can we slow down the 7 stars?

startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 985 ★★★★
6*s were around for 5.5 years...we're 1 year in to 7*s and halfway through the rarity.

7* shard economy far exceeds what we had with 6*s, we have new valiant crystals, and act 9 is coming out which implies introduction of t7b which probably means spenders might have an r4 during gifting.

r5s by dec 2025 and r6s by dec 2026?

that's 3.5 years...

we were skeptical with 7*s but challenger rating and stat focus saved them, i'm just not sure many want 8*s this fast.
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  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 985 ★★★★
    ahmynuts said:



    That Kabam has already commented on this multiple times and are already doing it.

    we know we're getting 8s, 9s, and 10s+, but don't you think it's too fast?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    At this rate there is no way the game will survive for another 5.5 years. I'm not saying we're probably getting 8* in 3 years but I doubt it'll take as long as it did before.
  • FolkvangrFolkvangr Member Posts: 169 ★★
    No
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,284 ★★★★★
    No, we don’t even have rank 4 material yet
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 6,280 ★★★★★
    edited May 17
    In theory, a new rank should be made available to at least top spenders once per year. 18 months at most for ftp.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    At this rate there is no way the game will survive for another 5.5 years.

    I'll take that bet.
    The game has already been around for 10 years. How many console games are still getting updates, patches and new content after 10 years? I'm not even gonna ask about mobile games cause I can probably count them with my fingers. If you've played other video games in general other than mcoc you'd know 80% of them die down before the ten year mark.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    edited May 17
    Zuro said:

    At this rate there is no way the game will survive for another 5.5 years. I'm not saying we're probably getting 8* in 3 years but I doubt it'll take as long as it did before.

    The game is gonna die because people are getting/upgrading 7 stars??

    These type of complaints are just a cycle at this point with each new star level
    Not what I said, you need to go work on that dyslexia bud you've been struggling with it for a while now.

    I'm not complaining, I'm just saying if it's going to take 6 years for 8* to come to the game, there's a strong possibility the game will be dead by then. The game has already been around for 10 years, how many mobile games have been around for 16 and still receive updates as well as new content on a monthly basis?
  • Blax999Blax999 Member Posts: 82
    They said they would reduce the tempo after 7r3. I think that the 6th rank of the 7*s give them plenty of time to make them revelant for few years.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,546 ★★★★★

    Zuro said:

    At this rate there is no way the game will survive for another 5.5 years. I'm not saying we're probably getting 8* in 3 years but I doubt it'll take as long as it did before.

    The game is gonna die because people are getting/upgrading 7 stars??

    These type of complaints are just a cycle at this point with each new star level
    Not what I said, you need to go work on that dyslexia bud you've been struggling with it for a while now.

    I'm not complaining, I'm just saying if it's going to take 6 years for 8* to come to the game, there's a strong possibility the game will be dead by then. The game has already been around for 10 years, how many mobile games have been around for 16 and still receive updates as well as new content on a monthly basis?
    To be fair, there aren’t as many games that are as big as MCOC out there. Kabam has a big property here and they could keep this going for a long time. The only other mobile games that were as big as this one were games like Injustice, and that was only killed off in favor of a sequel + there’s already a console version. I think that as long as marvel is popular, mcoc won’t die. Unless Kabam suddenly collapses or something
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    edited May 17
    Emilia90 said:

    Zuro said:

    At this rate there is no way the game will survive for another 5.5 years. I'm not saying we're probably getting 8* in 3 years but I doubt it'll take as long as it did before.

    The game is gonna die because people are getting/upgrading 7 stars??

    These type of complaints are just a cycle at this point with each new star level
    Not what I said, you need to go work on that dyslexia bud you've been struggling with it for a while now.

    I'm not complaining, I'm just saying if it's going to take 6 years for 8* to come to the game, there's a strong possibility the game will be dead by then. The game has already been around for 10 years, how many mobile games have been around for 16 and still receive updates as well as new content on a monthly basis?
    To be fair, there aren’t as many games that are as big as MCOC out there. Kabam has a big property here and they could keep this going for a long time. The only other mobile games that were as big as this one were games like Injustice, and that was only killed off in favor of a sequel + there’s already a console version. I think that as long as marvel is popular, mcoc won’t die. Unless Kabam suddenly collapses or something
    I agree that the game is pretty big right now (at least when it comes to mobile games, console ones are a different story) and is still going strong, but 6 years is a long time and it won't be easy keeping the game relevant and bringing in new players while also keeping the current playerbase interested especially considering they don't have as many popular characters left to add (Lizard level of popularity) + MCU crumbling down because of bad decisions from Disney means people will probably continue to lose interest in Marvel related stuff in general.
    I think a lot of people misunderstood my comment, I didn't say the game is dying as of 2024, it's not. I was just saying that the 8* waiting time will probably be shorter than the 7* even if just by a year. If they don't, it could be very risky imo just because of the fact that the game has already been running for 10 years which is already absolutely crazy for a mobile game, and the other reasons I mentioned.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,642 ★★★★★
    How are they rushing them?
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 5,688 ★★★★★
    Blax999 said:

    They said they would reduce the tempo after 7r3. I think that the 6th rank of the 7*s give them plenty of time to make them revelant for few years.

    That and additional levels of ascension for 6* will help.
  • Asher1_1Asher1_1 Member Posts: 768 ★★★

    6*s were around for 5.5 years...we're 1 year in to 7*s and halfway through the rarity.

    7* shard economy far exceeds what we had with 6*s, we have new valiant crystals, and act 9 is coming out which implies introduction of t7b which probably means spenders might have an r4 during gifting.

    r5s by dec 2025 and r6s by dec 2026?

    that's 3.5 years...

    we were skeptical with 7*s but challenger rating and stat focus saved them, i'm just not sure many want 8*s this fast.

    Think if u are one of the investor in the game

    - Each month 2 new champ check for balance of
    the game.
    - build monthly quest ,Sq ,incursion ,
    battleground,aq, aw .
    - special events , sagas ,wow,sos

    All these takes efforts to make develop,test ,fix & still there is not enough revenue generated.

    So events like
    - Act 8 offers
    - Pooliea event offers
    - Omega Days offers
    - next July 4th offers in plan

    + All planned from watching top alliance spenders to the Avg players who doesn't spend.

    As kabam wants more active players + make profits.
    I think they are doing a great job 👍
  • ReignkingTWReignkingTW Member Posts: 2,774 ★★★★★
    I'll admit as an FTP I can't believe I have so many 7s. And I've been extremely fortunate with my pulls, to the point where I pull an average (Overseer) I'm ambivalent.
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 1,494 ★★★★

    DNA3000 said:

    At this rate there is no way the game will survive for another 5.5 years.

    I'll take that bet.
    The game has already been around for 10 years. How many console games are still getting updates, patches and new content after 10 years? I'm not even gonna ask about mobile games cause I can probably count them with my fingers. If you've played other video games in general other than mcoc you'd know 80% of them die down before the ten year mark.
    And yet this one's still going strong...
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,243 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Zuro said:

    At this rate there is no way the game will survive for another 5.5 years. I'm not saying we're probably getting 8* in 3 years but I doubt it'll take as long as it did before.

    The game is gonna die because people are getting/upgrading 7 stars??

    These type of complaints are just a cycle at this point with each new star level
    Not what I said, you need to go work on that dyslexia bud you've been struggling with it for a while now.

    I'm not complaining, I'm just saying if it's going to take 6 years for 8* to come to the game, there's a strong possibility the game will be dead by then. The game has already been around for 10 years, how many mobile games have been around for 16 and still receive updates as well as new content on a monthly basis?
    To be fair, there aren’t as many games that are as big as MCOC out there. Kabam has a big property here and they could keep this going for a long time. The only other mobile games that were as big as this one were games like Injustice, and that was only killed off in favor of a sequel + there’s already a console version. I think that as long as marvel is popular, mcoc won’t die. Unless Kabam suddenly collapses or something
    I agree that the game is pretty big right now (at least when it comes to mobile games, console ones are a different story) and is still going strong, but 6 years is a long time and it won't be easy keeping the game relevant and bringing in new players while also keeping the current playerbase interested especially considering they don't have as many popular characters left to add (Lizard level of popularity) + MCU crumbling down because of bad decisions from Disney means people will probably continue to lose interest in Marvel related stuff in general.
    I think a lot of people misunderstood my comment, I didn't say the game is dying as of 2024, it's not. I was just saying that the 8* waiting time will probably be shorter than the 7* even if just by a year. If they don't, it could be very risky imo just because of the fact that the game has already been running for 10 years which is already absolutely crazy for a mobile game, and the other reasons I mentioned.
    I like getting non popular as its kinda keeps it interesting especially with tech upgrades u never know what they would do for them something new like they always try so this game will always thrive even if they dont do popular characters also mcu crumbling has no effect on mcoc when we only get a few mcu event tie ins and its only for films mainly. This game could go for another 10 years easily when they have so many still to add
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    edited May 17

    DNA3000 said:

    At this rate there is no way the game will survive for another 5.5 years.

    I'll take that bet.
    The game has already been around for 10 years. How many console games are still getting updates, patches and new content after 10 years? I'm not even gonna ask about mobile games cause I can probably count them with my fingers. If you've played other video games in general other than mcoc you'd know 80% of them die down before the ten year mark.
    And yet this one's still going strong...
    That could easily change in six years, do you have any idea how many games die after going strong for 10 years? Again, I'm not saying it will but it baffles me that people think the game will easily survive for 6 years if 8* aren't introduced before that.
  • ReignkingTWReignkingTW Member Posts: 2,774 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Zuro said:

    At this rate there is no way the game will survive for another 5.5 years. I'm not saying we're probably getting 8* in 3 years but I doubt it'll take as long as it did before.

    The game is gonna die because people are getting/upgrading 7 stars??

    These type of complaints are just a cycle at this point with each new star level
    Not what I said, you need to go work on that dyslexia bud you've been struggling with it for a while now.

    I'm not complaining, I'm just saying if it's going to take 6 years for 8* to come to the game, there's a strong possibility the game will be dead by then. The game has already been around for 10 years, how many mobile games have been around for 16 and still receive updates as well as new content on a monthly basis?
    To be fair, there aren’t as many games that are as big as MCOC out there. Kabam has a big property here and they could keep this going for a long time. The only other mobile games that were as big as this one were games like Injustice, and that was only killed off in favor of a sequel + there’s already a console version. I think that as long as marvel is popular, mcoc won’t die. Unless Kabam suddenly collapses or something
    I agree that the game is pretty big right now (at least when it comes to mobile games, console ones are a different story) and is still going strong, but 6 years is a long time and it won't be easy keeping the game relevant and bringing in new players while also keeping the current playerbase interested especially considering they don't have as many popular characters left to add (Lizard level of popularity) + MCU crumbling down because of bad decisions from Disney means people will probably continue to lose interest in Marvel related stuff in general.
    I think a lot of people misunderstood my comment, I didn't say the game is dying as of 2024, it's not. I was just saying that the 8* waiting time will probably be shorter than the 7* even if just by a year. If they don't, it could be very risky imo just because of the fact that the game has already been running for 10 years which is already absolutely crazy for a mobile game, and the other reasons I mentioned.
    I like getting non popular as its kinda keeps it interesting especially with tech upgrades u never know what they would do for them something new like they always try so this game will always thrive even if they dont do popular characters also mcu crumbling has no effect on mcoc when we only get a few mcu event tie ins and its only for films mainly. This game could go for another 10 years easily when they have so many still to add
    Holy run-on I have no idea what you were trying to say.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Zuro said:

    At this rate there is no way the game will survive for another 5.5 years. I'm not saying we're probably getting 8* in 3 years but I doubt it'll take as long as it did before.

    The game is gonna die because people are getting/upgrading 7 stars??

    These type of complaints are just a cycle at this point with each new star level
    Not what I said, you need to go work on that dyslexia bud you've been struggling with it for a while now.

    I'm not complaining, I'm just saying if it's going to take 6 years for 8* to come to the game, there's a strong possibility the game will be dead by then. The game has already been around for 10 years, how many mobile games have been around for 16 and still receive updates as well as new content on a monthly basis?
    To be fair, there aren’t as many games that are as big as MCOC out there. Kabam has a big property here and they could keep this going for a long time. The only other mobile games that were as big as this one were games like Injustice, and that was only killed off in favor of a sequel + there’s already a console version. I think that as long as marvel is popular, mcoc won’t die. Unless Kabam suddenly collapses or something
    I agree that the game is pretty big right now (at least when it comes to mobile games, console ones are a different story) and is still going strong, but 6 years is a long time and it won't be easy keeping the game relevant and bringing in new players while also keeping the current playerbase interested especially considering they don't have as many popular characters left to add (Lizard level of popularity) + MCU crumbling down because of bad decisions from Disney means people will probably continue to lose interest in Marvel related stuff in general.
    I think a lot of people misunderstood my comment, I didn't say the game is dying as of 2024, it's not. I was just saying that the 8* waiting time will probably be shorter than the 7* even if just by a year. If they don't, it could be very risky imo just because of the fact that the game has already been running for 10 years which is already absolutely crazy for a mobile game, and the other reasons I mentioned.
    I like getting non popular as its kinda keeps it interesting especially with tech upgrades u never know what they would do for them something new like they always try so this game will always thrive even if they dont do popular characters also mcu crumbling has no effect on mcoc when we only get a few mcu event tie ins and its only for films mainly. This game could go for another 10 years easily when they have so many still to add
    1. Non popular characters aren't going to bring in as many new players as popular characters for obvious reasons.
    2. I mentioned the MCU in reply to someone saying Marvel in general is a huge deal, which it is right now but with the MCU crumbling down that popularity will start to die down if you don't read comics.
    3. It could, but if it takes them six years to release 8* I don't think it will be as easy to keep people interested in the game as you think. The reaction from the playerbase when 7* we're announced was even bigger than when Necropolis was announced, champ rarity is one of the things that keeeps the game alive.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,767 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Zuro said:

    At this rate there is no way the game will survive for another 5.5 years. I'm not saying we're probably getting 8* in 3 years but I doubt it'll take as long as it did before.

    The game is gonna die because people are getting/upgrading 7 stars??

    These type of complaints are just a cycle at this point with each new star level
    Not what I said, you need to go work on that dyslexia bud you've been struggling with it for a while now.

    I'm not complaining, I'm just saying if it's going to take 6 years for 8* to come to the game, there's a strong possibility the game will be dead by then. The game has already been around for 10 years, how many mobile games have been around for 16 and still receive updates as well as new content on a monthly basis?
    To be fair, there aren’t as many games that are as big as MCOC out there. Kabam has a big property here and they could keep this going for a long time. The only other mobile games that were as big as this one were games like Injustice, and that was only killed off in favor of a sequel + there’s already a console version. I think that as long as marvel is popular, mcoc won’t die. Unless Kabam suddenly collapses or something
    I agree that the game is pretty big right now (at least when it comes to mobile games, console ones are a different story) and is still going strong, but 6 years is a long time and it won't be easy keeping the game relevant and bringing in new players while also keeping the current playerbase interested especially considering they don't have as many popular characters left to add (Lizard level of popularity) + MCU crumbling down because of bad decisions from Disney means people will probably continue to lose interest in Marvel related stuff in general.
    I think a lot of people misunderstood my comment, I didn't say the game is dying as of 2024, it's not. I was just saying that the 8* waiting time will probably be shorter than the 7* even if just by a year. If they don't, it could be very risky imo just because of the fact that the game has already been running for 10 years which is already absolutely crazy for a mobile game, and the other reasons I mentioned.
    I like getting non popular as its kinda keeps it interesting especially with tech upgrades u never know what they would do for them something new like they always try so this game will always thrive even if they dont do popular characters also mcu crumbling has no effect on mcoc when we only get a few mcu event tie ins and its only for films mainly. This game could go for another 10 years easily when they have so many still to add
    I'm pretty sure 2020 was still good for Kabam and that was the year they were doing alot of unpopular and random champs
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    how many mobile games have been around for 16 and still receive updates as well as new content on a monthly basis?

    I would guess not many, as the Apple App Store is itself less than 16 years old. I think the Angry Birds franchise itself is just about 16 years old, as it was one of the first games launched on Android just ahead of the Apple App Store launch.

    There are live service games that are that old and still being supported. World of Warcraft is twenty years old. Eve Online is even older and still actively supported. I still have a lifetime sub to Star Trek Online and that game is 14 years old and still going.

    it is definitely rare for a live service game to survive that long. However, it is also rare for a live service game to last ten years. Once you get past about five or six years, your odds of surviving another year stop dropping, as you’ve survived most of the threats that kill games in their first few years.

    I think there’s a better than 90% chance the game survives for the next three years. If you asked me for odds the game makes it six more years, I’d probably say 70/30. And that’s not uninformed optimism: I’ve seen a lot of games go down in my time.
    I absolutely agree with every single thing you've said, it is entirely possible for the game to survive another six, ten years even. However, none of the games you mentioned would've survived if it wasn't for the updates.
    Game modes are the #1 thing of course (which mcoc does have), new characters are the second most important thing (mcoc also has this), however I'd argue that in mcoc's case champ rarity is up there with new characters because champ rarity is just as important and it keeps the game alive.
    The game has crossed that ten year mark and imo they can't risk it and wait another six years to release 8*, this obviously doesn't mean releasing them in the next three years either. The way I see it is they will need to speed up the process to some extent, 8* waiting time should be a bit shorter than the 7* especially since it's barely been a year and p2w already have multiple r3 7*. Remember how long it took us to get the first bunch of r3 6* when they were first released? So far it does look like they're speeding up the process a bit, they aren't rushing it but they have been speeding it up a bit, and I hope they continue to do so just not on every single p2w event.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,845 Guardian

    DNA3000 said:

    how many mobile games have been around for 16 and still receive updates as well as new content on a monthly basis?

    I would guess not many, as the Apple App Store is itself less than 16 years old. I think the Angry Birds franchise itself is just about 16 years old, as it was one of the first games launched on Android just ahead of the Apple App Store launch.

    There are live service games that are that old and still being supported. World of Warcraft is twenty years old. Eve Online is even older and still actively supported. I still have a lifetime sub to Star Trek Online and that game is 14 years old and still going.

    it is definitely rare for a live service game to survive that long. However, it is also rare for a live service game to last ten years. Once you get past about five or six years, your odds of surviving another year stop dropping, as you’ve survived most of the threats that kill games in their first few years.

    I think there’s a better than 90% chance the game survives for the next three years. If you asked me for odds the game makes it six more years, I’d probably say 70/30. And that’s not uninformed optimism: I’ve seen a lot of games go down in my time.
    I absolutely agree with every single thing you've said, it is entirely possible for the game to survive another six, ten years even. However, none of the games you mentioned would've survived if it wasn't for the updates.
    Game modes are the #1 thing of course (which mcoc does have), new characters are the second most important thing (mcoc also has this), however I'd argue that in mcoc's case champ rarity is up there with new characters because champ rarity is just as important and it keeps the game alive.
    The game has crossed that ten year mark and imo they can't risk it and wait another six years to release 8*, this obviously doesn't mean releasing them in the next three years either. The way I see it is they will need to speed up the process to some extent, 8* waiting time should be a bit shorter than the 7* especially since it's barely been a year and p2w already have multiple r3 7*. Remember how long it took us to get the first bunch of r3 6* when they were first released? So far it does look like they're speeding up the process a bit, they aren't rushing it but they have been speeding it up a bit, and I hope they continue to do so just not on every single p2w event.
    They have signaled that they intend to go faster than they did with 6* champs, but I believe this is less about 8s, and more about progression in general. Which is to say, I believe the devs feel that rungs on the progression ladder, which are the intertwined elements of progression titles and rank up tiers, need to move forward at a higher pace. The arrival of 8s is going to come quicker not directly, but indirectly as part of the process of the progression ladder extending upward quicker.

    New rarities reset the champion chase meta game, so they are important. But they are interconnected with progression titles, and progression titles in general are a separate and equally important chase incentive.

    This is a change in development direction, and it signals some interesting changes in the future of the game. Speed was originally seen as problematic, because it made the game taller and the devs could only support so much continuous height in the game. It would be analogous to a building maintenance company that could only maintain a building with so many floors. They seem less afraid of speed now, which implies one of two things. One: they think they can service more floors in a building than before, which seems unlikely. Two: they aren't going to service every floor equally. That seems more likely, vis-a-vis early game acceleration.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,356 ★★★★★

    Bendy said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Zuro said:

    At this rate there is no way the game will survive for another 5.5 years. I'm not saying we're probably getting 8* in 3 years but I doubt it'll take as long as it did before.

    The game is gonna die because people are getting/upgrading 7 stars??

    These type of complaints are just a cycle at this point with each new star level
    Not what I said, you need to go work on that dyslexia bud you've been struggling with it for a while now.

    I'm not complaining, I'm just saying if it's going to take 6 years for 8* to come to the game, there's a strong possibility the game will be dead by then. The game has already been around for 10 years, how many mobile games have been around for 16 and still receive updates as well as new content on a monthly basis?
    To be fair, there aren’t as many games that are as big as MCOC out there. Kabam has a big property here and they could keep this going for a long time. The only other mobile games that were as big as this one were games like Injustice, and that was only killed off in favor of a sequel + there’s already a console version. I think that as long as marvel is popular, mcoc won’t die. Unless Kabam suddenly collapses or something
    I agree that the game is pretty big right now (at least when it comes to mobile games, console ones are a different story) and is still going strong, but 6 years is a long time and it won't be easy keeping the game relevant and bringing in new players while also keeping the current playerbase interested especially considering they don't have as many popular characters left to add (Lizard level of popularity) + MCU crumbling down because of bad decisions from Disney means people will probably continue to lose interest in Marvel related stuff in general.
    I think a lot of people misunderstood my comment, I didn't say the game is dying as of 2024, it's not. I was just saying that the 8* waiting time will probably be shorter than the 7* even if just by a year. If they don't, it could be very risky imo just because of the fact that the game has already been running for 10 years which is already absolutely crazy for a mobile game, and the other reasons I mentioned.
    I like getting non popular as its kinda keeps it interesting especially with tech upgrades u never know what they would do for them something new like they always try so this game will always thrive even if they dont do popular characters also mcu crumbling has no effect on mcoc when we only get a few mcu event tie ins and its only for films mainly. This game could go for another 10 years easily when they have so many still to add
    1. Non popular characters aren't going to bring in as many new players as popular characters for obvious reasons.
    2. I mentioned the MCU in reply to someone saying Marvel in general is a huge deal, which it is right now but with the MCU crumbling down that popularity will start to die down if you don't read comics.
    3. It could, but if it takes them six years to release 8* I don't think it will be as easy to keep people interested in the game as you think. The reaction from the playerbase when 7* we're announced was even bigger than when Necropolis was announced, champ rarity is one of the things that keeeps the game alive.
    I'm willing to get a fair amount of the player base doesn't read comics and only plays because of the MCU. So whether a champion that comes to the game is "popular" doesn't mean much. I think more people want fun champion designs like the newest summoners choice champion. NTW isn't a small, small, small part of the MCU and a completely different character in the comics and she's already well received because of what she can do to Bullseye. Which is another example. Bullseye isn't a high profile character in the comics either but he's popular in this game.

    Many of the popular champions in this game aren't the biggest stars in either of the MCU or the comics.

    I'm willing to bet more people like it because they can play as comic characters. This game offers more replay value than other games and isn't as much of a grind.

    Marvel Strike Force and Marvel Future Fight have become incredible grinds just to stay relevant. The replay value is very low because it's super repetitive.

    Marvel Future Revolution was a cool shiny toy until everyone figured out that you have to repeat everything for each character you want to build up. And the. The lack characters as well played into it.

    Lesser known characters won't be what kills this game. Tanking the replay value would be the end of it.
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