Bgs are so unfair

I know this topic has been brought up a lot, and yes I could just not play the mode if I complain about it, but come on. Look at who I face in plat. My highest champ is a r3 6*

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danielmath

You’re both in plat 2, why shouldn’t you match each other?

jj_jj_9

You’re both in plat 2, why shouldn’t you match each other?

Yea so if Usafa and my uncollected mini acount are both in bronze 1 why wouldn't we match each other?
Cmon man use your brain cells

Avnish

There should be some option on the forum to hide the posts you want so that you can't see them again and again.

Avnish

You’re both in plat 2, why shouldn’t you match each other?
Yea so if Usafa and my uncollected mini acount are both in bronze 1 why wouldn't we match each other?
Cmon man use your brain cells

Why not if only 2 player in bronze trying for matchmaking then Why can't they match. C'mon guys get it over with. Daily I see more than one crying post for bg. Even kabam never responded on that because they know logic behind matchmaking is fair..

BLANK_mw

it’s prolly the most fair they could make it, mb for bringing it up an complaining

DNA3000

I know this topic has been brought up a lot, and yes I could just not play the mode if I complain about it, but come on. Look at who I face in plat. My highest champ is a r3 6*

Yes, it is a bit unfair, deliberately so. But it is also far more rewarding than if it was fair.

Ideally, we wouldn’t all be bunched up together and facing each other. BG would be more like Alliance war. Yes, a brand new alliance starts at the bottom, and because of that they will need to climb up the ranks, destroying weaker alliances as they go, because the game doesn’t actually know how strong they are. But eventually, that alliance reaches the point where the competition is all similar to themselves. They reach their intrinsic tier. From that point on, they will tend to have something close to a 50/50 record, because they will be facing equally strong alliances. In the long run, they will tend, on average, to not go up much, and not go down much.

Imagine if Battlegrounds was like that. Every match fair, every match 50/50. And you’d be stuck in tier 10 forever. No rewards for promotion, because you would never promote. You’d just get some rewards for winning, and some rewards for ending the season where you were, and that’s it.

Instead, we don’t all start where we left off. We start lower, and we’re given the opportunity to promote upward as high as we can, and we get rewards for doing so. It only takes a few wins to promote in most VT tiers, and you cannot go downward once to reach a tier. Those rewards are yours to keep no matter what happens. That’s not what happens in the Gladiator Circuit. You could reach Celestial, but if you lose you could drop all the way back down to Gamma or Urdu. You can actually lose rewards. You don’t even have to lose. You could do nothing, and have other players overtake you. That’s what’s “fair” in a real competition.

The trade off is that because this opportunity is given to everyone, stronger players will match against weaker players at some point to progress higher. And weaker players will face them if they want to try to promote past them. You’re seeing those guys because the game doesn’t trap everyone - you included - into a permanent 50/50 hell hole.

If you are a weaker player, that’s just the situation you’re dealt. You can still get plenty of rewards from the every other day milestones. And you can still get lots of rewards from promotion, at least as far as you can go. Especially for progressing players those rewards are substantial. And you will get better over time, and more competitive, and eventually get higher up the ladder. And even in a single season, as the stronger players promote upwards, they will leave your tier and make it easier for you to advance. You just need patience, and determination. You have to be willing to lose, to have the opportunity to win more over time.

Other stronger players will advance on your back by beating you. That’s always going to be true. It’s true for me, and I’m Valiant. But you take what you can get, and use it to get better. If you can deal with the fact that to get those rewards, you have to face the stronger players who also want their share of those rewards, then Battlegrounds is for you. Nobody likes to lose, but in a sense you’re being paid to lose. Participation and VT rewards are there to help you get better over time, so you eventually lose less.

Your call.

danielmath

You’re both in plat 2, why shouldn’t you match each other?
Yea so if Usafa and my uncollected mini acount are both in bronze 1 why wouldn't we match each other?
Cmon man use your brain cells

Ya why not? You’re playing for the same rewards. Plus usafa is a scrub, ask anyone!

BLANK_mw

Yeah, this all makes sense it’s just so hard to keep going, when you pretty much only face people that are a lot better than you, but used ur advice and and was able to get promoted

thanks for the comment. @DNA3000

PT_99

Platinum is where Kabam leaves your hand and you must play on your own.
But this season many low ranked players have faced Valiants in bronze and silver lmao

DNA3000

Platinum is where Kabam leaves your hand and you must play on your own.
But this season many low ranked players have faced Valiants in bronze and silver lmao

I believe the match system never had a strict rule that said people match this way in Bronze and that way in Platinum. I believe the system contained preferences (i.e. weights) that strongly preferred close matches in Bronze, and reduced that preference until it was basically gone by P1. But before P1 the weights could have been weak enough for people to see essentially random matches by P2 or even lower, and conversely if the system can’t find close matches in Bronze it will look for wider matches to prevent people from getting stuck indefinitely. As there are likely fewer lower strength players in BG now than in earlier seasons, players are seeing wider matches in lower tiers than you would ordinarily expect.

GrO_ot78

The challenge is that strong accounts hang around in plat to farm points, ruining the experience for weaker accounts….and Kabam does little and nothing about it.

Start Valiants in Vib3, Paragons in D3, and TBs in Plat3...then 99% of all players' dissatisfaction with BG disappears.

But it also means that Valiants can't bully smaller accounts in the first week, so it will probably never happen...Kabam doesn't dare to cause discontent among their P2W base.

mmmbanyas

That’s actually not a scary/big roster at all. Good luck in P1, looking forward to that thread!

Gogi

PT_99

Platinum is where Kabam leaves your hand and you must play on your own.
But this season many low ranked players have faced Valiants in bronze and silver lmao
I believe the match system never had a strict rule that said people match this way in Bronze and that way in Platinum. I believe the system contained preferences (i.e. weights) that strongly preferred close matches in Bronze, and reduced that preference until it was basically gone by P1. But before P1 the weights could have been weak enough for people to see essentially random matches by P2 or even lower, and conversely if the system can’t find close matches in Bronze it will look for wider matches to prevent people from getting stuck indefinitely. As there are likely fewer lower strength players in BG now than in earlier seasons, players are seeing wider matches in lower tiers than you would ordinarily expect.

I see

AcidBurn404

Lol. Get used to it