Kabam, have you given up?
WhiteKnight
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It's a serious question... I've seen countless complaints on this Onlasught AI and not a single Moderator response.
Since the update the AI has gotten even WORSE. I have just been parried while punishing CGRs sp1, never has this happened before.
The AI recover so much faster than us and its blatantly obvious Kabam either are incapable of fixing this or they just don't care because it is getting worse with every update.
If anyone wants to see just how bad it is, have a run with Bullseye... when he triggers his killer instinct on defence you're done, you can't block or dex his follow up combo but when using him on attack the AI is parrying/dexing out.
This has been going on for way too long, how hard can it possibly be to fix? It's your own damn AI 😂 it's just embarrassing at this point
Since the update the AI has gotten even WORSE. I have just been parried while punishing CGRs sp1, never has this happened before.
The AI recover so much faster than us and its blatantly obvious Kabam either are incapable of fixing this or they just don't care because it is getting worse with every update.
If anyone wants to see just how bad it is, have a run with Bullseye... when he triggers his killer instinct on defence you're done, you can't block or dex his follow up combo but when using him on attack the AI is parrying/dexing out.
This has been going on for way too long, how hard can it possibly be to fix? It's your own damn AI 😂 it's just embarrassing at this point
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Or even half will work
Most game companies face a ton of scrutiny when their games aren’t working and the AI in this game isn’t at a level I’d consider acceptable tbh. If those other companies can face backlash for a bugged product, so can Kabam
I'd understand if Jax or Crashed kept coming here saying it's fixed over and over and its not but it's not what's happening.
The amount of work that has to be done to make my device perform the same as your device, is enormous. We already see such a discrepancy in reports from threads on here. Some experience the same, others aren't.
OP doesn't have a clue. He wants results now but has no idea what it takes.
Criticize them but do it constructively. Leave the "embarrassing, they gave up, they don't care, they don't know what they're doing" out of it.
Its unfortunate for Kabam (although Kabam should have known they were opening the can of worms) that some major PITA defenders were released back to back which even further highlighted the AI related issues. And to be fair, the combination of AI issues makes the overall problem larger than it would be if they weren't boosting each other even further. For example, super passive AI + input not being acknowledged (e.g. you swipe but you are just standing there and take a pounding) + AI jumping frames = disaster. Add in tougher defenders + extremely annoying node combinations and you have a perfect storm.
When you have a problem, you solve it. When you have a BIG problem on your hands, you break it down into smaller problems and solve them one by one. At least show some progression. What we are seeing feels like nothing is being done. And THAT is a problem.
Don't get me wrong. We have had some really good communication from Kabam too but it has been a while since we have heard something meaningful. I really don't see why we can't have a monthly statement released on where we are. Just a quick what AI issues are being looked at, what's in the queue, what's nearly complete, what's being tested, etc.
And YES I get that the AI issues are very complicated. The interaction of different champions with each other is very complex. The game is very deep. And I appreciate the effort Kabam has put forth in not only putting this game together but also keeping it running for over 9 years. But some of these AI related issues seem out of these complexities.
They have been acknowledging everytime of the update they are working on like for example they are working on how often ai should use the parry mastery
The simple fact is Kabam are either doing something in the background and not telling us and it is majorly back firing or they aren't doing anything.
I've seen maybe 3 posts of changes in the last 12-months and yet the AI changes monthly, so is the AI out of control? Is Kabam trying and failing every single month and we're just the testers without knowing?
Unfortunately, these posts you're seeing constantly coming up aren't even the same complaints. I don't remember the last time I saw a 'dropped inputs' post, it's still a massive issue as it has been the last 3 years but it's the same issue, it isn't getting worse; AI is, constantly.
This has been an issue for MINIMUM 18-months, and when you look at the dropped inputs not being fixed for 3-years it is genuinely concerning. Do I keep spending with no light at the end of the tunnel because the AI will get worse and worse to the point where it is completely unplayable and now i've wasted MORE money?
As Emilia said, this is backlash for their poor performance... the complaints and backlash doesn't just stop because they acknowledged it, it stops when the problem is fixed and comes back when the same problem gets worse.
The game itself is a million times better now, there is so much content, so many champions and it is an amazing game but its being destroyed by one simple thing.
18-months and next zero results is embarrassing... Kabam surely have someone or a team working on this daily and for them to not be able to fix it in all this time? Sheeeesh I'd be fired if I spent this long on one project and had no results 👀
In this hypothetical scenario there's like 6 more issues to start investigating based off of this one change of a single value. It's not easy
I can see being a F2P player or mild spender and getting frustrated due to all these issues and using the argument "it's not that easy to fix," but for those of us who are huge spenders, this is becoming a bit more than frustrating.
(Don’t know why it posted twice)
It's really simply to understand what is going on wirhout knowing coding, here I'll spell it out:
1. Kabam ARE working on this, they're Adjusting the AI, letting it play out and HAT is the reason the AI is changing every single month.
2. Kabam are NOT working on this and the AI is adapting and changing by itself.
Is there a third?
The problem is, as you've already said, we don't actually know what it is, Kabam aren't updating us to say whether they're working on it constantly or not, we just get a post once very 6-months saying 'we don't touch ai but we changed this one thing'
The issue at present isn’t gonna be solved by 60 people creating post saying ‘a.i is terrible kabam needs to fix up’ etc. its reductive and helps kabam in no way. If the op posted issues specifically with a.i like the shallow dexing of onslaught then sure it would be a worth while post to engage in + helps kabam find a focus point.
However they have stated that they are aware of issues on the forum and can’t respond to people unless they have an update on the situation. It would be mentally taxing to have to go to every single new post that pops up and explain to people over again that they are aware of the issue and have no update at the moment. Especially since jax is a community manager and not a leading developer at kabam.
No game would forsaken their core mechanic because they just feel silly. If they had a fix for A.I they would implement it but at the moment trynna find a correct fix that won’t cause another issue takes time. People complain that a.i has been terrible for years but that’s not true, there have been a.i issues over the year but they have mostly been different and the cause have been different.
Also while not all. There are people who will be quick to blame a.i for every thing even if the mistake is on their part, so trying to actually determine if the a.i is behaving badly or its a false report adds to their workload.