Enough, enough with these immunity penalty nodes

Buzerk1969

Once again, by lack of creativity or laziness, you have decided to penalize using reverse control immune champ. Why even bring this immunity in the game if it is to then penalize its use. You even went further this time, you can't even attempt to use them, you die within seconds.

I refused to explore Necropolis for that reason, and I will most probably skip this week SOS. Reverse control is hard enough, switching back and forth from it is just stupid. It is stupid in Necropolis, it is even more stupid this week. If I don't get the last piece for Vision because of it, I guess I will have to decide if I go full retirement from this game.

Don't give me the "you don't have to do everything in the game" bull. You are purposely making this game more and more annoying.

This content is only great for content creator like MSD or KarateMike. Place this stupid node in Carina Content Creator Challenge, it's perfect for them, they will get views on youtube and we won't be bother by it.

And no, reverse control is not a skill, it's an annoyance, period. Switching every 8 second, that's giving us the middle finger

Bendy

They made nodes to penalty as other wise it be too easy like if u used jugs it would take 2 sp2s most likely to almost kill her

Pikolu

Miike did say Spring of Sorrow would live up to its name. Isn't called spring of pleasant strolls for a reason.

You also have to realize this is endgame content for endgame players

ahmynuts

Just say you don't have the skills to be able to swipe the other way. It's okay this isn't a safe space

Buttehrs

Odd. Plenty of normal people have already finished the fight with lots of champs. It honestly is a skill issue.

Buzerk1969

ahmynuts said:

Just say you don't have the skills to be able to swipe the other way. It's okay this isn't a safe space

Took only a few second to get one of those.... it's "skill"... go have a drink with MSD

Wicket329

1) If you don’t get the piece, you can get it for units down the line. Not that big of a deal.

2) Reversed controls is not that bad. You just gotta practice it for a while and it’s fine.

3) I am not MSD or anything like that, and I’ve had two different 80% runs at this boss already with different champions, unboosted and while listening to a podcast. This is extremely doable.

4) Reverse controls is literally a skill. It shows up frequently enough in the game that it is a thing worth knowing how to do, same as parrying, dexing, and intercepting.

Buzerk1969

Wicket329 said:

4) Reverse controls is literally a skill. It shows up frequently enough in the game that it is a thing worth knowing how to do, same as parrying, dexing, and intercepting.

Then why do we have reverse control immune champs, why creating a specific node penalizing their use. Don't bring it to the game at all since, as you said, it's an "easy" skill, to the like of parry, dexting...

Josh2507

It’s a tricky fight, but… it’s supposed to be. This was always sold to us as challenging content

PantherusNZ

This fight must be fought with Reverse Controls up, or it would be ludicrously easy, it's that simple.

There are plenty of similar nodes where the clear intent of the fight is for you to manage the impact of the node and, because bringing in an immune champ would trivialise it, they counter it.

Gwenpool is an incredibly easy champion to fight under normal circumstances, this SoS fight is all about the reverse controls - so just practice, you'll get there in the end, or you won't and can either revive through it or skip it - your choice.

Bendy

Buzerk1969 said:

Wicket329 said:

4) Reverse controls is literally a skill. It shows up frequently enough in the game that it is a thing worth knowing how to do, same as parrying, dexing, and intercepting.

Then why do we have reverse control immune champs, why creating a specific node penalizing their use. Don't bring it to the game at all since, as you said, it's an "easy" skill, to the like of parry, dexting...

They do with all immunities like robots theres a node in game where if u run a robot if immune to poison or bleed u get incinerated they do this so fights cant be cheesed as i mentioned wheres gp difficulty if u couldnt use reverse immune it wouldnt these are suppose to be tough and test skill and reverse controls is a skilled node but easily cheesed so have to make sure it cant

Buttehrs

Buzerk1969 said:

Wicket329 said:

4) Reverse controls is literally a skill. It shows up frequently enough in the game that it is a thing worth knowing how to do, same as parrying, dexing, and intercepting.

Then why do we have reverse control immune champs, why creating a specific node penalizing their use. Don't bring it to the game at all since, as you said, it's an "easy" skill, to the like of parry, dexting...

You act like it's the first time they've penalized a certain aspect of a kit or mastery or something. It's not.

captain_rogers

I do agree reverse controls shouldn't be forced upon players. But this content is meant to be tough, hair pulling, irritating and even makes you think about quitting the game. That's the point of SOS. So I don't mind these nodes being unfair, cuz that's the intention.

SeamusRed

I do wish they would just override the reverse control immunity rather than kill off your champ. If you only have 1 good option for an objective leveled like Juggs it would suck to be completely unable to use them. For example my only 2 leveled brotherhood of mutants are juggs and prof x and am unable to use either.

Bendy

SeamusRed said:

I do wish they would just override the reverse control immunity rather than kill off your champ. If you only have 1 good option for an objective leveled like Juggs it would suck to be completely unable to use them. For example my only 2 leveled brotherhood of mutants are juggs and prof x and am unable to use either.

U got 2 weeks to level up toad sauron omega red

Wicket329

Buzerk1969 said:

Wicket329 said:

4) Reverse controls is literally a skill. It shows up frequently enough in the game that it is a thing worth knowing how to do, same as parrying, dexing, and intercepting.

Then why do we have reverse control immune champs, why creating a specific node penalizing their use. Don't bring it to the game at all since, as you said, it's an "easy" skill, to the like of parry, dexting...

Hey, where did I use the word easy in what I said? Could you point it out for me? Or do you just want to be angry and are making things up to justify it?

I said that after you practice it, it’s not that bad. Which is correct. Years ago, people were making posts like this about nodes like Aegis: Intercept where the opponent was indestructible until you intercepted them a number of times. People whined and moaned and complained, saying they shouldn’t need to learn this new thing because they already learned the old things. Eventually, they finally just got better at intercepting.

And that’s where you are right now for reversed controls. It’s a part of the game. In the future, we’re gonna see more things that complicate gameplay mechanics and those will also be skills that we all need to learn. That’s how the game works.

Buzerk1969

captain_rogers said:

I do agree reverse controls shouldn't be forced upon players. But this content is meant to be tough, hair pulling, irritating and even makes you think about quitting the game. That's the point of SOS. So I don't mind these nodes being unfair, cuz that's the intention.

Onslaugth was "hair pulling", they have over 200 champs to pick from for a boss and countless nodes to make them difficult. Laziness or lack of creativity, you pick.

Emilia90

Buzerk1969 said:

captain_rogers said:

I do agree reverse controls shouldn't be forced upon players. But this content is meant to be tough, hair pulling, irritating and even makes you think about quitting the game. That's the point of SOS. So I don't mind these nodes being unfair, cuz that's the intention.

Onslaugth was "hair pulling", they have over 200 champs to pick from for a boss and countless nodes to make them difficult. Laziness or lack of creativity, you pick.

I would say laziness. Not on kabams part but on your own. Maybe practice the fight and learn the timings

Buzerk1969

Emilia90 said:

Buzerk1969 said:

captain_rogers said:

I do agree reverse controls shouldn't be forced upon players. But this content is meant to be tough, hair pulling, irritating and even makes you think about quitting the game. That's the point of SOS. So I don't mind these nodes being unfair, cuz that's the intention.

Onslaugth was "hair pulling", they have over 200 champs to pick from for a boss and countless nodes to make them difficult. Laziness or lack of creativity, you pick.

I would say laziness. Not on kabams part but on your own. Maybe practice the fight and learn the timings

Working for Kabam? you seem busy to tell everyone how good you are on every post here.

Average_Desi

Get gud

SeamusRed

Bendy said:

SeamusRed said:

I do wish they would just override the reverse control immunity rather than kill off your champ. If you only have 1 good option for an objective leveled like Juggs it would suck to be completely unable to use them. For example my only 2 leveled brotherhood of mutants are juggs and prof x and am unable to use either.

U got 2 weeks to level up toad sauron omega red

Cool. Way to completely ignore the point of the comment. I know how to rank up champs so don't need help figuring that one out. Not going to level 6 star versions of Champs that are available as 7 stars and would rather not waste resources for a single sos point. I would sooner use a R3 6 star and open my 4 hr crystals for revives. Additionally maybe they could adjust the nodes or challenges so many of the available Champs aren't essentially prohibited.

captain_rogers

Well why don't you give 2 weeks of your time and see whether your opinions change or not? Until now we had 9 fights (6 wow and 3 sos) and I'll confidently say gwenpool isn't even the top 3 toughest boss on them.

Emilia90

Buzerk1969 said:

Emilia90 said:

Buzerk1969 said:

captain_rogers said:

I do agree reverse controls shouldn't be forced upon players. But this content is meant to be tough, hair pulling, irritating and even makes you think about quitting the game. That's the point of SOS. So I don't mind these nodes being unfair, cuz that's the intention.

Onslaugth was "hair pulling", they have over 200 champs to pick from for a boss and countless nodes to make them difficult. Laziness or lack of creativity, you pick.

I would say laziness. Not on kabams part but on your own. Maybe practice the fight and learn the timings

Working for Kabam? you seem busy to tell everyone how good you are on every post here.

I haven’t talked about my own skill even once here. But yes, I work for Kabam because I’m telling you that you’re lazy. Which you are

I’m sorry that you can’t breeze through the fight in a minute with Juggs. Must be so hard to have to learn it with the rest of us huh

DNA3000

Buzerk1969 said:

Once again, by lack of creativity or laziness, you have decided to penalize using reverse control immune champ. Why even bring this immunity in the game if it is to then penalize its use. You even went further this time, you can't even attempt to use them, you die within seconds.

I refused to explore Necropolis for that reason, and I will most probably skip this week SOS. Reverse control is hard enough, switching back and forth from it is just stupid. It is stupid in Necropolis, it is even more stupid this week. If I don't get the last piece for Vision because of it, I guess I will have to decide if I go full retirement from this game.

Don't give me the "you don't have to do everything in the game" bull. You are purposely making this game more and more annoying.

This content is only great for content creator like MSD or KarateMike. Place this stupid node in Carina Content Creator Challenge, it's perfect for them, they will get views on youtube and we won't be bother by it.

And no, reverse control is not a skill, it's an annoyance, period. Switching every 8 second, that's giving us the middle finger

If reverse controls is not a skill, then neither is forward controls.

Gildarts99

Buzerk1969 said:

Once again, by lack of creativity or laziness, you have decided to penalize using reverse control immune champ. Why even bring this immunity in the game if it is to then penalize its use. You even went further this time, you can't even attempt to use them, you die within seconds.

I refused to explore Necropolis for that reason, and I will most probably skip this week SOS. Reverse control is hard enough, switching back and forth from it is just stupid. It is stupid in Necropolis, it is even more stupid this week. If I don't get the last piece for Vision because of it, I guess I will have to decide if I go full retirement from this game.

Don't give me the "you don't have to do everything in the game" bull. You are purposely making this game more and more annoying.

This content is only great for content creator like MSD or KarateMike. Place this stupid node in Carina Content Creator Challenge, it's perfect for them, they will get views on youtube and we won't be bother by it.

And no, reverse control is not a skill, it's an annoyance, period. Switching every 8 second, that's giving us the middle finger

I understand...well maybe I think I do but give it a try man. This week's is easier than iron fists to be honest. I used a rank 3 blade for double obj. Used about 5 revives and a solo with a rank 3 toad for the brotherhood obj. It was way to easy. Practice a little and then relax whiles doing so.

Buzerk1969

DNA3000 said:

If reverse controls is not a skill, then neither is forward controls.

Cute...almost funny

Demonzfyre

Buzerk1969 said:

captain_rogers said:

I do agree reverse controls shouldn't be forced upon players. But this content is meant to be tough, hair pulling, irritating and even makes you think about quitting the game. That's the point of SOS. So I don't mind these nodes being unfair, cuz that's the intention.

Onslaugth was "hair pulling", they have over 200 champs to pick from for a boss and countless nodes to make them difficult. Laziness or lack of creativity, you pick.

Your argument is lazy and lacks creativity. You don't like reverse controls so you call it lazy. I'm sick of seeing these posts when hard content comes out. They warn you way ahead time that it won't be a cake walk but we get dozens of posts complaining about node combinations as if they weren't aware this is difficult content.

Go replay act 1. Seems more your skill level.

Buzerk1969

Gildarts99 said:

I understand...well maybe I think I do but give it a try man. This week's is easier than iron fists to be honest. I used a rank 3 blade for double obj. Used about 5 revives and a solo with a rank 3 toad for the brotherhood obj. It was way to easy. Practice a little and then relax whiles doing so.

Ironfist was easy for me... does it mean I got skills too... sorry not pointing at you, really annoying to see these "elite" guys that just don't get it.

captain_rogers

Buzerk1969 said:

captain_rogers said:

I do agree reverse controls shouldn't be forced upon players. But this content is meant to be tough, hair pulling, irritating and even makes you think about quitting the game. That's the point of SOS. So I don't mind these nodes being unfair, cuz that's the intention.

Onslaugth was "hair pulling", they have over 200 champs to pick from for a boss and countless nodes to make them difficult. Laziness or lack of creativity, you pick.

If this is about laziness or lack of creativity, Yes I do agree. I always felt reverse controls as a unnecessary implication in the game. But this one's definitely not unfair. Endgame stuff are meant to be tough. And this one is of perfect difficulty.

But I don't get it when you are angry about his fight but not the previous 2. Lemme tell you one thing, Even if you suck with reverse controls, This fight us wayy easier than onslaught and ironfist. There's nothing tricky, you just have to get the rythm right and you'll keep going.

DNA3000

Buzerk1969 said:

DNA3000 said:

If reverse controls is not a skill, then neither is forward controls.

Cute...almost funny

You say that like I was trying to be funny. This is my serious face.

Buzerk1969

Demonzfyre said:

Buzerk1969 said:

captain_rogers said:

I do agree reverse controls shouldn't be forced upon players. But this content is meant to be tough, hair pulling, irritating and even makes you think about quitting the game. That's the point of SOS. So I don't mind these nodes being unfair, cuz that's the intention.

Onslaugth was "hair pulling", they have over 200 champs to pick from for a boss and countless nodes to make them difficult. Laziness or lack of creativity, you pick.

Your argument is lazy and lacks creativity. You don't like reverse controls so you call it lazy. I'm sick of seeing these posts when hard content comes out. They warn you way ahead time that it won't be a cake walk but we get dozens of posts complaining about node combinations as if they weren't aware this is difficult content.

Go replay act 1. Seems more your skill level.

No don't like it, never will and that's why we have reverse control immune champs. But with Necro and this week SOS, Kabam decided to penalize their use, and it's even worse this week. Not just removing their immunities.