R3 Titania or Silk

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Both are unawakened

I know Tatiana reaches a new level once she's duped, and I could awaken her from the necro selector, but I'd rather select a new champ like Hulk or Bishop from it.

That said I'd eventually get her awakened, but Silk seems like she smashes right out the box.

Who would you do? I mainly do BGs and War but Raids will probably be a factor as well. Silk I heard is great for that Maestro

MiniMF

Titania

even without dupe titania is still incredible

DerpyEagle

Silk

Silk all the way

Venoween

Silk

Silky baby

Shshsc

Silk

Polygon said:

Both are unawakened

I know Tatiana reaches a new level once she's duped, and I could awaken her from the necro selector, but I'd rather select a new champ like Hulk or Bishop from it.

That said I'd eventually get her awakened, but Silk seems like she smashes right out the box.

Who would you do? I mainly do BGs and War but Raids will probably be a factor as well. Silk I heard is great for that Maestro

U can't go wrong with silk trust me

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MiniMF said:

even without dupe titania is still incredible

Yeah there's no doubt, it's just , is she as incredible as Silk whilst unduped

Real_Madrid_76_2

Titania

Titania no doubt. So much utility and damage. So many unique debuffs. U always would love those haymakers making u indestructible unstoppable and unblockable

captain_rogers

Titania

you can dex/block most sp1 and sp2, but there are only few champs who reliably tank multiple sp3 that too on demand.

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captain_rogers said:

you can dex/block most sp1 and sp2, but there are only few champs who reliably tank multiple sp3 that too on demand.

But isnt the indestructible uptime not that long? I know it gets 50% extra duration from the dupe (on the sp3),but I havent played her enough to know what scenarios that indestructible can come in handy.

Zuro

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captain_rogers said:

you can dex/block most sp1 and sp2, but there are only few champs who reliably tank multiple sp3 that too on demand.

But isnt the indestructible uptime not that long? I know it gets 50% extra duration from the dupe (on the sp3),but I havent played her enough to know what scenarios that indestructible can come in handy.

The indestructible is up for a solid amount. The only thing the dupe does is give her a slight chance to duplicate a debuff, plus a slight fury boost. She is great without the dupe

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Zuro said:

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captain_rogers said:

you can dex/block most sp1 and sp2, but there are only few champs who reliably tank multiple sp3 that too on demand.

But isnt the indestructible uptime not that long? I know it gets 50% extra duration from the dupe (on the sp3),but I havent played her enough to know what scenarios that indestructible can come in handy.

The indestructible is up for a solid amount. The only thing the dupe does is give her a slight chance to duplicate a debuff, plus a slight fury boost. She is great without the dupe

I might be reading this incorrectly, but with the dupe doesn’t it reduce the haymaker cooldown even quicker since more debuffs are being applied?

Zuro

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Zuro said:

Polygon said:

captain_rogers said:

you can dex/block most sp1 and sp2, but there are only few champs who reliably tank multiple sp3 that too on demand.

But isnt the indestructible uptime not that long? I know it gets 50% extra duration from the dupe (on the sp3),but I havent played her enough to know what scenarios that indestructible can come in handy.

The indestructible is up for a solid amount. The only thing the dupe does is give her a slight chance to duplicate a debuff, plus a slight fury boost. She is great without the dupe

I might be reading this incorrectly, but with the dupe doesn’t it reduce the haymaker cooldown even quicker since more debuffs are being applied?

Yeah but not at a consistent rate especially at low sig, so it doesnt really matter(at most itll save about 4 secs at max). Plus haymakers refresh pretty fast without dupe anyways.

FrostGiantLord

Silk

Silk definitely. She's a great attacker, with pretty good dps. Overall just a solid champ, while Titania needs a dupe to be really viable

TrongNov

Titania

FrostGiantLord said:

Silk definitely. She's a great attacker, with pretty good dps. Overall just a solid champ, while Titania needs a dupe to be really viable

You never play Titania then I guess. Her dupe isn't necessary like Void's dupe

captain_rogers

Titania

Polygon said:

Zuro said:

Polygon said:

captain_rogers said:

you can dex/block most sp1 and sp2, but there are only few champs who reliably tank multiple sp3 that too on demand.

But isnt the indestructible uptime not that long? I know it gets 50% extra duration from the dupe (on the sp3),but I havent played her enough to know what scenarios that indestructible can come in handy.

The indestructible is up for a solid amount. The only thing the dupe does is give her a slight chance to duplicate a debuff, plus a slight fury boost. She is great without the dupe

I might be reading this incorrectly, but with the dupe doesn’t it reduce the haymaker cooldown even quicker since more debuffs are being applied?

Yes but you don't need it.
The dupe is more useful to gain more furies, especially after the sp3, So it focuses more on damage.
Also the haymaker uptime is solid and you can activate it whenever you want, For instance if opponent is at 2 bars of power, you can avoid dashing and heavies, until he reaches three bars, and immediately heavy to tackle his specials. So if you have proper planning, you can use haymaker whenever you want.

SidDDragon

U honestly cant go wrong with either so just rankup the one who u like more

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@TrongNov @captain_rogers

How much does Titania actually benefit from or need the rank up? It seems like for BGs it can be important to have her ranked up as high as possible because if the heavies dont kill them you have to wait for the haymaker and build back up to the sp3 again

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Then again I guess you could say the same for Silk who relies on building to the sp2 for damage, however she’s also crit reliant on that sp2, whereas Titania doesnt have to worry about that. So Silk would need the r3 more in that case, but it could still benefit Titania from having to build back up to the sp3.

captain_rogers

Titania

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@TrongNov @captain_rogers

How much does Titania actually benefit from or need the rank up? It seems like for BGs it can be important to have her ranked up as high as possible because if the heavies dont kill them you have to wait for the haymaker and build back up to the sp3 again

The issue with titania is bgs is, if you don't run max despair, The opponent heals like no tomorrow from Titania's debuff, especially after sp3. So if you run max despair, You can keep titania at r2.
Also remember titania is tanky so you can use her as staller in defense.

I don't have silk so can't comment about her, But I think she's the first r3 in mcoc, So there must be a reason for that.

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captain_rogers said:

Polygon said:

@TrongNov @captain_rogers

How much does Titania actually benefit from or need the rank up? It seems like for BGs it can be important to have her ranked up as high as possible because if the heavies dont kill them you have to wait for the haymaker and build back up to the sp3 again

The issue with titania is bgs is, if you don't run max despair, The opponent heals like no tomorrow from Titania's debuff, especially after sp3. So if you run max despair, You can keep titania at r2.
Also remember titania is tanky so you can use her as staller in defense.

I don't have silk so can't comment about her, But I think she's the first r3 in mcoc, So there must be a reason for that.

I always have despair maxed, plus I run max inequity on top of it so I like debuffs. I can see a bigger issue being if you push them to sp3 during haymaker and they wait it out for your indestructible to end before throwing their sp3. Or another scenario if they throw their sp1 while youre heavy spamming in corner after your sp3