What are some unexpected counters to hard defenders?

EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,060 ★★★★★
in Strategy and Tips
So I was testing some stuff today and realised that buffed Luke Cage is actually a great counter to Killmonger. But how?

Luke Cage’s exhaustions can reverse Killmonger’s power gain he gets from debuffs, Sunder reduces Killmonger’s crit resistance to zero. You do need to play around reverb but Luke’s concussion can shut it down almost entirely

What about some other matchups you may not expect? Another is Photon vs Onslaught

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  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,060 ★★★★★
    I posted this in strategy and tips in case this may help someone out
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,020 ★★★★★
    Mojo against thing.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,060 ★★★★★
    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Sersi counters everything in the game and people haven’t realized it yet

    @Pikolu is this your doing?
    Was about to ask the same question
    @Pikolu
  • Ayden_noah1Ayden_noah1 Member Posts: 1,920 ★★★★
    Magneto against Maestro, one sp3 with 30 plus powress and he just melts. I didn't realize that the playable Maestro was metal till I had no choice but to use him against Maestro in BG.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,020 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    Sersi counters everything in the game and people haven’t realized it yet

    Fake ids in mcoc is wild ☠️
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,060 ★★★★★
    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Magneto against Maestro, one sp3 with 30 plus powress and he just melts. I didn't realize that the playable Maestro was metal till I had no choice but to use him against Maestro in BG.

    Yeah he’s metal unlike the Act 4 Maestro for some reason
  • PriyabrataPriyabrata Member Posts: 1,310 ★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Mojo against thing.

    Damn why didn't I think of that, it's seems so obvious
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,479 ★★★★★
    I’m actually not even kidding about the Sersi thing. She’s pretty much good for everything in battlegrounds

    I’ve taken a ton of meta relevant defenders with her in under 40 seconds even with bad crit rng (Onslaught, Bishop) and a crit on the last hit pretty much guarantees a 30 second ko on most champs. Haven’t tried her against Photon yet but I’m sure she can cook her too. Her glancing + regen is a lifesaver, I’ve taken full combos from champs and just bounced back to near full health
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,020 ★★★★★
    Priyabrata said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Mojo against thing.

    Damn why didn't I think of that, it's seems so obvious
    Not only mojo, any neutralize champs completely bakes him. Wiccan is my fav, after 15 stacks he can't activate unstoppable if neutralized, so it's just free incen/ruptures if you use tigra, wiccan or rintrah
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,060 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    I’m actually not even kidding about the Sersi thing. She’s pretty much good for everything in battlegrounds

    I’ve taken a ton of meta relevant defenders with her in under 40 seconds even with bad crit rng (Onslaught, Bishop) and a crit on the last hit pretty much guarantees a 30 second ko on most champs. Haven’t tried her against Photon yet but I’m sure she can cook her too. Her glancing + regen is a lifesaver, I’ve taken full combos from champs and just bounced back to near full health

    She’s also a bullseye counter as well.
  • MarvelNoobMarvelNoob Member Posts: 1,191 ★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Priyabrata said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Mojo against thing.

    Damn why didn't I think of that, it's seems so obvious
    Not only mojo, any neutralize champs completely bakes him. Wiccan is my fav, after 15 stacks he can't activate unstoppable if neutralized, so it's just free incen/ruptures if you use tigra, wiccan or rintrah
    Can confirm, tigra is my go to for thing
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,060 ★★★★★
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ContestOfChampions/s/qdRkVXuNMa
  • PriyabrataPriyabrata Member Posts: 1,310 ★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ContestOfChampions/s/qdRkVXuNMa

    Holy sheets I thought you were messing around
  • The_0wenpusThe_0wenpus Member Posts: 260 ★★
    Believe it or not, Kingpin against Apoc. Kingpin's purify shut down means he can ramp infinitely.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,060 ★★★★★
    The_0wenpus said:

    Believe it or not, Kingpin against Apoc. Kingpin's purify shut down means he can ramp infinitely.

    And at the same time Apoc is a really good Kingpin counter because of that and he can inflict his debuffs as well
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,060 ★★★★★
    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Magneto against Maestro, one sp3 with 30 plus powress and he just melts. I didn't realize that the playable Maestro was metal till I had no choice but to use him against Maestro in BG.

    Wait, I thought Maestro could glance the heavies from Magneto eventually
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Red Guardian for FAM, you're doing one hit heavy hits during most of the fight so once the first nano armor is gone you almost never have to worry about them and you can easily take him down in under 40 secs.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,020 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Red Guardian for FAM, you're doing one hit heavy hits during most of the fight so once the first nano armor is gone you almost never have to worry about them and you can easily take him down in under 40 secs.

    Ham is also a great FAM counter as well. Youre gonna launch very few hits with ham, so fewer chances to trigger Nano Armor buffs, and Power stings deal direct damage, ignoring armor nd resistances
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,060 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Red Guardian for FAM, you're doing one hit heavy hits during most of the fight so once the first nano armor is gone you almost never have to worry about them and you can easily take him down in under 40 secs.

    Have to try that, also changed your profile pic?
  • Ayden_noah1Ayden_noah1 Member Posts: 1,920 ★★★★
    edited April 18
    EdisonLaw said:

    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Magneto against Maestro, one sp3 with 30 plus powress and he just melts. I didn't realize that the playable Maestro was metal till I had no choice but to use him against Maestro in BG.

    Wait, I thought Maestro could glance the heavies from Magneto eventually
    When you launch a sp3, don't hit Maestro first. That's with any champ against a glancing mechanic champ like Maestro, use specials without hitting them to avoid glancing on specials.
  • PriyabrataPriyabrata Member Posts: 1,310 ★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Ayden_noah1 said:

    Magneto against Maestro, one sp3 with 30 plus powress and he just melts. I didn't realize that the playable Maestro was metal till I had no choice but to use him against Maestro in BG.

    Wait, I thought Maestro could glance the heavies from Magneto eventually
    He does eventually glace them, so the trick is to throw as many heavies as you possibly can before the glancing kicks in. After that you just build upto sp3 , heavy charge to multiply prowess and launch. The damage from the sp3 and the shrapnel bleeds should finish him off. But if it doesn't...well you're just unlucky.
  • sherin_66sherin_66 Member Posts: 264 ★★★
    edited April 19
    Not sure if this is a popular option or not, but Adam Warlock works wonders against Bishop. I recommend using the sp3 rotation because you can reach your sovereignty either when you are close to it or after you have launched it. With the big fury and you being incinerate immune, Bishop becomes a punching bag. You can also activate his pod if any of his specials become unblockable. My 6* r3 has been putting in work. If anything, you can activate your sovereignty early and work from there.
  • sherin_66sherin_66 Member Posts: 264 ★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    So I was testing some stuff today and realised that buffed Luke Cage is actually a great counter to Killmonger. But how?

    Luke Cage’s exhaustions can reverse Killmonger’s power gain he gets from debuffs, Sunder reduces Killmonger’s crit resistance to zero. You do need to play around reverb but Luke’s concussion can shut it down almost entirely

    What about some other matchups you may not expect? Another is Photon vs Onslaught

    How does Photon counter Onslaught? My r4 ascended is itching for battle.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Red Guardian for FAM, you're doing one hit heavy hits during most of the fight so once the first nano armor is gone you almost never have to worry about them and you can easily take him down in under 40 secs.

    Have to try that, also changed your profile pic?
    It's a really fun matchup, you should definitely try it

    And yes I did lol I am spreading the gospel.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,060 ★★★★★


    Also just found out that Chee'ilth is a good Rintrah counter
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