Counters will be coming, there will be soft ones, like buffed luke, enchantress and count nefaria, and there will be great counters, like shathra. It is well know in the next 12 months atleast 5-6 champs will have kits designed to counter some of the serpent's Abilities.
Still he is a very bad defender. This is not 2018 where they can release unfair defenders like domino and iceman and get away with it. Bgs doesn't exist back then and AW had freedom to choose the absolute best counters and absolute best player who can take out problematic defenders without giving a kill.
I really hope there wouldn't be another serpent situation (or even bullseye situation) in future.
Then keep using the ones that already work , they can do the fight easily enough y'all just don't want to learn , and like I said is easier to ask for a nerf
I wish Kabam would address the Serpent situation; it's very simple and straightforward to acknowledge.
People are a little happier after discovering Anti-Venom and Count Nefaria counter Serpent effectively.
Why can't Kabam just say "We didn't rebalance Serpent because counters are already planned and on-the-way, hence no reason to change him."?
By-the-way, genuine sentiment; not-trolling.
Because is a waste of time , everyone knows counters are coming, people just want to cry the nerf into existence, no matter what kabam say's they will always be mad
So we deserve to suffer through this broken defender for the time being just because there will be counters trivializing him in the future? I'm embarrassed by the fact that this "They will release counters" argument still exists. What are you gonna come up with next, "Just ban him" maybe?
I wish Kabam would address the Serpent situation; it's very simple and straightforward to acknowledge.
People are a little happier after discovering Anti-Venom and Count Nefaria counter Serpent effectively.
Why can't Kabam just say "We didn't rebalance Serpent because counters are already planned and on-the-way, hence no reason to change him."?
By-the-way, genuine sentiment; not-trolling.
Because is a waste of time , everyone knows counters are coming, people just want to cry the nerf into existence, no matter what kabam say's they will always be mad
So we deserve to suffer through this broken defender for the time being just because there will be counters trivializing him in the future? I'm embarrassed by the fact that this "They will release counters" argument still exists. What are you gonna come up with next, "Just ban him" maybe?
Just get gud and stop crying maybe that's a good one , maybe learn how to fight him how bout that one ? , do you really think he'll be the last busted defender, or your plan is to cry for every good defender to get nerfed for the rest of ur life
These three went to the BGs Tournament in Vancouver: They need to get git gud too even though they already are the top players in the world? Lmao stop being an NPC
They just want views , and they are smart for doing it , i don't believe none of these guy actually want him to get nerfed, why don't you post Andrew the ruff video too , just the guy that got C1 almost every time saying why serpent doesn't need a nerf
Well by your logic I don’t trust Andy at all because he just wants views, I don’t believe that he actually wants serpent to stay the same.
Andy was the only one that made a video to not nerf serpent meanwhile you can find like 10 videos complaining about serpent, the algorithm for views was for people that wanted him to get nerfed , y'all can barely talk to me without edging imagine watch a video explaining why he shouldn't get nerfed
So if you admit that the majority of people wanted him to be nerfed, and YouTubers are people, then why is it hard to believe that the majority of YouTubers genuinely want him to be nerfed?
Hell yeah just like I said I totally agree with those players is way easier to complain and ask for a nerf, but at the same there's several players that want the satisfaction of learning how to beat those champions , people that don't want the game to be boring and finish fights in 30 seconds just because they're using a busted attacker against a Garbo defender
We ask for nerf because no amount of skill can get around his abilities. I’ve learned every skill based mechanic I possibly can that would help against serpent. None of it matters because I can’t use my skill to get out of eating an sp3. There is no “get gud” against serpent, it’s “get lucky.”
You also conveniently skipped my question asking you what skill based mechanics we’re supposed to use against serpent when we don’t have a counter for him. Spoiler alert: there’s nothing.
Can't y'all see kabam is trying to game more enjoyable? And when say enjoyable I don't mean easier (boring) I mean really feeling like you got better at fighting a crazy good defender , hell we used to do labyrinth with 3 stars and now we are complaining about fight a 7* with other 7*
I wish Kabam would address the Serpent situation; it's very simple and straightforward to acknowledge.
People are a little happier after discovering Anti-Venom and Count Nefaria counter Serpent effectively.
Why can't Kabam just say "We didn't rebalance Serpent because counters are already planned and on-the-way, hence no reason to change him."?
By-the-way, genuine sentiment; not-trolling.
Because is a waste of time , everyone knows counters are coming, people just want to cry the nerf into existence, no matter what kabam say's they will always be mad
So we deserve to suffer through this broken defender for the time being just because there will be counters trivializing him in the future? I'm embarrassed by the fact that this "They will release counters" argument still exists. What are you gonna come up with next, "Just ban him" maybe?
I wish Kabam would address the Serpent situation; it's very simple and straightforward to acknowledge.
People are a little happier after discovering Anti-Venom and Count Nefaria counter Serpent effectively.
Why can't Kabam just say "We didn't rebalance Serpent because counters are already planned and on-the-way, hence no reason to change him."?
By-the-way, genuine sentiment; not-trolling.
Because is a waste of time , everyone knows counters are coming, people just want to cry the nerf into existence, no matter what kabam say's they will always be mad
So we deserve to suffer through this broken defender for the time being just because there will be counters trivializing him in the future? I'm embarrassed by the fact that this "They will release counters" argument still exists. What are you gonna come up with next, "Just ban him" maybe?
Just get gud and stop crying maybe that's a good one , maybe learn how to fight him how bout that one ? , do you really think he'll be the last busted defender, or your plan is to cry for every good defender to get nerfed for the rest of ur life
These three went to the BGs Tournament in Vancouver: They need to get git gud too even though they already are the top players in the world? Lmao stop being an NPC
They just want views , and they are smart for doing it , i don't believe none of these guy actually want him to get nerfed, why don't you post Andrew the ruff video too , just the guy that got C1 almost every time saying why serpent doesn't need a nerf
Well by your logic I don’t trust Andy at all because he just wants views, I don’t believe that he actually wants serpent to stay the same.
+ has a r3 awakened LMFAO
Ah yes, a perfectly objective source of information
THE best objective source of information, totally not influenced by feelings or just because it's convenient for him.
Counters will be coming, there will be soft ones, like buffed luke, enchantress and count nefaria, and there will be great counters, like shathra. It is well know in the next 12 months atleast 5-6 champs will have kits designed to counter some of the serpent's Abilities.
Still he is a very bad defender. This is not 2018 where they can release unfair defenders like domino and iceman and get away with it. Bgs doesn't exist back then and AW had freedom to choose the absolute best counters and absolute best player who can take out problematic defenders without giving a kill.
I really hope there wouldn't be another serpent situation (or even bullseye situation) in future.
Then keep using the ones that already work , they can do the fight easily enough y'all just don't want to learn , and like I said is easier to ask for a nerf
What's there to learn? Lmao. It's not like his specials are tough to dex like onslaught, or demand a specific game style to counter like enchantress. He just shuts down everything you have, while none of the champs counters him fully.
You basically have to hit him and barely do any damage. Outright can't do burst damage, also have high crit resistance. His specials are undexable unless you use a stagger or neutralize champ. And death immunity kills you altogether.
Maybe can you enlighten us with your interactions with him in bgs and Aw?
Can't y'all see kabam is trying to game more enjoyable? And when say enjoyable I don't mean easier (boring) I mean really feeling like you got better at fighting a crazy good defender , hell we used to do labyrinth with 3 stars and now we are complaining about fight a 7* with other 7*
I’ve explored all of necropolis. It was challenging but in a fun way.
Eating an sp3 in every other serpent fight is not fun.
Can't y'all see kabam is trying to game more enjoyable? And when say enjoyable I don't mean easier (boring) I mean really feeling like you got better at fighting a crazy good defender , hell we used to do labyrinth with 3 stars and now we are complaining about fight a 7* with other 7*
Can't you see 80% of the playerbase doesn't find Serpent enjoyable?
Also, you can't compare two different game modes like this to try to make a point. The pool of champs you can use on each is different, the nodes are too and so is everything else. You're reaching.
If kabam bow down to everyone that complains about a defender being too good the game is just dying, there's no future to a boring game
That is factually wrong, how many people complained about Bullseye Photon and Onslaught compared to Serpent? Not even close, there's a reason for that.
I hope kabam keep them coming more and more busted defenders , and I hope they're better than serpent , we are not the same all y'all see in one the best champs in the game is suffering, i see improvement I see how I can get better , but I do agree that is way easier to cry for a nerf , but I still go with getting better and learning new skills
Yeah because it’s a skill issue when we don’t pull one of 10 slightly reasonable counters, probably die because Serpent decided to hold still for 3 seconds after triggering death immunity and got sp3, and still lose the match even if we don’t die because a near max health kill with the optimal counters takes well over a minute no matter how well you play. I think an Arcade defensive buff is reasonable, I’m cool with hard defenders. Serpent isn’t hard so much as he just requires extremely specific answers, sometimes decides you die anyways, and wins you bg matches even if you play out of your mind unless your opponent very much doesn’t.
Arcade is alright on defense, as long as they don't use one of his hard counters like Vox or Angela
Counters will be coming, there will be soft ones, like buffed luke, enchantress and count nefaria, and there will be great counters, like shathra. It is well know in the next 12 months atleast 5-6 champs will have kits designed to counter some of the serpent's Abilities.
Still he is a very bad defender. This is not 2018 where they can release unfair defenders like domino and iceman and get away with it. Bgs doesn't exist back then and AW had freedom to choose the absolute best counters and absolute best player who can take out problematic defenders without giving a kill.
I really hope there wouldn't be another serpent situation (or even bullseye situation) in future.
Then keep using the ones that already work , they can do the fight easily enough y'all just don't want to learn , and like I said is easier to ask for a nerf
I feel like you're getting confused and thinking that most of the top brass players are constantly dying to Serpent and we just don’t know how to beat him yet. I assure you that while he earns his place as best defender in the game by claiming the most kills out of the current roster a good deal of players complaining about him have far greater than coinflip odds of beating him even if backed into an unideal matchup. Let us pick the champion we use to fight him, such as in a war context, and I’m sure that death rate drops even lower. The issue is that in bgs killing the defender isn’t the sufficient win condition it is in every other game mode, and that’s where most people have their issues with him as a design. He breaks the game mode there because he guarantees wins like no other. It’s not a skill issue, we just see the blatant problems in his kit.
I wish Kabam would address the Serpent situation; it's very simple and straightforward to acknowledge.
People are a little happier after discovering Anti-Venom and Count Nefaria counter Serpent effectively.
Why can't Kabam just say "We didn't rebalance Serpent because counters are already planned and on-the-way, hence no reason to change him."?
By-the-way, genuine sentiment; not-trolling.
Because is a waste of time , everyone knows counters are coming, people just want to cry the nerf into existence, no matter what kabam say's they will always be mad
So we deserve to suffer through this broken defender for the time being just because there will be counters trivializing him in the future? I'm embarrassed by the fact that this "They will release counters" argument still exists. What are you gonna come up with next, "Just ban him" maybe?
I wish Kabam would address the Serpent situation; it's very simple and straightforward to acknowledge.
People are a little happier after discovering Anti-Venom and Count Nefaria counter Serpent effectively.
Why can't Kabam just say "We didn't rebalance Serpent because counters are already planned and on-the-way, hence no reason to change him."?
By-the-way, genuine sentiment; not-trolling.
Because is a waste of time , everyone knows counters are coming, people just want to cry the nerf into existence, no matter what kabam say's they will always be mad
So we deserve to suffer through this broken defender for the time being just because there will be counters trivializing him in the future? I'm embarrassed by the fact that this "They will release counters" argument still exists. What are you gonna come up with next, "Just ban him" maybe?
Just get gud and stop crying maybe that's a good one , maybe learn how to fight him how bout that one ? , do you really think he'll be the last busted defender, or your plan is to cry for every good defender to get nerfed for the rest of ur life
These three went to the BGs Tournament in Vancouver: They need to get git gud too even though they already are the top players in the world? Lmao stop being an NPC
They just want views , and they are smart for doing it , i don't believe none of these guy actually want him to get nerfed, why don't you post Andrew the ruff video too , just the guy that got C1 almost every time saying why serpent doesn't need a nerf
So your argument in response to this is basically "I'm right cause I know what they're thinking more than they do themselves" 😂 are you really this dense or just arguing for the sake of arguing?
Beroman gets C1 consistently as well and he laughed at Kabam's decision too cause it is dumb. If you're here because of Andrew just say that and stop wasting everyone's time, had you mentioned you were one of Andrew's cronies from the start I wouldn't have replied in the first place cause the guy himself is a sarcastic troll and the fact he told everyone (including top BGs players) to "git gud" proves it.
Andrews cronies I just mentioned the only person that didn't asked for a nerf , now I became he biggest fan you know what am thinking more than I do now good job And you should defo git gud
Don't need to, I can already handle Serpent with a good draft: Doesn't change the fact I still think he's very unhealthy for the game for the reasons mentioned in those videos you claim were made for views. Stay inside that echo chamber I guess.
Conveniently ignores my reply where I show I can handle Serpent indeed with good draft RNG after telling me to git gud lmfao this guy's full of it.
Can't y'all see kabam is trying to game more enjoyable? And when say enjoyable I don't mean easier (boring) I mean really feeling like you got better at fighting a crazy good defender , hell we used to do labyrinth with 3 stars and now we are complaining about fight a 7* with other 7*
I’ve explored all of necropolis. It was challenging but in a fun way.
Eating an sp3 in every other serpent fight is not fun.
You don't have too bro what are you saying??? See that's what I mean y'all don't want to learn and y'all refuse to call it a skill , stop relying on dex and learn how to parry specials or use wiccan , rintrah and tigra if u want to dex , and for the sp3 all you need to do is save the relic and energy do a combo relic another combo and special and he'll be dead
White tiger is melting him super ez and she got the dope power gain to stall his Immortality, y'all acting like killing him is impossible but is definitely not
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You also conveniently skipped my question asking you what skill based mechanics we’re supposed to use against serpent when we don’t have a counter for him. Spoiler alert: there’s nothing.
You basically have to hit him and barely do any damage. Outright can't do burst damage, also have high crit resistance. His specials are undexable unless you use a stagger or neutralize champ. And death immunity kills you altogether.
Maybe can you enlighten us with your interactions with him in bgs and Aw?
Eating an sp3 in every other serpent fight is not fun.
Also, you can't compare two different game modes like this to try to make a point. The pool of champs you can use on each is different, the nodes are too and so is everything else. You're reaching.
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