Crucible Ultron: he evades from my intercept attack while he's in mid-air throwing a knee. How??

Terminatrix

Somebody please explain? 😅

https://youtu.be/GFw7iIIxuOQ?si=u4hJmGCtGs5ah70u

EdisonLaw

He has a 7 sec timer before he evades.

13579rebel_

That's how Ultron Works

EdisonLaw

13579rebel_ said:

That's how Ultron Works

Yes he’s a machine, far beyond our understanding

Terminatrix

EdisonLaw said:

He has a 7 sec timer before he evades.

There's no timer anywhere on the screen, during this fight. He begins to evade while still in the air, lands, and continues to evade, even though I hit him. This should have been an intercept with armor break debuff on him.

Ourobøros

I'm going to use this post to refer to Ultron fight as well. I used Aarkus and the first time I apply the armor shatter it goes normal, the second time the duration seems to decrease and I lose the timing to apply it again and get hit

EdisonLaw

Terminatrix said:

EdisonLaw said:

He has a 7 sec timer before he evades.

There's no timer anywhere on the screen, during this fight. He begins to evade while still in the air, lands, and continues to evade, even though I hit him. This should have been an intercept with armor break debuff on him.

The timer is invisible. However if he evades even before 7 secs, that should be a bug as he’s only supposed to evade exactly every 7 seconds

EdisonLaw

Ourobøros said:

I'm going to use this post to refer to Ultron fight as well. I used Aarkus and the first time I apply the armor shatter it goes normal, the second time the duration seems to decrease and I lose the timing to apply it again and get hit

Probably a bug?

Herbal_Taxman

The timer is not invisible; this is the rarer Ultron. He just evades whenever and however he wants. Two different champs, the more common variety that’s been in the crystals forever is the one with the green timer.

Ourobøros

Herbal_Taxman said:

The timer is not invisible; this is the rarer Ultron. He just evades whenever and however he wants. Two different champs, the more common variety that’s been in the crystals forever is the one with the green timer.

Not however he wants, every 7 seconds

EdisonLaw

Herbal_Taxman said:

The timer is not invisible; this is the rarer Ultron. He just evades whenever and however he wants. Two different champs, the more common variety that’s been in the crystals forever is the one with the green timer.

Terminatrix

This was a full intercept and should have been a hit and an armor break on Ultron

Herbal_Taxman

Holy %#%, never knew invisible timers were a thing except for OG Vision. Makes sense, I suppose. Those two are the same dude, more or less. Thanks for the insight.

Furrymoosen

EdisonLaw said:

Terminatrix said:

EdisonLaw said:

He has a 7 sec timer before he evades.

There's no timer anywhere on the screen, during this fight. He begins to evade while still in the air, lands, and continues to evade, even though I hit him. This should have been an intercept with armor break debuff on him.

The timer is invisible. However if he evades even before 7 secs, that should be a bug as he’s only supposed to evade exactly every 7 seconds

He's been bugged for an incredibly long time then. I can't even count how many times I've had him evade multiple hits in a row or on back to back combos. For years he has been simply evading whenever he wants.

EdisonLaw

Furrymoosen said:

EdisonLaw said:

Terminatrix said:

EdisonLaw said:

He has a 7 sec timer before he evades.

There's no timer anywhere on the screen, during this fight. He begins to evade while still in the air, lands, and continues to evade, even though I hit him. This should have been an intercept with armor break debuff on him.

The timer is invisible. However if he evades even before 7 secs, that should be a bug as he’s only supposed to evade exactly every 7 seconds

He's been bugged for an incredibly long time then. I can't even count how many times I've had him evade multiple hits in a row or on back to back combos. For years he has been simply evading whenever he wants.

Maybe he’s evolved beyond Kabam’s programming

Ackbar67

This Ultron has a more complicated evade, and could benefit from increased HUD indicators. The way he has always worked, is that every 7 seconds he gains his evade, which lasts until it is triggered. You can think of it as an indefinite evade charge from something like Bullet Time that comes on a timer instead of stun triggers

BlackTuran

Ackbar67 said:

This Ultron has a more complicated evade, and could benefit from increased HUD indicators. The way he has always worked, is that every 7 seconds he gains his evade, which lasts until it is triggered. You can think of it as an indefinite evade charge from something like Bullet Time that comes on a timer instead of stun triggers

I noticed this recently actually: I was using an evade counter champ, don’t remember who exactly but I kept getting “evade failed” every single hit the entire fight, not just every 7 seconds

DarkNightRise

This is Ultron Drone, one of the most annoying with vague ability from Kabam. He even evade when face with Magneto! I don’t know is this a bug or what

Terminatrix

EdisonLaw said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

The timer is not invisible; this is the rarer Ultron. He just evades whenever and however he wants. Two different champs, the more common variety that’s been in the crystals forever is the one with the green timer.

So we have to do a mental countdown to the next evade?? Lmao. Smh

Terminatrix

Ackbar67 said:

This Ultron has a more complicated evade, and could benefit from increased HUD indicators. The way he has always worked, is that every 7 seconds he gains his evade, which lasts until it is triggered. You can think of it as an indefinite evade charge from something like Bullet Time that comes on a timer instead of stun triggers

It would help if there was a visible evade timer.

Darkraw346

Is it the first time u fight Classic Ultron or what?

spiderbites0196

Ourobøros said:

I'm going to use this post to refer to Ultron fight as well. I used Aarkus and the first time I apply the armor shatter it goes normal, the second time the duration seems to decrease and I lose the timing to apply it again and get hit

Aarkus’ armour shatter is based on the amount of armour breaks the opponent has. 5 seconds for each armour break. Since he doesn’t apply armour breaks when the opponent is shattered, the second armour shatter will only be 5 seconds.

BringPopcorn

Makes you wonder why people wanted that trophy champ uh?

Wolf911

use odin for that fight

parry heavy 2 3 times

get odin sleep active

throw sp1 then cycle sp2s

EdisonLaw

DarkNightRise said:

This is Ultron Drone, one of the most annoying with vague ability from Kabam. He even evade when face with Magneto! I don’t know is this a bug or what

This isn't an Ultron drone, this is Classic Ultron (or Labtron)

EdisonLaw

Ourobøros said:

I'm going to use this post to refer to Ultron fight as well. I used Aarkus and the first time I apply the armor shatter it goes normal, the second time the duration seems to decrease and I lose the timing to apply it again and get hit

The more armor breaks, the longer the armor shatter lasts

Toproller89

Labyrinth Ultron’s timer is invisible and he can evade mid attack just like a champ can also evade mid-attack if running the Nick Fury/Antman, quake synergy.

Nightheart

This Ultron doesn't have a timer on his evade unlike the other one so it's hard to say I think you should use Arkus or someone with strong armor breaks

Vegeta9001

It's always been the case,because when everyone else got updates to show their workings LolTron just got left collecting dust, hell we don't even have a 6* version yet. Still rocking his years old kit that is like a tweaked version of old AOU Ultron. Hopefully if he ever comes as a 6/7* we have a better and more visual kit.

Gridar

There are lots of problems with AI at this moment, but in this case there is nothing odd. This is how Ultron Classic works like in forever and is nothing out of ordinary evading your hit.

xLunatiXx

How can people can take you seriously as the "CM master" after this kind of post... Smh