It looks like Kabam isn't going to say anything until the end of the event. Probably because we're not going to like the answer.
What do you want them to say?
to admit their mistake and rectify it timely , that is before banquet ends
Didn’t you already see crashed say they did their job right. I swear they need their heads checked. 10 years was a big letdown. Now all the people who went all in for isophyne looks like they won’t get her. Gotta love good old kabam. We’ll do better next year and it was worse.
What do you mean wont get isophyne? We’re on the last milestone before isophyne and that milestone will be hit today soon. Then there is around 6 days to hit that one milestone to get her. Also this year had some let down but is no way can be considered worse.
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
There are way too many free units in the game, they needed a way to vacuum them... I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed. The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
There are not too many free units in the game. And even if there are that suddenly justify the multiple unit spending events in the year plus the ridiculous 7 star offers they've recently done.
You obviously have no idea how many units you can get for nothing but playing some arena and auto fighting low difficulty EQ. There's way more units than people realize, but if you don't grind for them, no kidding you won't get them.
I do know that there is a lot of units available in the game, but you have the wrong assumption about getting them. most of it are not available for free/doing nothing.
most are behind doing content that takes a LOT of time to do, even if you have a large roster and can auto monthly quest it's still hours of the day you are using to do that. arena takes concentration and a lot of time to do regularly. in addition we have seen a increase in the amount of units in the game very slowly but not anything major.
and on the first comment I replied too justifying high unit deals because there is more units is not a valid excuse. take the o.g. vision deals that essentially doubled in unit cost while the amount players get in games hasn't double talkless been increased by 50%.
First, it takes zero hours in the day to AUTO FIGHT low difficulty EQ. It takes 2 seconds to click the auto fight button.
Of course arena takes time. You get what you give, man. You expect everything for free? You get what you give. You want free units that don't cost money, you trade your time for them. Just like when you go to work, you trade your time for money, which if you want, you can spend on units. The choice is yours to make.
zero hours to auto low eq difficulty eh. ignoring the time the game is running on your phone and lets say 5 seconds to start a quest and path in auto fight. you're going to run out of energy and that will take time to add a new one unless you want to be constantly distracted by closing and opening the game to maximize the energy you have
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
There are way too many free units in the game, they needed a way to vacuum them... I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed. The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
There are not too many free units in the game. And even if there are that suddenly justify the multiple unit spending events in the year plus the ridiculous 7 star offers they've recently done.
You obviously have no idea how many units you can get for nothing but playing some arena and auto fighting low difficulty EQ. There's way more units than people realize, but if you don't grind for them, no kidding you won't get them.
I do know that there is a lot of units available in the game, but you have the wrong assumption about getting them. most of it are not available for free/doing nothing.
most are behind doing content that takes a LOT of time to do, even if you have a large roster and can auto monthly quest it's still hours of the day you are using to do that. arena takes concentration and a lot of time to do regularly. in addition we have seen a increase in the amount of units in the game very slowly but not anything major.
and on the first comment I replied too justifying high unit deals because there is more units is not a valid excuse. take the o.g. vision deals that essentially doubled in unit cost while the amount players get in games hasn't double talkless been increased by 50%.
First, it takes zero hours in the day to AUTO FIGHT low difficulty EQ. It takes 2 seconds to click the auto fight button.
Of course arena takes time. You get what you give, man. You expect everything for free? You get what you give. You want free units that don't cost money, you trade your time for them. Just like when you go to work, you trade your time for money, which if you want, you can spend on units. The choice is yours to make.
zero hours to auto low eq difficulty eh. ignoring the time the game is running on your phone and lets say 5 seconds to start a quest and path in auto fight. you're going to run out of energy and that will take time to add a new one unless you want to be constantly distracted by closing and opening the game to maximize the energy you have
I got no idea what you are yapping about... Look at the realm event, and a vid by Richtheman, seems like people spent a total of 3 billion units or something close to it. There was too many units in players account and that's probably another reason why this event was so bad.
It looks like Kabam isn't going to say anything until the end of the event. Probably because we're not going to like the answer.
What do you want them to say?
to admit their mistake and rectify it timely , that is before banquet ends
Didn’t you already see crashed say they did their job right. I swear they need their heads checked. 10 years was a big letdown. Now all the people who went all in for isophyne looks like they won’t get her. Gotta love good old kabam. We’ll do better next year and it was worse.
You mean mystic gambit? Because pay attention to all the hype with her ending fights with a crit… she’s gonna be slow if the crits don’t happen.
Don’t get me wrong neither is a bad champion but there’s a reason that gambit with all his useful abilities isn’t a meta champ.
Now that time has gone by, part of me says the event wasn't great so people shouldn't have invested any units. Doesn't stop people being upset about the event not meeting the expectations set. Either way in the business world, Kabam have delivered a product, it's up to the consumers... Us to determine whether we buy it or not. Seems lots of people have, or used grinded units. I doubt there is much they will do now, if they reach their revenue figures it's a success. If not they will do something different next time.
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
There are way too many free units in the game, they needed a way to vacuum them... I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed. The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
There are not too many free units in the game. And even if there are that suddenly justify the multiple unit spending events in the year plus the ridiculous 7 star offers they've recently done.
You obviously have no idea how many units you can get for nothing but playing some arena and auto fighting low difficulty EQ. There's way more units than people realize, but if you don't grind for them, no kidding you won't get them.
I do know that there is a lot of units available in the game, but you have the wrong assumption about getting them. most of it are not available for free/doing nothing.
most are behind doing content that takes a LOT of time to do, even if you have a large roster and can auto monthly quest it's still hours of the day you are using to do that. arena takes concentration and a lot of time to do regularly. in addition we have seen a increase in the amount of units in the game very slowly but not anything major.
and on the first comment I replied too justifying high unit deals because there is more units is not a valid excuse. take the o.g. vision deals that essentially doubled in unit cost while the amount players get in games hasn't double talkless been increased by 50%.
First, it takes zero hours in the day to AUTO FIGHT low difficulty EQ. It takes 2 seconds to click the auto fight button.
Of course arena takes time. You get what you give, man. You expect everything for free? You get what you give. You want free units that don't cost money, you trade your time for them. Just like when you go to work, you trade your time for money, which if you want, you can spend on units. The choice is yours to make.
zero hours to auto low eq difficulty eh. ignoring the time the game is running on your phone and lets say 5 seconds to start a quest and path in auto fight. you're going to run out of energy and that will take time to add a new one unless you want to be constantly distracted by closing and opening the game to maximize the energy you have
You're gonna whine about how it takes a few seconds here and there to start a new path etc... that's a you thing, dude. Either do that, spend money, or don't whine when you don't have units for events. Simple as that.
I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but unless you're chasing after something specific, the GBCs are cheaper, and the same as they were last year. More satisfaction than Frags all the time.
I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but unless you're chasing after something specific, the GBCs are cheaper, and the same as they were last year. More satisfaction than Frags all the time.
The GBC's are 50 units cheaper and give you rank up materials for 6*'s. Why would anybody ever buy those over SBC?
I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but unless you're chasing after something specific, the GBCs are cheaper, and the same as they were last year. More satisfaction than Frags all the time.
The GBC's are 50 units cheaper and give you rank up materials for 6*'s. Why would anybody ever buy those over SBC?
Same reason why this event was labeled as the "Best banquet ever"... Nonsense
I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but unless you're chasing after something specific, the GBCs are cheaper, and the same as they were last year. More satisfaction than Frags all the time.
The GBC's are 50 units cheaper and give you rank up materials for 6*'s. Why would anybody ever buy those over SBC?
You get a chance at the rare Champions, you don't have to be inundated with T6CC Frags, and you can pull other things besides 6* Mats. Also, you do realize we still have 6* Champions in the game, right?
I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but unless you're chasing after something specific, the GBCs are cheaper, and the same as they were last year. More satisfaction than Frags all the time.
The GBC's are 50 units cheaper and give you rank up materials for 6*'s. Why would anybody ever buy those over SBC?
You get a chance at the rare Champions, you don't have to be inundated with T6CC Frags, and you can pull other things besides 6* Mats. Also, you do realize we still have 6* Champions in the game, right?
OK, let me break this down for you. In SBC you have a chance at rare champions. T6cc frags are far better than t5cc frags, and a whole lot more expensive to buy in the stores too. Why would I want to rank up 6*'s at this point, when I have every 6* in the game I want ranked up, already? And if I don't have the 6* ranked, it's literally because I have the 7*.
Even for TB players, buying GBC is pointless when they can superpower their accounts with 7* and 6r4/5 materials.
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
There are way too many free units in the game, they needed a way to vacuum them... I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed. The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
There are not too many free units in the game. And even if there are that suddenly justify the multiple unit spending events in the year plus the ridiculous 7 star offers they've recently done.
You obviously have no idea how many units you can get for nothing but playing some arena and auto fighting low difficulty EQ. There's way more units than people realize, but if you don't grind for them, no kidding you won't get them.
I do know that there is a lot of units available in the game, but you have the wrong assumption about getting them. most of it are not available for free/doing nothing.
most are behind doing content that takes a LOT of time to do, even if you have a large roster and can auto monthly quest it's still hours of the day you are using to do that. arena takes concentration and a lot of time to do regularly. in addition we have seen a increase in the amount of units in the game very slowly but not anything major.
and on the first comment I replied too justifying high unit deals because there is more units is not a valid excuse. take the o.g. vision deals that essentially doubled in unit cost while the amount players get in games hasn't double talkless been increased by 50%.
First, it takes zero hours in the day to AUTO FIGHT low difficulty EQ. It takes 2 seconds to click the auto fight button.
Of course arena takes time. You get what you give, man. You expect everything for free? You get what you give. You want free units that don't cost money, you trade your time for them. Just like when you go to work, you trade your time for money, which if you want, you can spend on units. The choice is yours to make.
zero hours to auto low eq difficulty eh. ignoring the time the game is running on your phone and lets say 5 seconds to start a quest and path in auto fight. you're going to run out of energy and that will take time to add a new one unless you want to be constantly distracted by closing and opening the game to maximize the energy you have
You're gonna whine about how it takes a few seconds here and there to start a new path etc... that's a you thing, dude. Either do that, spend money, or don't whine when you don't have units for events. Simple as that.
i didn't complain about not having units for the event, i spent what i had and was disappointed with how the event was. but aside from that, because units are farmable with time doesn't suddenly make them passively generated. and also doesn't then support an greatly increasing price in unit deals just because we are getting 100 units extra.
It's not about me or a specific person having gaining units compared to spenders but the game team making events with units costs that doesn't even reflect what is available in the game
T6CC Frags are readily available for those of us at the Valiant level. With a Thread full of people complaining the value isn't worth 300 Units, that puts a hole in your logic. The fact remains, last year felt more rewarding because the pulls felt more worth it. In any event, it's just a suggestion. People can do whatever they want. Personally I'm still pulling SBCs, but I considered it. It still stands to reason that I could spend 250 Units and get something I can use somewhere than to spend 300 Units and get more of something I'm up to my pits in, if my RNG is swaying that way. Unless the logic is people swearing off 6*s on principle. Then I can't get behind that. Never have.
As some others have pointed out, there’s a structural problem with the event.
SBCs cost 300 units, yet the vast majority of the materials in the crystal are understood by players to be worth far, far less than 300 units.
If your game economy rules / reward budget (whatever they may be), don’t allow you to tune the crystals so players feel they receive fair value after buying a couple dozen crystals and getting statistically average pulls, then maybe it’s time to rethink the event. Maybe there’s another way for us to spend units / $ while doing something other than open crystals to earn milestones.
What that would be, I have no idea. But the current format feels like it’s run out of gas. Maybe it’s time to blow it up and imagine an entirely new kind of event.
There are way too many free units in the game, they needed a way to vacuum them... I am not talking about the units you can get for free; but the ones already farmed. The biggest mistake they made and I will keep pointing this out cause its annoying af, is that they rewarded a bunch of unit farming TBs that refuse to spend units on revives to beat GM and keep moving on. They decided to pair them with Paragon and Valiants and reward them.
There are not too many free units in the game. And even if there are that suddenly justify the multiple unit spending events in the year plus the ridiculous 7 star offers they've recently done.
You obviously have no idea how many units you can get for nothing but playing some arena and auto fighting low difficulty EQ. There's way more units than people realize, but if you don't grind for them, no kidding you won't get them.
I do know that there is a lot of units available in the game, but you have the wrong assumption about getting them. most of it are not available for free/doing nothing.
most are behind doing content that takes a LOT of time to do, even if you have a large roster and can auto monthly quest it's still hours of the day you are using to do that. arena takes concentration and a lot of time to do regularly. in addition we have seen a increase in the amount of units in the game very slowly but not anything major.
and on the first comment I replied too justifying high unit deals because there is more units is not a valid excuse. take the o.g. vision deals that essentially doubled in unit cost while the amount players get in games hasn't double talkless been increased by 50%.
First, it takes zero hours in the day to AUTO FIGHT low difficulty EQ. It takes 2 seconds to click the auto fight button.
Of course arena takes time. You get what you give, man. You expect everything for free? You get what you give. You want free units that don't cost money, you trade your time for them. Just like when you go to work, you trade your time for money, which if you want, you can spend on units. The choice is yours to make.
zero hours to auto low eq difficulty eh. ignoring the time the game is running on your phone and lets say 5 seconds to start a quest and path in auto fight. you're going to run out of energy and that will take time to add a new one unless you want to be constantly distracted by closing and opening the game to maximize the energy you have
You're gonna whine about how it takes a few seconds here and there to start a new path etc... that's a you thing, dude. Either do that, spend money, or don't whine when you don't have units for events. Simple as that.
i didn't complain about not having units for the event, i spent what i had and was disappointed with how the event was. but aside from that, because units are farmable with time doesn't suddenly make them passively generated. and also doesn't then support an greatly increasing price in unit deals just because we are getting 100 units extra.
It's not about me or a specific person having gaining units compared to spenders but the game team making events with units costs that doesn't even reflect what is available in the game
There are way more units on people accounts than what you think. You know what happens when there is too much of a currency going around? It loses value. Which fits perfectly with the crystals being so terrible... The reason why the deals and everything else goes up too is because there is too many units. At this point I wouldn't be suprised if Kabam introduced a new currency...
This the bad taste from this event is so bad it’s driven me to play arena! That’s how bad it is that I’m now doing arena, frickin arena, instead of paying for an Odin to get a chunk of units. I think calling for boycotts is over the top, but I’m personally not going to spend money at the moment on the game. Like most years, the Christmas unit deals especially from the online store is pretty good. But nope, I’m disgruntled and this is my way of giving feedback. Whales are still gonna whale so my little holding back on my guppy spending may not make a difference to kabam, but it makes me feel better.
I was adding up all the events milestone rewards last night and realized the Realm rewards had the best rewards event without the late additions of two 7 star crystals and a 7 star nexus. That doesn't make sense for an event that was a bonus cherry on top. As an example, there were 30k 7 star shards from solo and alliance combined but realm had 30k shards alone. This is a long thread and this may already be mentioned.
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Look at the realm event, and a vid by Richtheman, seems like people spent a total of 3 billion units or something close to it. There was too many units in players account and that's probably another reason why this event was so bad.
Don’t get me wrong neither is a bad champion but there’s a reason that gambit with all his useful abilities isn’t a meta champ.
Either do that, spend money, or don't whine when you don't have units for events.
Simple as that.
Why would anybody ever buy those over SBC?
In SBC you have a chance at rare champions.
T6cc frags are far better than t5cc frags, and a whole lot more expensive to buy in the stores too.
Why would I want to rank up 6*'s at this point, when I have every 6* in the game I want ranked up, already?
And if I don't have the 6* ranked, it's literally because I have the 7*.
Even for TB players, buying GBC is pointless when they can superpower their accounts with 7* and 6r4/5 materials.
but aside from that, because units are farmable with time doesn't suddenly make them passively generated. and also doesn't then support an greatly increasing price in unit deals just because we are getting 100 units extra.
It's not about me or a specific person having gaining units compared to spenders but the game team making events with units costs that doesn't even reflect what is available in the game
The fact remains, last year felt more rewarding because the pulls felt more worth it.
In any event, it's just a suggestion. People can do whatever they want. Personally I'm still pulling SBCs, but I considered it. It still stands to reason that I could spend 250 Units and get something I can use somewhere than to spend 300 Units and get more of something I'm up to my pits in, if my RNG is swaying that way.
Unless the logic is people swearing off 6*s on principle. Then I can't get behind that. Never have.
The reason why the deals and everything else goes up too is because there is too many units.
At this point I wouldn't be suprised if Kabam introduced a new currency...
What are you talking about? We're absolutely on pace to clear the isophyne dupe milestone with time to spare.
Last banquet they convinced me not to spend $ on banquet. This banquet they convinced me that next year would be a waste of my units for banquet.
Idk what message they thought they were sending but "banquet is dog water and not worth your time and effort" is the message I received.