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Nemesis_17

I’m midway through house of zemo which is my last ccp challenge and I need to finish in the next 6h before refills expire. Sadly my indecisive ahh brain can’t decide on who I want to take so imma just make a poll on it atp🤷.

captain_rogers

Select Double Starky

Select double s99😎.

Who would you r3 between massacre and sparky? That's who you gotta select, twice.

Emilia90

Select Double Starky

Unless you’re banking on an AG anytime soon. I already made a whole post about this but if you’re comfortable with his play style he’s so versatile and he nukes most stuff sub 40 for me. Pretty much covers every meta threat other than Maestro and Serpent for obvious reasons

Nemesis_17

captain_rogers said:

Select double s99😎.

captain_rogers said:

Who would you r3 between massacre and sparky? That's who you gotta select, twice.

I’d r2 both but idk if I’d r3 either of them tbf at least not yet. My next skill r3 is gonna be bullseye and next tech r3 will be guardian unless I pull red skull. Idk that I’d take starky up above either of those 2.

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Emilia90 said:

Unless you’re banking on an AG anytime soon. I already made a whole post about this but if you’re comfortable with his play style he’s so versatile and he nukes most stuff sub 40 for me. Pretty much covers every meta threat other than Maestro and Serpent for obvious reasons

Hard to know when we’re gonna get ags 🤷. And yea that was a great post. I wish he had some better block proficiency bc I feel like if I block a hit accidentally I’m instantly cooked lol. Not that he needs to be made any stronger.

captain_rogers

Select Double Starky

Nemesis_17 said:

captain_rogers said:

Select double s99😎.

captain_rogers said:

Who would you r3 between massacre and sparky? That's who you gotta select, twice.

I’d r2 both but idk if I’d r3 either of them tbf at least not yet. My next skill r3 is gonna be bullseye and next tech r3 will be guardian unless I pull red skull. Idk that I’d take starky up above either of those 2.

Starky is a big nuke. If your guardian is high sig take him up. Otherwise you're better with starky.

Wicket329

Select Double Masacre

I just made this same decision yesterday, and have no regrets choosing Masacre. The 7* tech pool has some great nuke options in Guardian, Shocker, Prowler, etc., but the 7* skill pool is kinda lacking. That’s why I went Masacre, and I do plan on taking him to r3.

Nemesis_17

captain_rogers said:

Nemesis_17 said:

captain_rogers said:

Select double s99😎.

captain_rogers said:

Who would you r3 between massacre and sparky? That's who you gotta select, twice.

I’d r2 both but idk if I’d r3 either of them tbf at least not yet. My next skill r3 is gonna be bullseye and next tech r3 will be guardian unless I pull red skull. Idk that I’d take starky up above either of those 2.

Starky is a big nuke. If your guardian is high sig take him up. Otherwise you're better with starky.

He’d be sig 40

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Wicket329 said:

I just made this same decision yesterday, and have no regrets choosing Masacre. The 7* tech pool has some great nuke options in Guardian, Shocker, Prowler, etc., but the 7* skill pool is kinda lacking. That’s why I went Masacre, and I do plan on taking him to r3.

Oh wow. This was an r2 with no cides? Damn did he just kill in one sp2 lol. How important would you say the dupe is for him, I know starky needs it quite a bit.

Edit: nvm stats said there were 2 sp2s but 146k each is no joke.

Cloudddey_bro

Select Double Starky

Starky. Unlike Masacre who can be slowed by energy resistance, starky can’t be slowed by pretty much any node. If there’s energy resist just spam sp1s. Cant go wrong with either tho imo but starky is just insane

Nemesis_17

Cloudddey_bro said:

Starky. Unlike Masacre who can be slowed by energy resistance, starky can’t be slowed by pretty much any node. If there’s energy resist just spam sp1s. Cant go wrong with either tho imo but starky is just insane

I think that only comes into play for metas like the current gc one tbh. As long as you’re not being punished for having the incinerates up you can afford to lose out on the damage from them since most of your damage is from the sp2

I do still agree that I think starky is more versatile tho

Viper198787

Select Double Starky

Depends on how much you focus on BGs. Sparky is definitely a meta relevant attacker whereas you never see Masacre anymore. Sparky can handle a wide range of defenders and can do it quickly. Also if you’re looking at metas, Sparky will be good for the current GC and crit me with your best shot where Masacre will probably not do as well on both.

captain_rogers

Select Double Starky

Viper198787 said:

Depends on how much you focus on BGs. Sparky is definitely a meta relevant attacker whereas you never see Masacre anymore. Sparky can handle a wide range of defenders and can do it quickly. Also if you’re looking at metas, Sparky will be good for the current GC and crit me with your best shot where Masacre will probably not do as well on both.

Yeah. Sparky can handle meta defenders like onslaught bullseye and photon, massacre isn't the best against these (maybe be works against photon)?

willrun4adonut

Select Double Starky

I took one of each, but now wished I had duped starky. I thought we would have gotten an awakening gem by now so my bad.

Nemesis_17

Viper198787 said:

Depends on how much you focus on BGs. Sparky is definitely a meta relevant attacker whereas you never see Masacre anymore. Sparky can handle a wide range of defenders and can do it quickly. Also if you’re looking at metas, Sparky will be good for the current GC and crit me with your best shot where Masacre will probably not do as well on both.

Masacre was a top 2 or 3 attacker last crit me because he’d crit through block and do a ton more damage than usual. This meta I agree tho he probably wouldn’t make the deck. I agree tho I never see Masacre anymore, but I don’t think it’s because he’s fallen off, I think it’s just due to so few people owning the 7*. I barely see starky and he most definitely hasn’t fallen off either.

Nemesis_17

willrun4adonut said:

I took one of each, but now wished I had duped starky. I thought we would have gotten an awakening gem by now so my bad.

Yea it would be quite handy right now to know how far out ags are. I have shocker as a tech who I also want to dupe so idek if I’d end up giving starky a tech gem if I got one.

Viper198787

Select Double Starky

Nemesis_17 said:

Viper198787 said:

Depends on how much you focus on BGs. Sparky is definitely a meta relevant attacker whereas you never see Masacre anymore. Sparky can handle a wide range of defenders and can do it quickly. Also if you’re looking at metas, Sparky will be good for the current GC and crit me with your best shot where Masacre will probably not do as well on both.

Masacre was a top 2 or 3 attacker last crit me because he’d crit through block and do a ton more damage than usual. This meta I agree tho he probably wouldn’t make the deck. I agree tho I never see Masacre anymore, but I don’t think it’s because he’s fallen off, I think it’s just due to so few people owning the 7*. I barely see starky and he most definitely hasn’t fallen off either.

I don’t remember Masacre being able to crit through block so if that’s true I guess that changes things. I just thought he got a massive attack boost. But I haven’t seen Masacre in anyone’s deck. I feel like I might be Sparky in about 4-5/10 decks. He’s definitely much more utilized.

Nemesis_17

Viper198787 said:

Nemesis_17 said:

Viper198787 said:

Depends on how much you focus on BGs. Sparky is definitely a meta relevant attacker whereas you never see Masacre anymore. Sparky can handle a wide range of defenders and can do it quickly. Also if you’re looking at metas, Sparky will be good for the current GC and crit me with your best shot where Masacre will probably not do as well on both.

Masacre was a top 2 or 3 attacker last crit me because he’d crit through block and do a ton more damage than usual. This meta I agree tho he probably wouldn’t make the deck. I agree tho I never see Masacre anymore, but I don’t think it’s because he’s fallen off, I think it’s just due to so few people owning the 7*. I barely see starky and he most definitely hasn’t fallen off either.

I don’t remember Masacre being able to crit through block so if that’s true I guess that changes things. I just thought he got a massive attack boost. But I haven’t seen Masacre in anyone’s deck. I feel like I might be Sparky in about 4-5/10 decks. He’s definitely much more utilized.

Yea I probably don’t play at high enough of a level in bgs (high gamma to low arcane) to see starky all that often. I still don’t think I’ve ever seen Masacre tho lol

Squidopus

Nemesis_17 said:

Viper198787 said:

Depends on how much you focus on BGs. Sparky is definitely a meta relevant attacker whereas you never see Masacre anymore. Sparky can handle a wide range of defenders and can do it quickly. Also if you’re looking at metas, Sparky will be good for the current GC and crit me with your best shot where Masacre will probably not do as well on both.

Masacre was a top 2 or 3 attacker last crit me because he’d crit through block and do a ton more damage than usual. This meta I agree tho he probably wouldn’t make the deck. I agree tho I never see Masacre anymore, but I don’t think it’s because he’s fallen off, I think it’s just due to so few people owning the 7*. I barely see starky and he most definitely hasn’t fallen off either.

I think you might be misremembering things; Masacre does not and never has been able to crit through block, even via synergies or the like. Not sure why he’d be particularly good in the crit me with your best shot meta besides very high base crit stats, which I’m not sure are enough alone to carry him in such a meta.

Squidopus

As someone who did pick double Masacre regardless, he’s plenty viable in bgs. You don’t have to get fancy with him at all with some complicated rotation, you just ignite his bat, inflict a few incinerates, and land a sp2 into block to delete opponents. For my r2 7* this is usually enough to kill an opponent in 30-40 seconds. He’s probably not better than Starky but if you just like Masacre more for whatever reason I wouldn’t say you’re shooting yourself in the foot so much as maybe stubbing your toe. Just pick whoever you’re more comfortable with.

Cloudddey_bro

Select Double Starky

Squidopus said:

Nemesis_17 said:

Viper198787 said:

Depends on how much you focus on BGs. Sparky is definitely a meta relevant attacker whereas you never see Masacre anymore. Sparky can handle a wide range of defenders and can do it quickly. Also if you’re looking at metas, Sparky will be good for the current GC and crit me with your best shot where Masacre will probably not do as well on both.

Masacre was a top 2 or 3 attacker last crit me because he’d crit through block and do a ton more damage than usual. This meta I agree tho he probably wouldn’t make the deck. I agree tho I never see Masacre anymore, but I don’t think it’s because he’s fallen off, I think it’s just due to so few people owning the 7*. I barely see starky and he most definitely hasn’t fallen off either.

I think you might be misremembering things; Masacre does not and never has been able to crit through block, even via synergies or the like. Not sure why he’d be particularly good in the crit me with your best shot meta besides very high base crit stats, which I’m not sure are enough alone to carry him in such a meta.

The node that gives all attackers the ability to have guranteed crits also makes all their blocked hits critical. So Masacre can Crit though block if you land an intercept

EdisonLaw

Select Double Starky

Depends on who you like

Squidopus

Cloudddey_bro said:

Squidopus said:

Nemesis_17 said:

Viper198787 said:

Depends on how much you focus on BGs. Sparky is definitely a meta relevant attacker whereas you never see Masacre anymore. Sparky can handle a wide range of defenders and can do it quickly. Also if you’re looking at metas, Sparky will be good for the current GC and crit me with your best shot where Masacre will probably not do as well on both.

Masacre was a top 2 or 3 attacker last crit me because he’d crit through block and do a ton more damage than usual. This meta I agree tho he probably wouldn’t make the deck. I agree tho I never see Masacre anymore, but I don’t think it’s because he’s fallen off, I think it’s just due to so few people owning the 7*. I barely see starky and he most definitely hasn’t fallen off either.

I think you might be misremembering things; Masacre does not and never has been able to crit through block, even via synergies or the like. Not sure why he’d be particularly good in the crit me with your best shot meta besides very high base crit stats, which I’m not sure are enough alone to carry him in such a meta.

The node that gives all attackers the ability to have guranteed crits also makes all their blocked hits critical. So Masacre can Crit though block if you land an intercept

Ah didn’t realize the guaranteed crit passive let you crit through block, I absolutely see why he’d be good then. That’s my mistake then.

Nemesis_17

Squidopus said:

Cloudddey_bro said:

Squidopus said:

Nemesis_17 said:

Viper198787 said:

Depends on how much you focus on BGs. Sparky is definitely a meta relevant attacker whereas you never see Masacre anymore. Sparky can handle a wide range of defenders and can do it quickly. Also if you’re looking at metas, Sparky will be good for the current GC and crit me with your best shot where Masacre will probably not do as well on both.

Masacre was a top 2 or 3 attacker last crit me because he’d crit through block and do a ton more damage than usual. This meta I agree tho he probably wouldn’t make the deck. I agree tho I never see Masacre anymore, but I don’t think it’s because he’s fallen off, I think it’s just due to so few people owning the 7*. I barely see starky and he most definitely hasn’t fallen off either.

I think you might be misremembering things; Masacre does not and never has been able to crit through block, even via synergies or the like. Not sure why he’d be particularly good in the crit me with your best shot meta besides very high base crit stats, which I’m not sure are enough alone to carry him in such a meta.

The node that gives all attackers the ability to have guranteed crits also makes all their blocked hits critical. So Masacre can Crit though block if you land an intercept

Ah didn’t realize the guaranteed crit passive let you crit through block, I absolutely see why he’d be good then. That’s my mistake then.

Yea basically what clouddey said, you just have to be sure to land an intercept before the sp2 obviously.

Nemesis_17

EdisonLaw said:

Depends on who you like

I find Masacre less stressful to play but starky is used more at competitive levels. This poll is pretty much a landslide for starky though.

EdisonLaw

Select Double Starky

Nemesis_17 said:

EdisonLaw said:

Depends on who you like

I find Masacre less stressful to play but starky is used more at competitive levels. This poll is pretty much a landslide for starky though.

Starky is riskier as his health is low, but you could run the block proficiency stat focus.

Viper198787

Select Double Starky

Squidopus said:

As someone who did pick double Masacre regardless, he’s plenty viable in bgs. You don’t have to get fancy with him at all with some complicated rotation, you just ignite his bat, inflict a few incinerates, and land a sp2 into block to delete opponents. For my r2 7* this is usually enough to kill an opponent in 30-40 seconds. He’s probably not better than Starky but if you just like Masacre more for whatever reason I wouldn’t say you’re shooting yourself in the foot so much as maybe stubbing your toe. Just pick whoever you’re more comfortable with.

I’m not sure why people don’t use him then. Even Lag who picked Masacre and Sparky has recently said he wishes he duped Sparky because he just never uses Masacre. I don’t know if influence from CCPs that tend to favor Sparky more or if he objectively really is the better champ, I just tend to see him more and hear more about him. If they ever end up making him available in some other way I’d definitely like to pick him up.

Cloudddey_bro

Select Double Starky

EdisonLaw said:

Nemesis_17 said:

EdisonLaw said:

Depends on who you like

I find Masacre less stressful to play but starky is used more at competitive levels. This poll is pretty much a landslide for starky though.

Starky is riskier as his health is low, but you could run the block proficiency stat focus.

He’s not that risky he has an evade for special attacks and you don’t want to block too much anyway with his playstyle. Just dex a couple times and melt

captain_rogers

Select Double Starky

Cloudddey_bro said:

EdisonLaw said:

Nemesis_17 said:

EdisonLaw said:

Depends on who you like

I find Masacre less stressful to play but starky is used more at competitive levels. This poll is pretty much a landslide for starky though.

Starky is riskier as his health is low, but you could run the block proficiency stat focus.

He’s not that risky he has an evade for special attacks and you don’t want to block too much anyway with his playstyle. Just dex a couple times and melt

But if you continuously dex there is a chance you may get hit, can be avoided with enough practice though.

Nemesis_17

EdisonLaw said:

Nemesis_17 said:

EdisonLaw said:

Depends on who you like

I find Masacre less stressful to play but starky is used more at competitive levels. This poll is pretty much a landslide for starky though.

Starky is riskier as his health is low, but you could run the block proficiency stat focus.

That’s a great point actually surprised I didn’t remember that.

Nemesis_17

Cloudddey_bro said:

EdisonLaw said:

Nemesis_17 said:

EdisonLaw said:

Depends on who you like

I find Masacre less stressful to play but starky is used more at competitive levels. This poll is pretty much a landslide for starky though.

Starky is riskier as his health is low, but you could run the block proficiency stat focus.

He’s not that risky he has an evade for special attacks and you don’t want to block too much anyway with his playstyle. Just dex a couple times and melt

His playstyle isn’t very supportive of skill issue summoners like myself😆