And for Onslaught CGR works provided you do enough damage on time I did fave Onslaught 6 star rank 6l5 destroyed him with 2 sp2
No he won't, cgr lose a lot of health as he can't remove the neuroshocks.
CGR can work, but its kinda an RNG fiesta. You’re basically saying “Yeah I’m gonna take Neuro damage and hate it, but hopefully I kill you so fast it doesn’t even matter”
Kinda like fighting Ibom with a nuke champ who isnt immune to poisons.
Ain't no way people are saying Onslaught worse than Bullseye on defense lol as long as you don't block his sp1 you won't get enough neuros on you to lose a meaningful amount of health. Not even close to the damage Bullseye deals through block even with bleed immune.
I can defeat bullseye with a champ at 100% health, without AAR or regen. Can you do the same with Onslaught? You are going to take damage no matter what, he should be nerfed
Yes I can. You can't? Onslaught doesn't even need a counter in the first place, even with champs who crit if you're dashing back and light intercepting constantly you can mitigate most of the damage and if you can dex his sp1 you can finish with a full bar indeed. Bullseye on the other hand is just an insta loss if you don't have bleed immune and even with bleed immune his specials still crti through block so I find it hard to believe you finish with 100% health against him all the time like you say.
By 100% I meant like above 90% health. I believe shocker is a non metal champ+you have good skills. Still I won't accept "onslaught don't need a counter".
Atleast there are champs who counter bullseye. Like direct counters, like iceman, emma and the new prowler. Also any bleed immune works if Ai cooperates. He is definitely pain in the *** but there are direct counters who shut him down.
But onslaught, no one is immune to his damage, it's all rng when you get inflicted with his dot (neuroshock is what it's called right), no one is immune to it. Onslaught is also psuedo immine to bleed, shock and incenerate, and he shuts down most techs as they are metal champs, and can't purify his debuffs.
But let me tell you one thing I'm sure of, if onslaught don't get a nerf in defense, bullseye definitely won't get one neither. Both are equally worse if not more worse.
I usually ban both of them but I've fight bullseye twice in bgs, and won both times with archangel at 90% health. Fought onslaught like 10 times, use various champs, but never won against him above 50% health. I can dex his specials as well.
Idk what I'm doing wrong against him.
Iceman is not that crazy of a counter actually, I have already used him against Bullseye and I still ended up losing 20% health from block damage alone because of the guaranteed crits even on block not to mention very slow fight. This was a 7* Bullseye of course but my Iceman is r5 so the block damage is still ridiculous. As for Prowler, we don't know how good he will be yet so I wouldn't say he will be a great counter until he is actually out.
You don't need neuroshock immune for Onslaught, you just need to be dashing back constantly. The neuro damage isn't meaningful until you get 6 stacks or more, if you're constantly purifying them you have nothing to worry about you don't need immunities to play around the neuros just need to purify them.
Again, Onslaught can be countered with skills, Bullseye can't. If you can dex his specials and you're losing that much health then that means you aren't purifying the neuros like you should be. You saw the Shocker fight I posted? Sure no crits means less neuros but it was still a long fight because I was purifying them and in the end I only lost 4% health. Bullseye is worse than Onslaught on defense, just because a few mutants can nuke him down doesn't mean he's easier than Onslaught. Onslaught doesn't need counters with proper gameplay, Bullseye does regardless of gameplay.
Ain't no way people are saying Onslaught worse than Bullseye on defense lol as long as you don't block his sp1 you won't get enough neuros on you to lose a meaningful amount of health. Not even close to the damage Bullseye deals through block even with bleed immune.
I can defeat bullseye with a champ at 100% health, without AAR or regen. Can you do the same with Onslaught? You are going to take damage no matter what, he should be nerfed
Yes I can. You can't? Onslaught doesn't even need a counter in the first place, even with champs who crit if you're dashing back and light intercepting constantly you can mitigate most of the damage and if you can dex his sp1 you can finish with a full bar indeed. Bullseye on the other hand is just an insta loss if you don't have bleed immune and even with bleed immune his specials still crti through block so I find it hard to believe you finish with 100% health against him all the time like you say.
By 100% I meant like above 90% health. I believe shocker is a non metal champ+you have good skills. Still I won't accept "onslaught don't need a counter".
Atleast there are champs who counter bullseye. Like direct counters, like iceman, emma and the new prowler. Also any bleed immune works if Ai cooperates. He is definitely pain in the *** but there are direct counters who shut him down.
But onslaught, no one is immune to his damage, it's all rng when you get inflicted with his dot (neuroshock is what it's called right), no one is immune to it. Onslaught is also psuedo immine to bleed, shock and incenerate, and he shuts down most techs as they are metal champs, and can't purify his debuffs.
But let me tell you one thing I'm sure of, if onslaught don't get a nerf in defense, bullseye definitely won't get one neither. Both are equally worse if not more worse.
I usually ban both of them but I've fight bullseye twice in bgs, and won both times with archangel at 90% health. Fought onslaught like 10 times, use various champs, but never won against him above 50% health. I can dex his specials as well.
Idk what I'm doing wrong against him.
Iceman is not that crazy of a counter actually, I have already used him against Bullseye and I still ended up losing 20% health from block damage alone because of the guaranteed crits even on block not to mention very slow fight. This was a 7* Bullseye of course but my Iceman is r5 so the block damage is still ridiculous. As for Prowler, we don't know how good he will be yet so I wouldn't say he will be a great counter until he is actually out.
You don't need neuroshock immune for Onslaught, you just need to be dashing back constantly. The neuro damage isn't meaningful until you get 6 stacks or more, if you're constantly purifying them you have nothing to worry about you don't need immunities to play around the neuros just need to purify them.
Again, Onslaught can be countered with skills, Bullseye can't. If you can dex his specials and you're losing that much health then that means you aren't purifying the neuros like you should be. You saw the Shocker fight I posted? Sure no crits means less neuros but it was still a long fight because I was purifying them and in the end I only lost 4% health. Bullseye is worse than Onslaught on defense, just because a few mutants can nuke him down doesn't mean he's easier than Onslaught. Onslaught doesn't need counters with proper gameplay, Bullseye does regardless of gameplay.
Even Havok can nuke down Onslaught. The neuroshocks, since they deal energy damage, fuels Havok's charges which leads to a lot of plasma detonations. Bishop could work as well since he has massive energy resistance
I’d love to see Dani’s kit fixed so skill champs can’t bypass her slow or falter… she’s would be a pretty great bullseye option with that one little fix that was ignored during her haphazard “buff” which really did a whole bunch of nothing
For a while I'm not sure why they did that. Skill champs are supposed to have a disadvantage against Dani, not an advantage
Ain't no way people are saying Onslaught worse than Bullseye on defense lol as long as you don't block his sp1 you won't get enough neuros on you to lose a meaningful amount of health. Not even close to the damage Bullseye deals through block even with bleed immune.
I can defeat bullseye with a champ at 100% health, without AAR or regen. Can you do the same with Onslaught? You are going to take damage no matter what, he should be nerfed
Yes I can. You can't? Onslaught doesn't even need a counter in the first place, even with champs who crit if you're dashing back and light intercepting constantly you can mitigate most of the damage and if you can dex his sp1 you can finish with a full bar indeed. Bullseye on the other hand is just an insta loss if you don't have bleed immune and even with bleed immune his specials still crti through block so I find it hard to believe you finish with 100% health against him all the time like you say.
By 100% I meant like above 90% health. I believe shocker is a non metal champ+you have good skills. Still I won't accept "onslaught don't need a counter".
Atleast there are champs who counter bullseye. Like direct counters, like iceman, emma and the new prowler. Also any bleed immune works if Ai cooperates. He is definitely pain in the *** but there are direct counters who shut him down.
But onslaught, no one is immune to his damage, it's all rng when you get inflicted with his dot (neuroshock is what it's called right), no one is immune to it. Onslaught is also psuedo immine to bleed, shock and incenerate, and he shuts down most techs as they are metal champs, and can't purify his debuffs.
But let me tell you one thing I'm sure of, if onslaught don't get a nerf in defense, bullseye definitely won't get one neither. Both are equally worse if not more worse.
I usually ban both of them but I've fight bullseye twice in bgs, and won both times with archangel at 90% health. Fought onslaught like 10 times, use various champs, but never won against him above 50% health. I can dex his specials as well.
Idk what I'm doing wrong against him.
Iceman is not that crazy of a counter actually, I have already used him against Bullseye and I still ended up losing 20% health from block damage alone because of the guaranteed crits even on block not to mention very slow fight. This was a 7* Bullseye of course but my Iceman is r5 so the block damage is still ridiculous. As for Prowler, we don't know how good he will be yet so I wouldn't say he will be a great counter until he is actually out.
You don't need neuroshock immune for Onslaught, you just need to be dashing back constantly. The neuro damage isn't meaningful until you get 6 stacks or more, if you're constantly purifying them you have nothing to worry about you don't need immunities to play around the neuros just need to purify them.
Again, Onslaught can be countered with skills, Bullseye can't. If you can dex his specials and you're losing that much health then that means you aren't purifying the neuros like you should be. You saw the Shocker fight I posted? Sure no crits means less neuros but it was still a long fight because I was purifying them and in the end I only lost 4% health. Bullseye is worse than Onslaught on defense, just because a few mutants can nuke him down doesn't mean he's easier than Onslaught. Onslaught doesn't need counters with proper gameplay, Bullseye does regardless of gameplay.
Even Havok can nuke down Onslaught. The neuroshocks, since they deal energy damage, fuels Havok's charges which leads to a lot of plasma detonations. Bishop could work as well since he has massive energy resistance
Yeah Havok cheeses Onslaught extremely fast and because of the energy resistance he also barely takes damage. Bishop probably works too just slower cause he has to go for sp3s but with the massive energy resistance you pretty much don't have to worry about the neuros.
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Kinda like fighting Ibom with a nuke champ who isnt immune to poisons.
As for Prowler, we don't know how good he will be yet so I wouldn't say he will be a great counter until he is actually out.
You don't need neuroshock immune for Onslaught, you just need to be dashing back constantly. The neuro damage isn't meaningful until you get 6 stacks or more, if you're constantly purifying them you have nothing to worry about you don't need immunities to play around the neuros just need to purify them.
Again, Onslaught can be countered with skills, Bullseye can't. If you can dex his specials and you're losing that much health then that means you aren't purifying the neuros like you should be.
You saw the Shocker fight I posted? Sure no crits means less neuros but it was still a long fight because I was purifying them and in the end I only lost 4% health.
Bullseye is worse than Onslaught on defense, just because a few mutants can nuke him down doesn't mean he's easier than Onslaught.
Onslaught doesn't need counters with proper gameplay, Bullseye does regardless of gameplay.
Bishop probably works too just slower cause he has to go for sp3s but with the massive energy resistance you pretty much don't have to worry about the neuros.