Best Dual Threat?

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  • odishika123odishika123 Member Posts: 5,414 ★★★★★
    edited July 2024
    Guardian
    Yes red skull is more annoying on defense

    But guardian easily has the highest damage among them(even more busted with hb relic👀)
    Solid on defense
    Energy resistance
    And is quite tanky in general

    Hop off my G

  • Real_Madrid_76_2Real_Madrid_76_2 Member Posts: 3,579 ★★★★★
    Guardian

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    Shocker- great attacker, mid defender

    Red skull- annoying defender, great attacker. Can be used sometimes as a mutant counter in bgs

    Guardian- with Max sig, easily the best defenders among these three. And easily the best nuke attacker among these three too. So much going on in his kit, he's just simply enjoyable can get u defensive kills unlike red skull, who just increases fight duration

    Guardian best defender? He’s got way more counters than red skull and way less defensive threat the best thinking guardian got is auto block that can be removed if he doesn’t have a armor up which is easy to remove since he isn’t nullify, stagger, fate seal or armor break immune
    It's not about how many counters a champion has, it's about what's his potential. I have seen guardian as my clutch defender in bgs. In the 3rd round when mostly opponent remains with energy damage champs or not suitable attackers, he shines. He can easily get defensive kills or the opponent would barely deal damage till he has the Armor.
    Red skull is a great defender, pretty annoying, but all he does is extend fight duration, i have never seen people die to a red skull but I have surely seen my guardian get kills bgs always
    That's just wrong. Without a counter, you have to take some good damage via block by red skull and also he stalls. Not to mention one single mistake and you lose 30% health.

    Guardian is just a tank. His sp1 catch me off guard sometimes but I think that's a me issue 😂. Guardian may time out sometimes in bgs, But no way one die to him in defense unless it's their bad day.

    I barely see people come out alive from a fight against my r5 ascended guardian😂. Even with herc, they end up dying sometimes, can u imagine? Skill issue, or probably guardian being a menace in bgs
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,716 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Polygon said:



    People seem to be undermining Guardians value on attack, this is Red Skulls best matchup (both are r3), and look at that speed. Red Skull can't do her that fast.


    Even outside this matchup, the fact red skull uses shocks means hes not the best for most mutants (dust, bishop, storm px, havok).

    Aside from Photon, Bullseye, KM , Guardian also works against Iceman because of energt resistance. Some said NTW might catch people on defense, but guess what Guardian shuts her down too with his projectile parry and non crits.

    Red Skull may be the better defender but hes not the better attacker

    I agree that guardian is the better attacker but my unduped r2 Skull can do r3 domino in like 45 seconds. I’m pretty sure a r3 skull who’s duped could match that time.
    To be fair though a r2 Guardian could've done that r3 Domino in pretty much the same time 39 secs. When you have the HB relic he is just that busted, if the special doesn't kill the shock will finish the job within the next two seconds. That fight must've been so overkill lol.
    It's a tie for me
    Fair, I was just saying that a r3 skull could definitely match or beat guardian in that specific matchup. I’ve seen like 34 second fights with him
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,654 ★★★★★
    Red Skull
    All three of them are pretty similar. Guardian and Shocker can auto block special attacks, but Red Skull not only has auto block, he also has unstoppable, ability accuracy reduction and power drain + direct damage
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,561 ★★★★★
    Red Skull
    Pikolu said:

    Red skull is an amazing dual threat and is able to take on bullseye without bullseye ever using a special (or maybe just one special, idk)

    Ohh man I keep forgetting about this trick 💀
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,125 ★★★★★
    Its also interesting that people say Chavez has dual threat value when in higher tiers of BGs she gets crushed fast (its mainly her AI that made her scary). I personally think Guardian has more defensive value than her, he's got less counters than her id have to say
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