfyre said:

    Amntis1000 said:

    SecondSkriller said:

    Amntis1000 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    this might actually be the worst take i have ever heard in my entire life. she is easily the 2nd best champ in the game and it is not even close.
    How OP is acting, is generally how people act when they don't have a champ or can't understand how a champ works.

    The only other reason someone acts like this is because they are a Hercules stan and think every champ has to be like Herc. In other words, they're bad at the game.
    Yes, yes, Silver Centurion best champ. We know 😜

    NB: Necro Centurion is the most , annoying but you can counter him with anyone champ I've seen in a while
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    SecondSkriller said:

    AverageDesi said:

    Bro sincerely, are you looking for stuff where there is none? Stats are meant to be paired with the champion. Corvus glaive has 0% crit rate. I suppose you're going to complain about corvus's crit rate

    You’re offering an extreme example. I’m mostly looking at those 61.8% block proficiencies
    What's the issue with my example? 0% crit rate is way lower than the 61.8% , in fact some might even say you can't go lower. But I'm not mathematician. Might need to tag that RNA guy
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,450 ★★★★★
    Darkness275 said:




    Emilia90 said:

    SecondSkriller said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    List of terrible stats this year:

    Zemo’s block proficiency: 61.8%
    Vox’s crit chance is 7.8% (atleast he can stack dex)
    Abs man crit rating: 11.1%, crit damage 143% and block prof 62.8%
    Fam base armor is 0% lol
    Morbius crit damage 121%
    Photon crit damage 126%
    Gladiator block proficiency 62.8% (even Kindred has 66.2% it’s terrible)
    Sandman stat page lol:


    Werewolf block prof 62.3%
    Cassie Lang block prof 61.3%
    Viv Vision stat page holy:


    Deathless Guilly block prof 61.8%
    Kushala block prof 61.8%
    Onslaught crit rate 15.5%
    Maestro stat page:

    90% of champions this year have great stats is a wrong statement.
    You can’t be this daft. Yeah, some stats lack because the champs abilities make up for it. AM gets more crit in his abilities, Cassie reduces damage with her debuffs and taunt, Viv was designed to use her phase block mechanic, Vox can increase his crit rate immensely and consistently crit, FAM gains armor and glances, etc

    Gladiator can also situationally negate 80% of all incoming damage.

    Every single one of their complaints about poor stats can be countered.
    Exactly, every champ here has some boost in their abilities and their base stat totals are fine for what they are. Honestly can’t believe posts like the ones OP are making can be taken seriously that don’t take everything into account
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Unless you have a Terrax high enough, Dani can be a real pain to fight in BGs. When balancing a Champ, the overall capability is considered. Not just putting Stats on par.
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