6* magik

Greed_ExodusGreed_Exodus Member Posts: 393 ★★★
Seriously though we should have 6* magik by now, we have 7* champions like juggernaut who do endgame fights in 30 seconds but 6* magik is too op? Show us some gameplay of a r5 ascended 6* magik and I bet juggs still clears faster, so where’s the logic
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  • Greed_ExodusGreed_Exodus Member Posts: 393 ★★★

    I guess some people never played Magik....
    Its not about the limbo is the fact that unless they make a specific counter node like they did with Hercules, she can corner you in the wall and just spam sp2 for the whole duration of a fight.
    Wth have Bullseye and Onslaught have anything to do with the argument that she would probably cheese 90% of content...

    White tiger can also just spam sp2 in the corner and the opponent won’t get a sp3
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,094 ★★★★★
    xLunatiXx said:

    Magik wouldn't be broken in today's standards. Several champs can control power as hard as she does and hit way harder. Don't believe what kabam says. They said wolverine regen was too overpowered lmao
    Yet here we are, years after his 6 star and nobody is talking about him.
    As for limbo damage, I mean look at the recent champs and their "unavoidable" damage. What's so different ?

    Why are you guys using limbo as a defensive ability only?...
  • xLunatiXxxLunatiXx Member Posts: 1,413 ★★★★★

    xLunatiXx said:

    Magik wouldn't be broken in today's standards. Several champs can control power as hard as she does and hit way harder. Don't believe what kabam says. They said wolverine regen was too overpowered lmao
    Yet here we are, years after his 6 star and nobody is talking about him.
    As for limbo damage, I mean look at the recent champs and their "unavoidable" damage. What's so different ?

    Why are you guys using limbo as a defensive ability only?...
    Sure, and what's broken about limbo offensively ?
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,094 ★★★★★
    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    Magik wouldn't be broken in today's standards. Several champs can control power as hard as she does and hit way harder. Don't believe what kabam says. They said wolverine regen was too overpowered lmao
    Yet here we are, years after his 6 star and nobody is talking about him.
    As for limbo damage, I mean look at the recent champs and their "unavoidable" damage. What's so different ?

    Why are you guys using limbo as a defensive ability only?...
    Sure, and what's broken about limbo offensively ?
    Limbo offensively while cornering and spamming is not broken?...
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,480 ★★★★★
    In other modes, Magik would be absolutely broken but ig bgs and high tier war are the only modes where a champ's brokenness matters.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,449 ★★★★★

    In other modes, Magik would be absolutely broken but ig bgs and high tier war are the only modes where a champ's brokenness matters.

    She wont be a good attacker for bgs but as a defender she be a pain as a 6 r5 ascended sig 200
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,449 ★★★★★

    In other modes, Magik would be absolutely broken but ig bgs and high tier war are the only modes where a champ's brokenness matters.

    High tier war i can see her broken taking bullseye and onslaughts
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,094 ★★★★★

    In other modes, Magik would be absolutely broken but ig bgs and high tier war are the only modes where a champ's brokenness matters.

    Really? Is that why Glykhan has an anti Hercules node? Cause War and BGs is the only place where a champ being broken matters?
  • xLunatiXxxLunatiXx Member Posts: 1,413 ★★★★★

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    Magik wouldn't be broken in today's standards. Several champs can control power as hard as she does and hit way harder. Don't believe what kabam says. They said wolverine regen was too overpowered lmao
    Yet here we are, years after his 6 star and nobody is talking about him.
    As for limbo damage, I mean look at the recent champs and their "unavoidable" damage. What's so different ?

    Why are you guys using limbo as a defensive ability only?...
    Sure, and what's broken about limbo offensively ?
    Limbo offensively while cornering and spamming is not broken?...
    Are you talking about the small damage that comes from it or the healing from it? Either way nothing broken offensively. Small limbo damage and if you play her correctly and don't get hit the healing won't happen
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,551 ★★★★★
    edited July 13
    Honestly would love this. Even if Magik would be a bit too OP on defense, the extra damage from a 6* R5 would be pretty awesome. Plus having a 6 star Magik would make 7 star Blade more relevant, especially in Battlegrounds (everyone’s saying he’s one of the worst pulls in the current titan)
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,094 ★★★★★
    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    Magik wouldn't be broken in today's standards. Several champs can control power as hard as she does and hit way harder. Don't believe what kabam says. They said wolverine regen was too overpowered lmao
    Yet here we are, years after his 6 star and nobody is talking about him.
    As for limbo damage, I mean look at the recent champs and their "unavoidable" damage. What's so different ?

    Why are you guys using limbo as a defensive ability only?...
    Sure, and what's broken about limbo offensively ?
    Limbo offensively while cornering and spamming is not broken?...
    Are you talking about the small damage that comes from it or the healing from it? Either way nothing broken offensively. Small limbo damage and if you play her correctly and don't get hit the healing won't happen
    Did you look at your 5* to call it small? Cause you know it scales up...
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,551 ★★★★★
    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    Magik wouldn't be broken in today's standards. Several champs can control power as hard as she does and hit way harder. Don't believe what kabam says. They said wolverine regen was too overpowered lmao
    Yet here we are, years after his 6 star and nobody is talking about him.
    As for limbo damage, I mean look at the recent champs and their "unavoidable" damage. What's so different ?

    Why are you guys using limbo as a defensive ability only?...
    Sure, and what's broken about limbo offensively ?
    Limbo offensively while cornering and spamming is not broken?...
    Are you talking about the small damage that comes from it or the healing from it? Either way nothing broken offensively. Small limbo damage and if you play her correctly and don't get hit the healing won't happen
    It would be super annoying on defense without a counter
  • xLunatiXxxLunatiXx Member Posts: 1,413 ★★★★★

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    Magik wouldn't be broken in today's standards. Several champs can control power as hard as she does and hit way harder. Don't believe what kabam says. They said wolverine regen was too overpowered lmao
    Yet here we are, years after his 6 star and nobody is talking about him.
    As for limbo damage, I mean look at the recent champs and their "unavoidable" damage. What's so different ?

    Why are you guys using limbo as a defensive ability only?...
    Sure, and what's broken about limbo offensively ?
    Limbo offensively while cornering and spamming is not broken?...
    Are you talking about the small damage that comes from it or the healing from it? Either way nothing broken offensively. Small limbo damage and if you play her correctly and don't get hit the healing won't happen
    Did you look at your 5* to call it small? Cause you know it scales up...
    Let's compare.
    5r5 magik limbo damage is listed at 540 per sec.
    6r2 deathless guillotine degen is listed at 3800 over 6 sec. Which is 633 per sec.
    Limbo is guaranteed with sp2 and has a chance to happen with each power bar crossed. Guillotine is RNG but not that rare and can stack up.
    So where is the broken offensive limbo damage ?
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,094 ★★★★★
    edited July 13
    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    Magik wouldn't be broken in today's standards. Several champs can control power as hard as she does and hit way harder. Don't believe what kabam says. They said wolverine regen was too overpowered lmao
    Yet here we are, years after his 6 star and nobody is talking about him.
    As for limbo damage, I mean look at the recent champs and their "unavoidable" damage. What's so different ?

    Why are you guys using limbo as a defensive ability only?...
    Sure, and what's broken about limbo offensively ?
    Limbo offensively while cornering and spamming is not broken?...
    Are you talking about the small damage that comes from it or the healing from it? Either way nothing broken offensively. Small limbo damage and if you play her correctly and don't get hit the healing won't happen
    Did you look at your 5* to call it small? Cause you know it scales up...
    Let's compare.
    5r5 magik limbo damage is listed at 540 per sec.
    6r2 deathless guillotine degen is listed at 3800 over 6 sec. Which is 633 per sec.
    Limbo is guaranteed with sp2 and has a chance to happen with each power bar crossed. Guillotine is RNG but not that rare and can stack up.
    So where is the broken offensive limbo damage ?
    You just answered your own question..
    Limbo is guaranteed with sp2.. while the other one is RNG....
    Does Deathless guilly have a nulliify on SP1 and an all buff nullify on sp3 with extra damage per nullify?... Why is people comparing ability per ability and ignoring the whole kit.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,551 ★★★★★
    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    Magik wouldn't be broken in today's standards. Several champs can control power as hard as she does and hit way harder. Don't believe what kabam says. They said wolverine regen was too overpowered lmao
    Yet here we are, years after his 6 star and nobody is talking about him.
    As for limbo damage, I mean look at the recent champs and their "unavoidable" damage. What's so different ?

    Why are you guys using limbo as a defensive ability only?...
    Sure, and what's broken about limbo offensively ?
    Limbo offensively while cornering and spamming is not broken?...
    Are you talking about the small damage that comes from it or the healing from it? Either way nothing broken offensively. Small limbo damage and if you play her correctly and don't get hit the healing won't happen
    Did you look at your 5* to call it small? Cause you know it scales up...
    Let's compare.
    5r5 magik limbo damage is listed at 540 per sec.
    6r2 deathless guillotine degen is listed at 3800 over 6 sec. Which is 633 per sec.
    Limbo is guaranteed with sp2 and has a chance to happen with each power bar crossed. Guillotine is RNG but not that rare and can stack up.
    So where is the broken offensive limbo damage ?
    How much would a 6*R5 Magik limbo deal, hypothetically?
  • xLunatiXxxLunatiXx Member Posts: 1,413 ★★★★★

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    Magik wouldn't be broken in today's standards. Several champs can control power as hard as she does and hit way harder. Don't believe what kabam says. They said wolverine regen was too overpowered lmao
    Yet here we are, years after his 6 star and nobody is talking about him.
    As for limbo damage, I mean look at the recent champs and their "unavoidable" damage. What's so different ?

    Why are you guys using limbo as a defensive ability only?...
    Sure, and what's broken about limbo offensively ?
    Limbo offensively while cornering and spamming is not broken?...
    Are you talking about the small damage that comes from it or the healing from it? Either way nothing broken offensively. Small limbo damage and if you play her correctly and don't get hit the healing won't happen
    Did you look at your 5* to call it small? Cause you know it scales up...
    Let's compare.
    5r5 magik limbo damage is listed at 540 per sec.
    6r2 deathless guillotine degen is listed at 3800 over 6 sec. Which is 633 per sec.
    Limbo is guaranteed with sp2 and has a chance to happen with each power bar crossed. Guillotine is RNG but not that rare and can stack up.
    So where is the broken offensive limbo damage ?
    You just answered your own question..
    Limbo is guaranteed with sp2.. while the other one is RNG....
    The chances of not getting a single degen on your way to sp2 is close to zero. My point is Guilly ain't broken. I could have picked 20 champs with a stronger dot. Magik won't be broken, defensively in today's standards, offensively in already many years standards. Period.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,094 ★★★★★
    edited July 13
    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    Magik wouldn't be broken in today's standards. Several champs can control power as hard as she does and hit way harder. Don't believe what kabam says. They said wolverine regen was too overpowered lmao
    Yet here we are, years after his 6 star and nobody is talking about him.
    As for limbo damage, I mean look at the recent champs and their "unavoidable" damage. What's so different ?

    Why are you guys using limbo as a defensive ability only?...
    Sure, and what's broken about limbo offensively ?
    Limbo offensively while cornering and spamming is not broken?...
    Are you talking about the small damage that comes from it or the healing from it? Either way nothing broken offensively. Small limbo damage and if you play her correctly and don't get hit the healing won't happen
    Did you look at your 5* to call it small? Cause you know it scales up...
    Let's compare.
    5r5 magik limbo damage is listed at 540 per sec.
    6r2 deathless guillotine degen is listed at 3800 over 6 sec. Which is 633 per sec.
    Limbo is guaranteed with sp2 and has a chance to happen with each power bar crossed. Guillotine is RNG but not that rare and can stack up.
    So where is the broken offensive limbo damage ?
    You just answered your own question..
    Limbo is guaranteed with sp2.. while the other one is RNG....
    The chances of not getting a single degen on your way to sp2 is close to zero. My point is Guilly ain't broken. I could have picked 20 champs with a stronger dot. Magik won't be broken, defensively in today's standards, offensively in already many years standards. Period.
    I edited my answer, are we going to compare ability per ability or the kit itself?
    Period? Rofl You have to compare a 5r5 with a 6r2 (which has potential to become a 6r5 DUH!), and you think you are right.
    Sure lets get 6* Magik and cap her at R2...
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,551 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    In other modes, Magik would be absolutely broken but ig bgs and high tier war are the only modes where a champ's brokenness matters.

    High tier war i can see her broken taking bullseye and onslaughts
    I think she still needs to bait at least one special from Bullseye before she can start the power control cycle
  • Greed_ExodusGreed_Exodus Member Posts: 393 ★★★
    Also the OG play style of magik is to standup intercept after L2 and rinse and repeat, but with the way the current ai is, that would probably not even be the same
  • xLunatiXxxLunatiXx Member Posts: 1,413 ★★★★★

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    Magik wouldn't be broken in today's standards. Several champs can control power as hard as she does and hit way harder. Don't believe what kabam says. They said wolverine regen was too overpowered lmao
    Yet here we are, years after his 6 star and nobody is talking about him.
    As for limbo damage, I mean look at the recent champs and their "unavoidable" damage. What's so different ?

    Why are you guys using limbo as a defensive ability only?...
    Sure, and what's broken about limbo offensively ?
    Limbo offensively while cornering and spamming is not broken?...
    Are you talking about the small damage that comes from it or the healing from it? Either way nothing broken offensively. Small limbo damage and if you play her correctly and don't get hit the healing won't happen
    Did you look at your 5* to call it small? Cause you know it scales up...
    Let's compare.
    5r5 magik limbo damage is listed at 540 per sec.
    6r2 deathless guillotine degen is listed at 3800 over 6 sec. Which is 633 per sec.
    Limbo is guaranteed with sp2 and has a chance to happen with each power bar crossed. Guillotine is RNG but not that rare and can stack up.
    So where is the broken offensive limbo damage ?
    You just answered your own question..
    Limbo is guaranteed with sp2.. while the other one is RNG....
    The chances of not getting a single degen on your way to sp2 is close to zero. My point is Guilly ain't broken. I could have picked 20 champs with a stronger dot. Magik won't be broken, defensively in today's standards, offensively in already many years standards. Period.
    I edited my answer, are we going to compare ability per ability or the kit itself?
    Period? Rofl You have to compare a 5r5 with a 6r2 (which has potential to become a 6r5 DUH!), and you think you are right.
    Sure lets get 6* Magik and cap her at R2...
    What's wrong with comparing a 5r5 with a 6r2? Same power. Potential to become 6r5? Yes and?
    I'm going to dedicate my phone battery to better things than arguing with the equivalent of a toddler's logic.
    Have a great weekend
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