WoW still 10 energy a quest..why?

Toproller89

Hello summoners,

I login today to check out the new WoW fight and noticed it's still 5 energy per step, why? Has Kabam listened to absolutely none of the summoners concerns over the last week or two, or is it yet another aspect of the game that has been thrown in the "too hard basket"?

Not impressed, Kabam.

Demonzfyre

They said they're not changing the energy. How much have you used so far for this one?

Wicket329

Toproller89 said:

Hello summoners,

I login today to check out the new WoW fight and noticed it's still 5 energy per step, why? Has Kabam listened to absolutely none of the summoners concerns over the last week or two, or is it yet another aspect of the game that has been thrown in the "too hard basket"?

Not impressed, Kabam.

They said they wanted to collect more data on fights that weren’t as difficult as Abs Man so that they could get a feel for how much it was actually costing players to do the content.

I would not expect the energy cost to change any time soon.

Toproller89

30 so far, still figuring out the fight, I might wait until someone finds the best strategy and copy that if I have the right champs

Folkvangr

Toproller89 said:

30 so far, still figuring out the fight, I might wait until someone finds the best strategy and copy that if I have the right champs

Seems like killmonger and angela are some of the best counters
I think that it is also possible to solo it with Wong, but you have to play a lot more carefully and keep up your charges

Demonzfyre

Toproller89 said:

30 so far, still figuring out the fight, I might wait until someone finds the best strategy and copy that if I have the right champs

There's a giant thread on counters and already some youtube videos out there.

Wicket329

I did it a run with Surfer and finished with a full yellow bar. Almost got the Odin solo as well, but got parried right at the end which transferred 20 shocks onto me, killing me pretty much instantly. Decided to just revive and get the last 10%

SaltE_Wenis69

i did howard and scorp so far and its been super easy

Sw0rdMaster

Fights are alot more easier this time, so 10 energy is fine if they keep it at this level. Just need to use the right counters, watch since videos and you'll get thru it.

Siliyo

Wicket329 said:

Toproller89 said:

Hello summoners,

I login today to check out the new WoW fight and noticed it's still 5 energy per step, why? Has Kabam listened to absolutely none of the summoners concerns over the last week or two, or is it yet another aspect of the game that has been thrown in the "too hard basket"?

Not impressed, Kabam.

They said they wanted to collect more data on fights that weren’t as difficult as Abs Man so that they could get a feel for how much it was actually costing players to do the content.

I would not expect the energy cost to change any time soon.

But won’t the data be compromised? Before because of the zero energy cost, you can go in and try as much as you’d like: see what works, see what doesn’t work. Then if you’re really having a hard time, you’d turn to YouTube to see what is best.

Now the best thing to do, in order to save energy, would be to wait for YouTube videos first before trying anything. It seems counterintuitive.

Toproller89

Ok so got through it with Angela, 5 star with 2 revives because I messed up after an sp3 and ate a combo. Even left suicides on, way better than Abs.

70 energy down, lol. It's a pain but is what it is I guess.

Karatemike415

Siliyo said:

Wicket329 said:

Toproller89 said:

Hello summoners,

I login today to check out the new WoW fight and noticed it's still 5 energy per step, why? Has Kabam listened to absolutely none of the summoners concerns over the last week or two, or is it yet another aspect of the game that has been thrown in the "too hard basket"?

Not impressed, Kabam.

They said they wanted to collect more data on fights that weren’t as difficult as Abs Man so that they could get a feel for how much it was actually costing players to do the content.

I would not expect the energy cost to change any time soon.

But won’t the data be compromised? Before because of the zero energy cost, you can go in and try as much as you’d like: see what works, see what doesn’t work. Then if you’re really having a hard time, you’d turn to YouTube to see what is best.

Now the best thing to do, in order to save energy, would be to wait for YouTube videos first before trying anything. It seems counterintuitive.

What would be compromised here? This scenario would show that nobody is playing the content themselves until they're shown what to do (which is lame, imo), showing that the high energy cost isn't exactly great.

BringPopcorn

Karatemike415 said:

Siliyo said:

Wicket329 said:

Toproller89 said:

Hello summoners,

I login today to check out the new WoW fight and noticed it's still 5 energy per step, why? Has Kabam listened to absolutely none of the summoners concerns over the last week or two, or is it yet another aspect of the game that has been thrown in the "too hard basket"?

Not impressed, Kabam.

They said they wanted to collect more data on fights that weren’t as difficult as Abs Man so that they could get a feel for how much it was actually costing players to do the content.

I would not expect the energy cost to change any time soon.

But won’t the data be compromised? Before because of the zero energy cost, you can go in and try as much as you’d like: see what works, see what doesn’t work. Then if you’re really having a hard time, you’d turn to YouTube to see what is best.

Now the best thing to do, in order to save energy, would be to wait for YouTube videos first before trying anything. It seems counterintuitive.

What would be compromised here? This scenario would show that nobody is playing the content themselves until they're shown what to do (which is lame, imo), showing that the high energy cost isn't exactly great.

Isn't that the bread and butter of most mcoc YTs?....

Folkvangr

Karatemike415 said:

Siliyo said:

Wicket329 said:

Toproller89 said:

Hello summoners,

I login today to check out the new WoW fight and noticed it's still 5 energy per step, why? Has Kabam listened to absolutely none of the summoners concerns over the last week or two, or is it yet another aspect of the game that has been thrown in the "too hard basket"?

Not impressed, Kabam.

They said they wanted to collect more data on fights that weren’t as difficult as Abs Man so that they could get a feel for how much it was actually costing players to do the content.

I would not expect the energy cost to change any time soon.

But won’t the data be compromised? Before because of the zero energy cost, you can go in and try as much as you’d like: see what works, see what doesn’t work. Then if you’re really having a hard time, you’d turn to YouTube to see what is best.

Now the best thing to do, in order to save energy, would be to wait for YouTube videos first before trying anything. It seems counterintuitive.

What would be compromised here? This scenario would show that nobody is playing the content themselves until they're shown what to do (which is lame, imo), showing that the high energy cost isn't exactly great.

Not everyone has enough resources (revives, energy, etc) to keep throwing at it until they learn what to do
Pretty bold of you to call it lame, since that’s the reason a lot of people follow and see content creators

Thecurler

Some of you guys should learn how to read.

He didn’t say watching YouTube videos for help was lame… he said not even attempting the content before being shown what to do was lame.

Big difference.

BringPopcorn

Thecurler said:

Some of you guys should learn how to read.

He didn’t say watching YouTube videos for help was lame… he said not even attempting the content before being shown what to do was lame.

Big difference.

So if i watch a vid that tells me what to do and how to do it, i am being lame?...

Sw0rdMaster

Karatemike415 said:

Siliyo said:

Wicket329 said:

Toproller89 said:

Hello summoners,

I login today to check out the new WoW fight and noticed it's still 5 energy per step, why? Has Kabam listened to absolutely none of the summoners concerns over the last week or two, or is it yet another aspect of the game that has been thrown in the "too hard basket"?

Not impressed, Kabam.

They said they wanted to collect more data on fights that weren’t as difficult as Abs Man so that they could get a feel for how much it was actually costing players to do the content.

I would not expect the energy cost to change any time soon.

But won’t the data be compromised? Before because of the zero energy cost, you can go in and try as much as you’d like: see what works, see what doesn’t work. Then if you’re really having a hard time, you’d turn to YouTube to see what is best.

Now the best thing to do, in order to save energy, would be to wait for YouTube videos first before trying anything. It seems counterintuitive.

What would be compromised here? This scenario would show that nobody is playing the content themselves until they're shown what to do (which is lame, imo), showing that the high energy cost isn't exactly great.

Hmm i like to watch your YT videos and see how you do some fights. You need to stop posting them, so nobody is lame ... 🤔

Wicket329

BringPopcorn said:

Thecurler said:

Some of you guys should learn how to read.

He didn’t say watching YouTube videos for help was lame… he said not even attempting the content before being shown what to do was lame.

Big difference.

So if i watch a vid that tells me what to do and how to do it, i am being lame?...

Maybe I’m misreading, but to me that comment came off as the situation of it now not making sense to go in before seeing others do it first being lame, not the players who are in it.

Thecurler

BringPopcorn said:

Thecurler said:

Some of you guys should learn how to read.

He didn’t say watching YouTube videos for help was lame… he said not even attempting the content before being shown what to do was lame.

Big difference.

So if i watch a vid that tells me what to do and how to do it, i am being lame?...

If you didn’t try the fight and attempt to work it out by yourself, yes. I’d say lazy too.

If you attempt the fight, can’t figure it out, so go on YouTube for some help, then no, that isn’t lame at all.

Vanitelia

What @Karatemike415 said is right. Where's the fun in watching someone solve a puzzle before taking a crack at it yourself or going straight for the GameGenie when you buy a brand new game.

As for the data being compromised, they are both good data points to have. We have 10 energy and a tough fight vs 10 energy and an easier one. Seems like a good opportunity to compare results there.

BringPopcorn

Wicket329 said:

BringPopcorn said:

Thecurler said:

Some of you guys should learn how to read.

He didn’t say watching YouTube videos for help was lame… he said not even attempting the content before being shown what to do was lame.

Big difference.

So if i watch a vid that tells me what to do and how to do it, i am being lame?...

Maybe I’m misreading, but to me that comment came off as the situation of it now not making sense to go in before seeing others do it first being lame, not the players who are in it.

Yeah I guess I can see what you mean .. its just weird..
I guess I can see your understanding saying that high energy cost is lame and unnecessary since most people don't go do the content until someone else does...

Wicket329

Siliyo said:

Wicket329 said:

Toproller89 said:

Hello summoners,

I login today to check out the new WoW fight and noticed it's still 5 energy per step, why? Has Kabam listened to absolutely none of the summoners concerns over the last week or two, or is it yet another aspect of the game that has been thrown in the "too hard basket"?

Not impressed, Kabam.

They said they wanted to collect more data on fights that weren’t as difficult as Abs Man so that they could get a feel for how much it was actually costing players to do the content.

I would not expect the energy cost to change any time soon.

But won’t the data be compromised? Before because of the zero energy cost, you can go in and try as much as you’d like: see what works, see what doesn’t work. Then if you’re really having a hard time, you’d turn to YouTube to see what is best.

Now the best thing to do, in order to save energy, would be to wait for YouTube videos first before trying anything. It seems counterintuitive.

The comparison isn’t to pre-energy cost and post. It’s Abs Man to Nebula. They’re trying to see how much energy it costs players on average. Abs Man is likely to have been a high end outlier and this Nebula is likely to be a low end outlier. I imagine they will want more data before making any decisions.

GroundedWisdom

Karatemike415 said:

Siliyo said:

Wicket329 said:

Toproller89 said:

Hello summoners,

I login today to check out the new WoW fight and noticed it's still 5 energy per step, why? Has Kabam listened to absolutely none of the summoners concerns over the last week or two, or is it yet another aspect of the game that has been thrown in the "too hard basket"?

Not impressed, Kabam.

They said they wanted to collect more data on fights that weren’t as difficult as Abs Man so that they could get a feel for how much it was actually costing players to do the content.

I would not expect the energy cost to change any time soon.

But won’t the data be compromised? Before because of the zero energy cost, you can go in and try as much as you’d like: see what works, see what doesn’t work. Then if you’re really having a hard time, you’d turn to YouTube to see what is best.

Now the best thing to do, in order to save energy, would be to wait for YouTube videos first before trying anything. It seems counterintuitive.

What would be compromised here? This scenario would show that nobody is playing the content themselves until they're shown what to do (which is lame, imo), showing that the high energy cost isn't exactly great.

I'm afraid I'd have to disagree. It's prudent to wait and see what's more effective. I speak from experience. I've wasted more Resources and time jumping in and beating my head against a wall. There's nothing wrong with being reserved and saving yourself some frustration. We don't all need to be heroes.

BringPopcorn

Thecurler said:

BringPopcorn said:

Thecurler said:

Some of you guys should learn how to read.

He didn’t say watching YouTube videos for help was lame… he said not even attempting the content before being shown what to do was lame.

Big difference.

So if i watch a vid that tells me what to do and how to do it, i am being lame?...

If you didn’t try the fight and attempt to work it out by yourself, yes. I’d say lazy too.

If you attempt the fight, can’t figure it out, so go on YouTube for some help, then no, that isn’t lame at all.

Well wouldn't it make sense to lower the cost, so I can try more times?...Chances are with high energy cost, most people will go for a sure thing other than testing different stuff...

Karatemike415

Thecurler said:

Some of you guys should learn how to read.

He didn’t say watching YouTube videos for help was lame… he said not even attempting the content before being shown what to do was lame.

Big difference.

Thank you lmaoooo

Devs want their players to play their game - not avoid playing their game because they need to save energy.

There's obviously nothing wrong with using a guide, but if it becomes "smarter" to "save energy" opposed to playing the game due to high cost, that design setup is lame.

Thecurler

BringPopcorn said:

Thecurler said:

BringPopcorn said:

Thecurler said:

Some of you guys should learn how to read.

He didn’t say watching YouTube videos for help was lame… he said not even attempting the content before being shown what to do was lame.

Big difference.

So if i watch a vid that tells me what to do and how to do it, i am being lame?...

If you didn’t try the fight and attempt to work it out by yourself, yes. I’d say lazy too.

If you attempt the fight, can’t figure it out, so go on YouTube for some help, then no, that isn’t lame at all.

Well wouldn't it make sense to lower the cost, so I can try more times?...Chances are with high energy cost, most people will go for a sure thing other than testing different stuff...

Imo the energy cost is far too much.
It doesn’t make any sense to me why they made it so expensive this time around.

Karatemike415

Wicket329 said:

BringPopcorn said:

Thecurler said:

Some of you guys should learn how to read.

He didn’t say watching YouTube videos for help was lame… he said not even attempting the content before being shown what to do was lame.

Big difference.

So if i watch a vid that tells me what to do and how to do it, i am being lame?...

Maybe I’m misreading, but to me that comment came off as the situation of it now not making sense to go in before seeing others do it first being lame, not the players who are in it.

👆🏻

Folkvangr

Thecurler said:

Some of you guys should learn how to read.

He didn’t say watching YouTube videos for help was lame… he said not even attempting the content before being shown what to do was lame.

Big difference.

My point remains
I have zero doubts that the people that watch his content (not everyone of course) see his videos before attempting the challenges, so he’s calling what they do lame

Karatemike415

Folkvangr said:

Thecurler said:

Some of you guys should learn how to read.

He didn’t say watching YouTube videos for help was lame… he said not even attempting the content before being shown what to do was lame.

Big difference.

My point remains
I have zero doubts that the people that watch his content (not everyone of course) see his videos before attempting the challenges, so he’s calling what they do lame

I'm literally calling the energy cost lame, but sure 🤙🏻

BringPopcorn

Thecurler said:

BringPopcorn said:

Thecurler said:

BringPopcorn said:

Thecurler said:

Some of you guys should learn how to read.

He didn’t say watching YouTube videos for help was lame… he said not even attempting the content before being shown what to do was lame.

Big difference.

So if i watch a vid that tells me what to do and how to do it, i am being lame?...

If you didn’t try the fight and attempt to work it out by yourself, yes. I’d say lazy too.

If you attempt the fight, can’t figure it out, so go on YouTube for some help, then no, that isn’t lame at all.

Well wouldn't it make sense to lower the cost, so I can try more times?...Chances are with high energy cost, most people will go for a sure thing other than testing different stuff...

Imo the energy cost is far too much.
It doesn’t make any sense to me why they made it so expensive this time around.

That is the main topic of this thread...
I honestly think the energy is lame, im not going to try all my options just to burn energy...
I will wait.. see who got a good KO using what, and then go in myself...
Seen 2 vids for M / Burst... Tried 1.. 4 times I sucked at it.. tried the 2nd 2 times got it done..
I guess we are forced now to look at the solved puzzle instead of choosing our own adventure...

Siliyo

Karatemike415 said:

Siliyo said:

Wicket329 said:

Toproller89 said:

Hello summoners,

I login today to check out the new WoW fight and noticed it's still 5 energy per step, why? Has Kabam listened to absolutely none of the summoners concerns over the last week or two, or is it yet another aspect of the game that has been thrown in the "too hard basket"?

Not impressed, Kabam.

They said they wanted to collect more data on fights that weren’t as difficult as Abs Man so that they could get a feel for how much it was actually costing players to do the content.

I would not expect the energy cost to change any time soon.

But won’t the data be compromised? Before because of the zero energy cost, you can go in and try as much as you’d like: see what works, see what doesn’t work. Then if you’re really having a hard time, you’d turn to YouTube to see what is best.

Now the best thing to do, in order to save energy, would be to wait for YouTube videos first before trying anything. It seems counterintuitive.

What would be compromised here? This scenario would show that nobody is playing the content themselves until they're shown what to do (which is lame, imo), showing that the high energy cost isn't exactly great.

That’s what I meant. Not that it would be “compromised” but it’s going to have the opposite effect they intend (which you stated so well)