AW Season 49
Matty_Ice
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Why would you blacklist one of the few tactic champions who can deal with hazard shift? 
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1. the champs you NEED are banned.
2. the champs you JUST RANKED are banned.
3. and by the time they're usable they're meta irrelevant, aka a complete waste of resources.
as a community, we use the words "cash grab" and "ripoff" a lot, mostly in situations that don't call for it (like offers), but this is what the blacklist actually feels like.
why do you do this to us?
Both Sections: Destroyer, Dragon Man, Kushala, Sauron, Black Widow CV, Havok, Colossus, Dust, White Tiger if there's lots of buffs, Emma Frost with enough practice.
Section 1 Specifically: Void, Toad, Werewolf By Night
Section 2 Specifically: Gambit, Man-Thing, Storm X, any of them with an Odin Pre-Fight
I get it, it sucks that a champion you invested in got blacklisted, but please don't try and push the agenda that there's only a few Hazard Shift tactic options. It just means you spend one of your phases building tactic prowess and the other dealing damage.
Edit: i mean next season not next month
kabam, if you're reading this please take this feedback seriously because the current system is a very frustrating loop of forced rankups and devaluation and it feels awful.
Still .. we did just fine without having him or Bishop. There are still viable attackers in the meta .. just gotta embrace the challenge.
Genuinely curious
The blacklist was created in more open tactics to get summoners to use different tactic attackers and stop relying on HT, Ghost, Quake, Kingpin, etc. While the white list was specifically created to let people use their HTs, Ghosts, Kingpins, and Hercules like attackers on a rotating basis. Over time this pivoted to the best tactic attackers also making it into the ban pool and when a tactic would span 3 seasons the white list also mattered more as bans moved to banning the best tactic attackers. Now the white list is an utter joke every other season.
In previous metas the interactions were more flexible and summoners could flex their rosters to address the problems as there was often good champs outside of the tactic options that could address the challenges… but now in the Magic Thief and Crush metas the design essentially requires us to use the tactic attack pool to deal with tactic defenders, it’s already very restrictive and the black list restricts it more, now our top 5 options are removed most wars and we will be stuck ranking champs we probably don’t even enjoy… especially when you feel forced to use it in the highest stress game mode. It doesn’t feel innovative, it feels punitive.
Here’s hoping this is a one off though and the meta design isn’t as restrictive next time and this matters less in the right ways.
It's less relevant in the first season, which is usually the learning period where people get to understand how the tactic works and who is good without having a blacklist that impacts the tactic pool, and the second season is tactic relevant bans after we as the players have gotten the opportunity to learn, rank up other options, and Kabam has tuned the tactic based on data and feedback from the first season.
Maybe Kabam needs to consider removing the blacklist/whitelist systems for tier 2 and below, or at the very least making more changes between tier 1 and below for how it functions, but the way it works for modern war at the top makes sense to me.
Kushala and Bishop had the highest ban rate at Elite tier, so therefore blacklist. Bishop and Iceman at Expert Tier and Iceman at Challenger Tier, same deal. These are not conspiracy theory, anti-player style decisions in the background. It has been and continues to be entirely based on what we the players choose to ban the most.