Raids M.OD.O.K still over-tuned?

GasHaulerGasHauler Member Posts: 187 ★★
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I’ve tried different champs the last couple of Raid weeks, and this MODOK still just seems far too OP. One missed dex of his SP1 and I go from almost full health to KO. Barely able to get 1% of his health off. I really dislike him as the boss compared to Ultron

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  • GasHaulerGasHauler Member Posts: 187 ★★
    Terra said:

    I can routinely get in the 10% percentiles off of him.
    His whiff attack prompt is a bit annoying, but if you dodge his sp1 you can safely get 2 wiffs in.

    He's not overtuned, just annoying.
    Wise up, skill up, turn up.

    His sp1 isn't even that difficult

    Ok so we *must* be playing against different AI?
    Yeah I can dex his SP1, and have several times during fights. My point is, one slip up on the timing, or the AI is being super twitchy about moving and then throwing his SP1; or holding it, and waiting until he’s Unblockable, then dashing at me, stopping midway and throwing his SP1 to catch me while I’m already in the middle of dashing backward.

    I’m not a pro player, but I’m also not a novice. I don’t have all that much problem fighting Medusa or Guardian (and Thor Rags is super easy), but MODOK is still a royal pain. And I know I’m not the only one who feels that way.

    You say you routinely get 10%’s on him, well could you be so kind as to say who you’re using against him at least? I’m using OG Storm 7* R1 unduped for Assault role.
  • AlchemikasAlchemikas Member Posts: 4 ★
    GasHauler said:

    Terra said:

    I can routinely get in the 10% percentiles off of him.
    His whiff attack prompt is a bit annoying, but if you dodge his sp1 you can safely get 2 wiffs in.

    He's not overtuned, just annoying.
    Wise up, skill up, turn up.

    His sp1 isn't even that difficult

    Ok so we *must* be playing against different AI?
    Yeah I can dex his SP1, and have several times during fights. My point is, one slip up on the timing, or the AI is being super twitchy about moving and then throwing his SP1; or holding it, and waiting until he’s Unblockable, then dashing at me, stopping midway and throwing his SP1 to catch me while I’m already in the middle of dashing backward.

    I’m not a pro player, but I’m also not a novice. I don’t have all that much problem fighting Medusa or Guardian (and Thor Rags is super easy), but MODOK is still a royal pain. And I know I’m not the only one who feels that way.

    You say you routinely get 10%’s on him, well could you be so kind as to say who you’re using against him at least? I’m using OG Storm 7* R1 unduped for Assault role.
    Yeah, MODOK still feels a bit odd to fight against and its definitely easier after the nerf, but AI in general during August month have advanced affecting all game modes, I won’t even bother with the “lag” because thats a whole other topic.
    P.S. Modok SP1 seems off-timed, animation feels lagging-behind the actual damage hit or vice versa.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,502 ★★★★★
    It's just jittery broken AI paired with **** impulsive AI of MODOK

    So end result we get is random AI doing random things, throwing heavy from other side of screen to punching 2 time on block to throwing special on block "only when he's unblockable ofc" etc etc

    But I've just Vox, he was doing ok.
  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,438 ★★★★★
    GasHauler said:

    Terra said:

    I can routinely get in the 10% percentiles off of him.
    His whiff attack prompt is a bit annoying, but if you dodge his sp1 you can safely get 2 wiffs in.

    He's not overtuned, just annoying.
    Wise up, skill up, turn up.

    His sp1 isn't even that difficult

    Ok so we *must* be playing against different AI?
    Yeah I can dex his SP1, and have several times during fights. My point is, one slip up on the timing, or the AI is being super twitchy about moving and then throwing his SP1; or holding it, and waiting until he’s Unblockable, then dashing at me, stopping midway and throwing his SP1 to catch me while I’m already in the middle of dashing backward.

    I’m not a pro player, but I’m also not a novice. I don’t have all that much problem fighting Medusa or Guardian (and Thor Rags is super easy), but MODOK is still a royal pain. And I know I’m not the only one who feels that way.

    You say you routinely get 10%’s on him, well could you be so kind as to say who you’re using against him at least? I’m using OG Storm 7* R1 unduped for Assault role.
    Nick. Blade.
    Adam. Surfer.
    Iron-Man. Black Panther.
    Many options.
  • GasHaulerGasHauler Member Posts: 187 ★★
    007Bishop said:

    GasHauler said:

    007Bishop said:

    Your skill is under tuned

    You can go sit quietly in your room and reflect on what a mean-spirited person you are. If you can’t add anything constructive to someone’s post other than to try and make them feel bad about themselves, then don’t bother responding.
    Womp womp. I single-handedly took down the modok boss this week and if you are at least decent at the game, you wouldn't be womping your pants off on the forums 💀💀Got a good chuckle out of your comment lmfao
    Glad I could provide you with some humor. Happy for you that you’re just so much better than other people though. Enjoy that warm, tingly feeling you get down south from putting other people down.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,599 ★★★★★
    007Bishop said:

    Your skill is under tuned

    Not everyone is MSD level
  • LordSmasherLordSmasher Member Posts: 1,573 ★★★★★
    Terra said:

    GasHauler said:

    Terra said:

    I can routinely get in the 10% percentiles off of him.
    His whiff attack prompt is a bit annoying, but if you dodge his sp1 you can safely get 2 wiffs in.

    He's not overtuned, just annoying.
    Wise up, skill up, turn up.

    His sp1 isn't even that difficult

    Ok so we *must* be playing against different AI?
    Yeah I can dex his SP1, and have several times during fights. My point is, one slip up on the timing, or the AI is being super twitchy about moving and then throwing his SP1; or holding it, and waiting until he’s Unblockable, then dashing at me, stopping midway and throwing his SP1 to catch me while I’m already in the middle of dashing backward.

    I’m not a pro player, but I’m also not a novice. I don’t have all that much problem fighting Medusa or Guardian (and Thor Rags is super easy), but MODOK is still a royal pain. And I know I’m not the only one who feels that way.

    You say you routinely get 10%’s on him, well could you be so kind as to say who you’re using against him at least? I’m using OG Storm 7* R1 unduped for Assault role.
    Nick. Blade.
    Adam. Surfer.
    Iron-Man. Black Panther.
    Many options.
    What buff for Fury? Does he hit the cap?
  • victor158victor158 Member Posts: 166 ★★
    LordSmasher said:

    Terra said:

    GasHauler said:

    Terra said:

    I can routinely get in the 10% percentiles off of him.
    His whiff attack prompt is a bit annoying, but if you dodge his sp1 you can safely get 2 wiffs in.

    He's not overtuned, just annoying.
    Wise up, skill up, turn up.

    His sp1 isn't even that difficult

    Ok so we *must* be playing against different AI?
    Yeah I can dex his SP1, and have several times during fights. My point is, one slip up on the timing, or the AI is being super twitchy about moving and then throwing his SP1; or holding it, and waiting until he’s Unblockable, then dashing at me, stopping midway and throwing his SP1 to catch me while I’m already in the middle of dashing backward.

    I’m not a pro player, but I’m also not a novice. I don’t have all that much problem fighting Medusa or Guardian (and Thor Rags is super easy), but MODOK is still a royal pain. And I know I’m not the only one who feels that way.

    You say you routinely get 10%’s on him, well could you be so kind as to say who you’re using against him at least? I’m using OG Storm 7* R1 unduped for Assault role.
    Nick. Blade.
    Adam. Surfer.
    Iron-Man. Black Panther.
    Many options.
    What buff for Fury? Does he hit the cap?
    dot boost, it doesnt really matter for him tho, also he does hit cap but because his first life goes away on literally the first fight, u have the 'struggle' of playing at 30% for 80% of the future fights
  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,438 ★★★★★
    victor158 said:

    LordSmasher said:

    Terra said:

    GasHauler said:

    Terra said:

    I can routinely get in the 10% percentiles off of him.
    His whiff attack prompt is a bit annoying, but if you dodge his sp1 you can safely get 2 wiffs in.

    He's not overtuned, just annoying.
    Wise up, skill up, turn up.

    His sp1 isn't even that difficult

    Ok so we *must* be playing against different AI?
    Yeah I can dex his SP1, and have several times during fights. My point is, one slip up on the timing, or the AI is being super twitchy about moving and then throwing his SP1; or holding it, and waiting until he’s Unblockable, then dashing at me, stopping midway and throwing his SP1 to catch me while I’m already in the middle of dashing backward.

    I’m not a pro player, but I’m also not a novice. I don’t have all that much problem fighting Medusa or Guardian (and Thor Rags is super easy), but MODOK is still a royal pain. And I know I’m not the only one who feels that way.

    You say you routinely get 10%’s on him, well could you be so kind as to say who you’re using against him at least? I’m using OG Storm 7* R1 unduped for Assault role.
    Nick. Blade.
    Adam. Surfer.
    Iron-Man. Black Panther.
    Many options.
    What buff for Fury? Does he hit the cap?
    dot boost, it doesnt really matter for him tho, also he does hit cap but because his first life goes away on literally the first fight, u have the 'struggle' of playing at 30% for 80% of the future fights
    A slight caveat of Fury in Raids, he degens when above 30% health, so revives are less effective with him.
  • SyndicatedSyndicated Member Posts: 660 ★★★
    The biggest problem with that MODOK is that missions are really horrible to do, that's it
  • Grub88Grub88 Member Posts: 360 ★★★
    Man I have seen so many of the streamers stuff up on MODOK SP1 its just one of those nasty things in the game. Its a bit like the 3rd beam of maestros SP1 but you don't have the benefit of the first 2 beams to help with the timing. I've found that if you are all the way over the other side of the screen then it is easier to dex however it makes it harder to bait his specials and you just run out of time with the raid missions.
  • Tijjy007Tijjy007 Member Posts: 372 ★★★
    What reward do you get for defeating him?
  • 007Bishop007Bishop Member Posts: 501 ★★★
    GasHauler said:

    007Bishop said:

    GasHauler said:

    007Bishop said:

    Your skill is under tuned

    You can go sit quietly in your room and reflect on what a mean-spirited person you are. If you can’t add anything constructive to someone’s post other than to try and make them feel bad about themselves, then don’t bother responding.
    Womp womp. I single-handedly took down the modok boss this week and if you are at least decent at the game, you wouldn't be womping your pants off on the forums 💀💀Got a good chuckle out of your comment lmfao
    Glad I could provide you with some humor. Happy for you that you’re just so much better than other people though. Enjoy that warm, tingly feeling you get down south from putting other people down.
    You are most welcome
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,528 ★★★★★
    Grub88 said:

    Man I have seen so many of the streamers stuff up on MODOK SP1 its just one of those nasty things in the game. Its a bit like the 3rd beam of maestros SP1 but you don't have the benefit of the first 2 beams to help with the timing. I've found that if you are all the way over the other side of the screen then it is easier to dex however it makes it harder to bait his specials and you just run out of time with the raid missions.

    Maintain distance and it's very easy todex him
  • AlchemikasAlchemikas Member Posts: 4 ★
    Tijjy007 said:

    What reward do you get for defeating him?

    7500 7* shards for paragons+ I think
    Or 15k 6* shards for TBs and below
  • Vegeta9001Vegeta9001 Member Posts: 1,708 ★★★★★
    My alliance has started routinely taking in 7 free revives into next cycle again, find it round about the same as Ultron, maybe easier actually.
  • black_kill288black_kill288 Member Posts: 22 ★
    Alchemikas said:

    Tijjy007 said:

    What reward do you get for defeating him?

    7500 7* shards for paragons+ I think
    Or 15k 6* shards for TBs and below
    You guys get rewards??
    I've ko'ed him and didn't get anything. Or do you get the rewards once the raid ends?
  • Creeper_Man_81Creeper_Man_81 Member Posts: 43 ★
    black_kill288 said:

    Alchemikas said:

    Tijjy007 said:

    What reward do you get for defeating him?

    7500 7* shards for paragons+ I think
    Or 15k 6* shards for TBs and below
    You guys get rewards??
    I've ko'ed him and didn't get anything. Or do you get the rewards once the raid ends?
    You get it once the raids end
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