Does Kabam legally respect our consumer protection laws?

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  • CaviCavi Member Posts: 59
    Just negative comments to degrade someone for voicing a honest opinion. I don’t spend money on something and you take it away out of no where that’s robbery. Now since you saying if I play this game than i have no say so well I’m not spending a dime or wasting my time anymore. You can have your game and defend it, but I doubt it’ll attract more users with you type of people as followers. Straight up cyber bullying anyone that states the real
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,023 ★★★★★
    Cavi said:

    Go ahead make fun of me but that’s cyber bullying

    You should read the ToS. You don't own your account. Kabam also has a clause that gives them the right to make changes to their service whenever they want and you can't do anything about it. You pay money to get ahead in this game. Paying money does not mean you get rights or privileges that you make up in your head. Companies have every right to run their business they way they see fit. Because you don't like a change, it doesn't mean you're entitled to recompense in the monetary form.
  • CaviCavi Member Posts: 59
    You guys in the comments making fun of me is cute when I prove you wrong let’s see who has the last laugh. Lol funny but still cyber bullies straight up trolls. You will go to war for kabam and think you’ll get a free give away. Lol more like a free 2 star champ. Please stop the brown nosing it’s very embarrassing. Like damn you really go out your way to defend a game that don’t even know you.
  • CaviCavi Member Posts: 59
    Since I have no rights and they can do whatever they please with the account I created. I will never spend another penny on this game. I quit and I’m fr. Now that I know that I will not participate in anything this game does because I do not have rights as a consumer basically
  • CaviCavi Member Posts: 59
    @Demonzfyre talk to a circle of friends if I have any? Wow, and that’s encouraging someone trying to simply state an opinion. Sounds like that’s a total insult…
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,654 Guardian
    Cavi said:

    You know what? It’s only one guy on here that cares about someone voicing their opinion. The rest are evil cyber bullies on here degrading everything I say. Fine there’s nothing that can be done this game can do whatever they please, but this supporter is leaving. By the way I have real life family NFL players, basketball, and real life relatives that work at MARVEL. I will definitely not encourage them to play this game. Especially with the type of fan base in these forums. Good bye

    That's entirely your prerogative, but you should know that these types of posts happen in the online forums of just about every online game, and many of them would be pointing to your post as an example of a very good reason not to frequent the online game forums of the games they play.

    Plus, I have no idea what sort of sway you could possibly have over potential Marvel employees. I mean, whether you actually have friends that work at Marvel is one thing, but even if you do, I'm skeptical there exist a ton of employees that work at Marvel that would rely upon one person's opinion on whether or not to support an actual Marvel game with their time.

    In fact, I'm struggling to think of a situation where someone asked me for a recommendation for an online game and "it has a toxic fanbase" would be meaningful. People say that about every game's fan base, because there's always people who don't fit into a particular game's community and accuse them of being toxic. The largest and most successful online games probably have the largest amount of accusations of toxicity in the online communities. I hear accusations of toxic playerbases for everything from Clash of Clans to Pokemon Go.

    In fact, my standing recommendation for anyone who asks me about Marvel Contest of Champions is play it for a while and decide if you like it first, before going to the Reddit, the forums, or the global channels for anything. Make your first impression the game, and not the vocal minority of players who chat about it.
  • CaviCavi Member Posts: 59
    @kabamJax respectfully disagreeing is voicing a different opinion not bashing someone in the process and getting away with it. The remarks on this post is very disrespectful towards me and since I Simply voiced my opinion. I feel totally insulted my intelligence has been questioned over a personal opinion.
  • JollyHawkJollyHawk Member Posts: 611 ★★★
    Cavi said:

    @kabamJax respectfully disagreeing is voicing a different opinion not bashing someone in the process and getting away with it. The remarks on this post is very disrespectful towards me and since I Simply voiced my opinion. I feel totally insulted my intelligence has been questioned over a personal opinion.

    Let's take a step back for a minute. Can you please, concisely, tell us what your opinion is?
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,721 Guardian
    Cavi said:

    kabamJax respectfully disagreeing is voicing a different opinion not bashing someone in the process and getting away with it. The remarks on this post is very disrespectful towards me and since I Simply voiced my opinion. I feel totally insulted my intelligence has been questioned over a personal opinion.

    Not to be rude or anything, but didn't you say you were leaving? If you feel like you're being bullied on here and it is affecting you, then you should just close the forums tab and do something else with your time that'll uplift you.
  • CaviCavi Member Posts: 59
    edited December 2023
    My personal opinion far as champs is my own, but I would not recommend this game to friends? No, especially my relatives and associates at Marvel or any other entertainment company. Why? Because like you said if they purchase stuff they will be upset when the company changes it out the blue. I wouldn’t put anyone I know through that. You buy a champ on mk1 ps5 game console and they just take him away they giving refunds because everyone in the world would complain lol.
  • nOuxnOux Member Posts: 522 ★★★
    Cavi said:

    @kabamJax respectfully disagreeing is voicing a different opinion not bashing someone in the process and getting away with it. The remarks on this post is very disrespectful towards me and since I Simply voiced my opinion. I feel totally insulted my intelligence has been questioned over a personal opinion.

    No one is questioning your intelligence, but rather your understanding of live game services legalities.

    Lack of intelligence and lack understanding in something is two completely different things.
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,365 ★★★★★
    Yeah, OP, you started this post by basically saying anybody who disagrees with you is a secret Kabam employee. This is not how make friends on the internet, and certainly not how you convince people to take you seriously.

    As for your legal questions, and I think I’m going to make this offer to anybody who wants to consider legal action, I’m happy to let you know the hourly rate I will bill to explain to you all the ways in which that is a terrible idea.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,933 ★★★★★
    Cavi said:

    My personal opinion far as champs is my own, but I would not recommend this game to friends? No, especially my relatives and associates at Marvel or any other entertainment company. Why? Because like you said if they purchase stuff they will be upset when the company changes it out the blue. I wouldn’t put anyone I know through that. You buy a champ on mk1 ps5 game console and they just take him away they giving refunds because everyone in the world would complain lol.

    This isn't a console game. It's a live service mobile game. Two completely different things. Your comparing apples to bananas.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 877 ★★★★
    Kabam Jax said:

    Rebalancing characters in an online game is a very normal process.

    We make it very clear that we can and will adjust champions, as this is necessary for any live game.

    This is a Term/Condition any Summoner accepts by playing the game.

    Additionally, OP, I think you'll find that every single person in this forum can be very critical of the game and the company running it. No body defends the game through every issue. People (respectfully) disagreeing with you is not defending the company, and it is certainly not bullying you.

    you promised us ownership of these champs if we buy their crystals. where's my stake in marvel entertainment?? i'm calling kevin feige's office right now!
  • CaviCavi Member Posts: 59
    @kabamjax thank you for responding. Everyone I’m not going against you but please be respectful with disagreement. I may not agree with the way mobile games operate, and now that I’m aware. I’m less compelled to participate, but it doesn’t mean I feel like this game isn’t awesome. I just don’t agree with the changing of champs at any giving moment. It makes a consumer feel powerless and complain all the time. That’s just my personal opinion I’m gone now
  • GalactikDonutGalactikDonut Member Posts: 390 ★★★
    Cavi said:

    My personal opinion far as champs is my own, but I would not recommend this game to friends? No, especially my relatives and associates at Marvel or any other entertainment company. Why? Because like you said if they purchase stuff they will be upset when the company changes it out the blue. I wouldn’t put anyone I know through that. You buy a champ on mk1 ps5 game console and they just take him away they giving refunds because everyone in the world would complain lol.

    believe it or not but even console fighting games do balance patches. character nerfs are extremely common in most fighting games. mk1 has already had a major balance patch and mkx had like 25, several of which nerfed dlc characters, and no refunds were given
  • JollyHawkJollyHawk Member Posts: 611 ★★★

    Cavi said:

    My personal opinion far as champs is my own, but I would not recommend this game to friends? No, especially my relatives and associates at Marvel or any other entertainment company. Why? Because like you said if they purchase stuff they will be upset when the company changes it out the blue. I wouldn’t put anyone I know through that. You buy a champ on mk1 ps5 game console and they just take him away they giving refunds because everyone in the world would complain lol.

    believe it or not but even console fighting games do balance patches. character nerfs are extremely common in most fighting games. mk1 has already had a major balance patch and mkx had like 25, several of which nerfed dlc characters, and no refunds were given
    And let's not get started on EA Sports games where athletes ratings are changed as time goes on. Or the fact that your three year old NBA2K game will no longer work on the servers.
  • Longshot_33Longshot_33 Member Posts: 374 ★★★
    @Buttehrs wins. Brutality..
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,933 ★★★★★

    Cavi said:

    My personal opinion far as champs is my own, but I would not recommend this game to friends? No, especially my relatives and associates at Marvel or any other entertainment company. Why? Because like you said if they purchase stuff they will be upset when the company changes it out the blue. I wouldn’t put anyone I know through that. You buy a champ on mk1 ps5 game console and they just take him away they giving refunds because everyone in the world would complain lol.

    believe it or not but even console fighting games do balance patches. character nerfs are extremely common in most fighting games. mk1 has already had a major balance patch and mkx had like 25, several of which nerfed dlc characters, and no refunds were given
    It also happens in mmos and rugs. Take world of warcraft or Final fantasy 14 for example they always are rebalancing end game fights and bosses.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,023 ★★★★★
    Cavi said:

    My personal opinion far as champs is my own, but I would not recommend this game to friends? No, especially my relatives and associates at Marvel or any other entertainment company. Why? Because like you said if they purchase stuff they will be upset when the company changes it out the blue. I wouldn’t put anyone I know through that. You buy a champ on mk1 ps5 game console and they just take him away they giving refunds because everyone in the world would complain lol.

    Prices and products change every single day at millions of companies. Also, Kabam doesn't change things "out of the blue", generally (but there has been many instances of lack of communication).

    I am not even sure anyone knows what you're referring to or what you're even "voicing your opinion" about anyway.

    Asking questions and not attacking people for disagreeing with you goes further than what you did in this post.
  • ReignkingTWReignkingTW Member Posts: 2,774 ★★★★★
    ahmynuts said:

    Cavi said:

    @Demonzfyre talk to a circle of friends if I have any? Wow, and that’s encouraging someone trying to simply state an opinion. Sounds like that’s a total insult…

    If you were simply stating an opinion then this thread would have gone much differently. Instead, you came in here swinging and ranting and then started accusing people of stuff and you got the same attitude thrown back toward you.
    100% this.
  • CaviCavi Member Posts: 59
    @GalactikDonut if they take away sub zero after you purchased it then yes it must be a refund giving on console. I’m not talking about patches so please stop trying to make me look idiotic. I compared a nerfed champ to a the old Version in the mobile game as if it was a totally different champ in comparison. Which is damn near two different champs basically but it’s a mobile game unlike console so the rules are different.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 877 ★★★★
    edited December 2023

    Kabam Jax said:

    Rebalancing characters in an online game is a very normal process.

    We make it very clear that we can and will adjust champions, as this is necessary for any live game.

    This is a Term/Condition any Summoner accepts by playing the game.

    Additionally, OP, I think you'll find that every single person in this forum can be very critical of the game and the company running it. No body defends the game through every issue. People (respectfully) disagreeing with you is not defending the company, and it is certainly not bullying you.

    you promised us ownership of these champs if we buy their crystals. where's my stake in marvel entertainment?? i'm calling kevin feige's office right now!
    lol someone actually thought i was serious
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