Are we sleeping on Dealthless Guillotine?

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  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,570 ★★★★★
    https://youtu.be/WMKiYozL0zc?si=9uKNU0DNlzMytBPl

    So making short videos of deathless guilly everywhere i use her in war or bgs
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,456 ★★★★
    Yasir175 said:




    After duping her by clearing the objective, I'm really surprise at her new form! With sig ability she is literary 10 times better than before? What do you guys think?

    All your post is doing is reminding me that I should add CGR back to my deck.

    If I only have one spot in my deck, I'd choose CGR over Deathless Guillotine (setting the specific nodes aside).
  • ShashankGuptaShashankGupta Member Posts: 489 ★★
    edited March 25
    Bendy said:

    BeastDad said:

    The problem with her is, you need to get lucky. Everything is rng based with her, damage and healing once duped.

    That's why I like og Guillotine she has guaranteed way to deal damage using heavy attack and then special attacks to place massive bleed damage
    Thing with this way is for bgs its slow and requires high sig to fight bleed immunes and that doesnt have high physical resist due to ruptures if u have dup max sig whereas deathless is straight degen and no one is immune to degen plus as a 7 stat focus precision ive tested both my deathless and og guilly of playing normal and deathless is just way quicker due to bleed chance is 35% on crits like even if i went the heavy route she still be slower in bgs
    Can your deathless Guillotine defeat doom in bgs and wars because doom has massive crit resistance and can you show her damage in long fights like labyrinth of Legends
    Personally I am showing og Guillotine long Fight capabilities on my channel which I got very bad response from YouTube but still I will not lose hope and still showcase her more potential
    This is the playlists i created of og Guillotine in lol


    And this is the forum post where i post the link when I upload the video
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/362615/underrated-og-guillotine-solo-labyrinth-of-legends-bosses-thread#latest

  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,570 ★★★★★

    Bendy said:

    BeastDad said:

    The problem with her is, you need to get lucky. Everything is rng based with her, damage and healing once duped.

    That's why I like og Guillotine she has guaranteed way to deal damage using heavy attack and then special attacks to place massive bleed damage
    Thing with this way is for bgs its slow and requires high sig to fight bleed immunes and that doesnt have high physical resist due to ruptures if u have dup max sig whereas deathless is straight degen and no one is immune to degen plus as a 7 stat focus precision ive tested both my deathless and og guilly of playing normal and deathless is just way quicker due to bleed chance is 35% on crits like even if i went the heavy route she still be slower in bgs
    Can your deathless Guillotine defeat doom in bgs and wars because doom has massive crit resistance and can you show her damage in long fights like labyrinth of Legends
    Personally I am showing og Guillotine long Fight capabilities on my channel which I got very bad response from YouTube but still I will not lose hope and still showcase her more potential
    This is the playlists i created of og Guillotine in lol


    And this is the forum post where i post the link when I upload the video
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/362615/underrated-og-guillotine-solo-labyrinth-of-legends-bosses-thread#latest

    Why need doom when i silk him doom is terrible these days as a defender he gets shredded too quickly but ill record a lab sl fight
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,620 ★★★★★
    @bendy maybe in gc, my doom still stalls the fight for 90 seconds most of the time.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,570 ★★★★★

    @bendy maybe in gc, my doom still stalls the fight for 90 seconds most of the time.

    When i see dooms i just photon or silk as they dont get banned dont need ro run guilly as i know it be a stall but if she had a way to ignore crit resist id try but i need to test a practise fight first before bg to see if the stat focus lets her crit
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,570 ★★★★★

    Bendy said:

    BeastDad said:

    The problem with her is, you need to get lucky. Everything is rng based with her, damage and healing once duped.

    That's why I like og Guillotine she has guaranteed way to deal damage using heavy attack and then special attacks to place massive bleed damage
    Thing with this way is for bgs its slow and requires high sig to fight bleed immunes and that doesnt have high physical resist due to ruptures if u have dup max sig whereas deathless is straight degen and no one is immune to degen plus as a 7 stat focus precision ive tested both my deathless and og guilly of playing normal and deathless is just way quicker due to bleed chance is 35% on crits like even if i went the heavy route she still be slower in bgs
    Can your deathless Guillotine defeat doom in bgs and wars because doom has massive crit resistance and can you show her damage in long fights like labyrinth of Legends
    Personally I am showing og Guillotine long Fight capabilities on my channel which I got very bad response from YouTube but still I will not lose hope and still showcase her more potential
    This is the playlists i created of og Guillotine in lol


    And this is the forum post where i post the link when I upload the video
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/362615/underrated-og-guillotine-solo-labyrinth-of-legends-bosses-thread#latest

    https://youtu.be/12Skui9rBa0?si=5e5Gy8OeQsMuo3KO

    U should also compare more of non synergies
  • ShashankGuptaShashankGupta Member Posts: 489 ★★
    Bendy said:

    Bendy said:

    BeastDad said:

    The problem with her is, you need to get lucky. Everything is rng based with her, damage and healing once duped.

    That's why I like og Guillotine she has guaranteed way to deal damage using heavy attack and then special attacks to place massive bleed damage
    Thing with this way is for bgs its slow and requires high sig to fight bleed immunes and that doesnt have high physical resist due to ruptures if u have dup max sig whereas deathless is straight degen and no one is immune to degen plus as a 7 stat focus precision ive tested both my deathless and og guilly of playing normal and deathless is just way quicker due to bleed chance is 35% on crits like even if i went the heavy route she still be slower in bgs
    Can your deathless Guillotine defeat doom in bgs and wars because doom has massive crit resistance and can you show her damage in long fights like labyrinth of Legends
    Personally I am showing og Guillotine long Fight capabilities on my channel which I got very bad response from YouTube but still I will not lose hope and still showcase her more potential
    This is the playlists i created of og Guillotine in lol


    And this is the forum post where i post the link when I upload the video
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/362615/underrated-og-guillotine-solo-labyrinth-of-legends-bosses-thread#latest

    Curse
    https://youtu.be/12Skui9rBa0?si=5e5Gy8OeQsMuo3KO

    U should also compare more of non synergies
    Uh I will try without synergies as well but still my point is without crits deathless Guillotine is useless whereas og Guillotine has bleed curse to inflict damage I am not talking about time I am talking about utility
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,570 ★★★★★
    edited March 25

    Bendy said:

    Bendy said:

    BeastDad said:

    The problem with her is, you need to get lucky. Everything is rng based with her, damage and healing once duped.

    That's why I like og Guillotine she has guaranteed way to deal damage using heavy attack and then special attacks to place massive bleed damage
    Thing with this way is for bgs its slow and requires high sig to fight bleed immunes and that doesnt have high physical resist due to ruptures if u have dup max sig whereas deathless is straight degen and no one is immune to degen plus as a 7 stat focus precision ive tested both my deathless and og guilly of playing normal and deathless is just way quicker due to bleed chance is 35% on crits like even if i went the heavy route she still be slower in bgs
    Can your deathless Guillotine defeat doom in bgs and wars because doom has massive crit resistance and can you show her damage in long fights like labyrinth of Legends
    Personally I am showing og Guillotine long Fight capabilities on my channel which I got very bad response from YouTube but still I will not lose hope and still showcase her more potential
    This is the playlists i created of og Guillotine in lol


    And this is the forum post where i post the link when I upload the video
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/362615/underrated-og-guillotine-solo-labyrinth-of-legends-bosses-thread#latest

    Curse
    https://youtu.be/12Skui9rBa0?si=5e5Gy8OeQsMuo3KO

    U should also compare more of non synergies
    Uh I will try without synergies as well but still my point is without crits deathless Guillotine is useless whereas og Guillotine has bleed curse to inflict damage I am not talking about time I am talking about utility
    U cant compare utility when deathless is pre guillotine buff also the utility is she uses degen over bleed/rupture which benefits more for her to work better on physical resist champs if she was new guilly kit she would still be way better


    Edit also i went through some lol fights to do the ms marvel fight


  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,570 ★★★★★

    Bendy said:

    BeastDad said:

    The problem with her is, you need to get lucky. Everything is rng based with her, damage and healing once duped.

    That's why I like og Guillotine she has guaranteed way to deal damage using heavy attack and then special attacks to place massive bleed damage
    Thing with this way is for bgs its slow and requires high sig to fight bleed immunes and that doesnt have high physical resist due to ruptures if u have dup max sig whereas deathless is straight degen and no one is immune to degen plus as a 7 stat focus precision ive tested both my deathless and og guilly of playing normal and deathless is just way quicker due to bleed chance is 35% on crits like even if i went the heavy route she still be slower in bgs
    Can your deathless Guillotine defeat doom in bgs and wars because doom has massive crit resistance and can you show her damage in long fights like labyrinth of Legends
    Personally I am showing og Guillotine long Fight capabilities on my channel which I got very bad response from YouTube but still I will not lose hope and still showcase her more potential
    This is the playlists i created of og Guillotine in lol


    And this is the forum post where i post the link when I upload the video
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/362615/underrated-og-guillotine-solo-labyrinth-of-legends-bosses-thread#latest

    Also do like ur posting vids of guilly as i think both deathless and og are underrated as hell and get hate due to in mystic class she doesnt have nullify or much mystical abilities for me ever since getting hands on deathless ive enjoyed her more than her buffed version mainly the curse side regen side is awesome but curse i prefer if she was able to do it differently but still love her how she is also with deathless we dont even know if she will get a synergy yet for utility who knows also maybe she can hit rebalance as jj was in a rebalance and wasnt touched yet she was exclusive so maybe deathless can also
  • ShashankGuptaShashankGupta Member Posts: 489 ★★
    Bendy said:

    Bendy said:

    BeastDad said:

    The problem with her is, you need to get lucky. Everything is rng based with her, damage and healing once duped.

    That's why I like og Guillotine she has guaranteed way to deal damage using heavy attack and then special attacks to place massive bleed damage
    Thing with this way is for bgs its slow and requires high sig to fight bleed immunes and that doesnt have high physical resist due to ruptures if u have dup max sig whereas deathless is straight degen and no one is immune to degen plus as a 7 stat focus precision ive tested both my deathless and og guilly of playing normal and deathless is just way quicker due to bleed chance is 35% on crits like even if i went the heavy route she still be slower in bgs
    Can your deathless Guillotine defeat doom in bgs and wars because doom has massive crit resistance and can you show her damage in long fights like labyrinth of Legends
    Personally I am showing og Guillotine long Fight capabilities on my channel which I got very bad response from YouTube but still I will not lose hope and still showcase her more potential
    This is the playlists i created of og Guillotine in lol


    And this is the forum post where i post the link when I upload the video
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/362615/underrated-og-guillotine-solo-labyrinth-of-legends-bosses-thread#latest

    Also do like ur posting vids of guilly as i think both deathless and og are underrated as hell and get hate due to in mystic class she doesnt have nullify or much mystical abilities for me ever since getting hands on deathless ive enjoyed her more than her buffed version mainly the curse side regen side is awesome but curse i prefer if she was able to do it differently but still love her how she is also with deathless we dont even know if she will get a synergy yet for utility who knows also maybe she can hit rebalance as jj was in a rebalance and wasnt touched yet she was exclusive so maybe deathless can also
    Maybe I am getting to biased on og Guillotine but kabam has just ruined my expectations for the deathless Champs they have the perfect opportunity to make og Guillotine a perfect 7 Star deathless Champs but doing some changes mainly

    Increase the curse debuff duration from 10 sec to 15 sec
    And heavy attacks inflict 1 additional curse debuff if Guillotine has more than 5 soul charges
    After getting 10 soul charges Guillotine gains a non stacking precision passive for the duration she has 10 soul charges on her
    Also I would still prefer bleed debuff instead of degeneration to get benifit of deep wounds mastery and would add that degeneration ability in hee sig ability as whenever opponent is immune to bleed she inflict degeneration with sig1- 40% chance to sig 200-100% chance
    Also I will add a permanent vicious passive after sp3
    And I will add a clause to sp1 pain link ability that potency of her Regen is increased by 10% with each pain link debuff(Max 2 stacks) on the opponent to a maximum heal increase of 20%

    But because with this kit she can get soul charges quickly so I will never add that 2% damage on sp3 for each soul charges

    If deathless or even og Guillotine would have gotten this kit both Champs would have become everyone favourite
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 2,107 ★★★★★
    No doubt that she's a decent champ, but no way I'm taking her up over alot of the 7* mystics available.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,570 ★★★★★

    Bendy said:

    Bendy said:

    BeastDad said:

    The problem with her is, you need to get lucky. Everything is rng based with her, damage and healing once duped.

    That's why I like og Guillotine she has guaranteed way to deal damage using heavy attack and then special attacks to place massive bleed damage
    Thing with this way is for bgs its slow and requires high sig to fight bleed immunes and that doesnt have high physical resist due to ruptures if u have dup max sig whereas deathless is straight degen and no one is immune to degen plus as a 7 stat focus precision ive tested both my deathless and og guilly of playing normal and deathless is just way quicker due to bleed chance is 35% on crits like even if i went the heavy route she still be slower in bgs
    Can your deathless Guillotine defeat doom in bgs and wars because doom has massive crit resistance and can you show her damage in long fights like labyrinth of Legends
    Personally I am showing og Guillotine long Fight capabilities on my channel which I got very bad response from YouTube but still I will not lose hope and still showcase her more potential
    This is the playlists i created of og Guillotine in lol


    And this is the forum post where i post the link when I upload the video
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/362615/underrated-og-guillotine-solo-labyrinth-of-legends-bosses-thread#latest

    Also do like ur posting vids of guilly as i think both deathless and og are underrated as hell and get hate due to in mystic class she doesnt have nullify or much mystical abilities for me ever since getting hands on deathless ive enjoyed her more than her buffed version mainly the curse side regen side is awesome but curse i prefer if she was able to do it differently but still love her how she is also with deathless we dont even know if she will get a synergy yet for utility who knows also maybe she can hit rebalance as jj was in a rebalance and wasnt touched yet she was exclusive so maybe deathless can also
    Maybe I am getting to biased on og Guillotine but kabam has just ruined my expectations for the deathless Champs they have the perfect opportunity to make og Guillotine a perfect 7 Star deathless Champs but doing some changes mainly

    Increase the curse debuff duration from 10 sec to 15 sec
    And heavy attacks inflict 1 additional curse debuff if Guillotine has more than 5 soul charges
    After getting 10 soul charges Guillotine gains a non stacking precision passive for the duration she has 10 soul charges on her
    Also I would still prefer bleed debuff instead of degeneration to get benifit of deep wounds mastery and would add that degeneration ability in hee sig ability as whenever opponent is immune to bleed she inflict degeneration with sig1- 40% chance to sig 200-100% chance
    Also I will add a permanent vicious passive after sp3
    And I will add a clause to sp1 pain link ability that potency of her Regen is increased by 10% with each pain link debuff(Max 2 stacks) on the opponent to a maximum heal increase of 20%

    But because with this kit she can get soul charges quickly so I will never add that 2% damage on sp3 for each soul charges

    If deathless or even og Guillotine would have gotten this kit both Champs would have become everyone favourite
    For me its the fact heavy only gains 1 so u just waste so much time getting curse active and no vicious bleed degen wouldnt care as down line they could always make a mastery for degen but before that poison shock incinerate and coldsnap should get a mastery to increase duration first since have been out longer, id say curse needs a double duration so 20 seconds as ai specials pain link needs to defo do more than just if u have a dot u damage them also its kinda useless maybe sp1 should be how u get vicious that be cool but i doubt og guilly will get a buff and have to see if deathless also has a chance for rebalance
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