Carina’s Challengers/Cul’s Worthy Challenge

Emilia90

I knocked both of these out yesterday and I thought I’d make a mini guide with my experience

Carina’s Challengers:
7* r2 Guilly 2099
6* r3 void
7* r2 Howard
7* r1 Shang
7* r1 Hawkeye

Jubilee (solo): 2099 and played super defensively. Ignored her node and regularly pushed her to sp3 and power drained with the sp1

Ibom (1 revive): I kinda forget how to play this fight, you don’t wanna get his acid thing on you and I thought baiting his sp2 was better. The block damage really adds up though but it’s possible to solo this (2099)

Diablo (2 revives): Brought void for this and he cooked even as a r3 and brought him to half health. Unfortunately I could have soloed but I was playing his potion game wrong and forgot to consume the potion so I wouldn’t take damage. Brought Howard in and finished him off. 2099 can solo this but I didn’t wanna sit there for 9 mins lol

Squirrel girl (1 revive): Make sure to knock her down when the timer expires or you’ll take a good bit of rupture damage. Also messed up here and didn’t knock her down in time at 4% and the rupture took 2099 out

Silver Centurion (solo): Very simple fight. Hold block and spam sp1, I didn’t even let him use a special and the damage ramps up fast (2099)

Spidey 2099 (1 team revive): If you have a strong skill champ, this is where to use them. I threw Hawkeye and Shang at him and they chipped away 40%. Threw Guilly at him and she did another 20%, then I revived them and did it again. If you have a r3 Shang or Hawkeye (somehow) I’d bring them. Best option here is CB imo so a r3 could probably solo

Sunspot (2 shot): Howard got him to 40% before I missed the so dex so I just took 2099 in and killed him. Easy fight

4 lv2 revives and 1 team revive

Recommend team:
Guilly 2099
Void (higher ranked than mine)
CB/Shang
Anyone else for the last 2


God/Culs Worthy:
6* r5A Serpent
6* r5A Abs
7* r3 Hulk
7* r2 Titania
6* r5A Herc

If you have a 7* r3 serpent or Odin at r2 or 3 this should be a breeze. Unfortunately it’s much harder with a r5 due to the timer

Titania (1 revive): Spammed sp1 into her block with serpent at got her to 40%. Once you lose the charges it’s hard though so I quit out to keep the dread

Aarkus (1 revive): This can be soloed with Abs but the AI has to cooperate. He goes to sp3 fast so just pray he doesn’t screw you over here

Omega Sentinel (2 revives): Serpent does a ton to her, unfortunately charges are still an issue and the incinerates get annoying

Air Walker (solo): Abs destroyed him. I stayed in the sp1 form to spam sp easier, just kept knocking him down

Cap Britain (1 revive): Nothing notable here, just spammed sp1 with serpent until the charges ran out

Wiccan (1 revive): I took Hulk in first and he took a ton of health off (30% in one cycle) but the AI wasn’t cooperating and used an sp3. Titania came in and she really impressed me. Took 60% off with my r2 and I ate multiple sp3. Could easily stagger the regen too or block it out on demand. Revived hulk back up and finished him off

Psycho Man (1 revive): Another sp1 spam fiesta with serpent. Play his little game and you’re good to go

7 lv 2 revives for this one. If you have a 7* r2/3 Odin or Serpent you should be able to solo a lot of these. I know that Odin destroys Titania and Cap Britain

Recommended team:
Odin
Serpent
Abs
Titania
(Anyone here, I’d say Hulk to double team Wiccan)

Now the dilemma is whether I spend some units to get the key in the ally milestones for banquet or finish up carinas

captain_rogers

Did you used assault pre fight in any of the fights (5% power burn). Also what's the rotation with shang? Saving up for big sp2 Or throwing it whenever you can? And how to manage s99 power gain?

Average_Desi

captain_rogers said:

Did you used assault pre fight in any of the fights (5% power burn). Also what's the rotation with shang? Saving up for big sp2 Or throwing it whenever you can? And how to manage s99 power gain?

Assault power drain is useless. It reduces the amount of Regen you get as well as the amount of power you drain on your sp1. Also reduces the armour rating. Overall a horrible idea

captain_rogers

Yeah IK but mcoc noob recommended it for all fights and while I'm good at reparrying I'm not good at doing 4 combos and hold back so that's why I thought it maybe usefl.

SirGamesBond

What carinas are left?
I won't recommend to throw units on carinas. We have a lot of time before we gets to dupe she-hulk and then get Thanos and then do the final deathless run. Decent amount of time in our hands to build up stash to knock carinas.

I have kept 12 revives from easy crucible as a backup, I may run it when they will announce the DThanos acquisition.

Get the key first. We plebs have to wait a whole year before we gets another shot at those 6 champs.

PT_99

For anyone not having high sig void or struggling with Diablo potions missions,

I'd suggest just your 6* OG Gulltoine, she got very strong heal reversal on sp2 and she also heals from every heal reversed on Diablo, like a lot of healing (can go from 10 to 100% in blink of eye)
This way you don't have to worry about Diablo giving you random damage, just hit hit, spam sp2, watch him die to his own healings.

For anyone not having Serpent, just relax, Abs man and Odin are enough, yes these 2 are enough, absman can even take Wiccan in magma form and Odin's prefights and Odin just spam sp2 and each hit takes away 5-7% HP 💯

SirGamesBond

Well r2 moleman absolutely nuked s99.
I got lucky and knocked him off in 1 revive.

Emilia90

captain_rogers said:

Did you used assault pre fight in any of the fights (5% power burn). Also what's the rotation with shang? Saving up for big sp2 Or throwing it whenever you can? And how to manage s99 power gain?

I didn’t use any prefights. If you’re bad at the 4 combos I’d say it’s worth it but otherwise it’s useless and like he said it’s less regen too. And for 2099 the power gain never got too crazy, I think you just have to bait the sp1 and take one hit into block and you’re good, it doesn’t do that much even to a r1 Shang or Hawkeye

For Shang I built up about 10 charges per sp2 and just kept firing it, did about 3-4% each which was nice for a r1

PT_99

captain_rogers said:

Did you used assault pre fight in any of the fights (5% power burn). Also what's the rotation with shang? Saving up for big sp2 Or throwing it whenever you can? And how to manage s99 power gain?

Don't use any prefigts, just MLLL, hold block, bait, MLLLM sp1 spam, that's it, never ever let AI use specials as guill-99 and soon your combo will go up and enemy will melt.

I'd suggest CrossChads for spidey-99, if you can manage his furies, which is quite easy, just punish special with heavy, then you can stack lots of furies and keep spamming sp3
Reaching sp3 is fast thanks to overrun buff.

Honestly other than Dimensional beings, this whole Necro challenge is straightforward and tests skills but F that dimensional challenge, total ass

SirGamesBond

Average_Desi said:

captain_rogers said:

Did you used assault pre fight in any of the fights (5% power burn). Also what's the rotation with shang? Saving up for big sp2 Or throwing it whenever you can? And how to manage s99 power gain?

Assault power drain is useless. It reduces the amount of Regen you get as well as the amount of power you drain on your sp1. Also reduces the armour rating. Overall a horrible idea

Damn. I used that prefight a lot in my act6 runs with the 5*

Emilia90

SirGamesBond said:

What carinas are left?
I won't recommend to throw units on carinas. We have a lot of time before we gets to dupe she-hulk and then get Thanos and then do the final deathless run. Decent amount of time in our hands to build up stash to knock carinas.

I have kept 12 revives from easy crucible as a backup, I may run it when they will announce the DThanos acquisition.

Get the key first. We plebs have to wait a whole year before we gets another shot at those 6 champs.

I have the dimensional being one left. Probably the biggest sink. I don’t grind revives or units that often but I have enough to get it done I think

The guaranteed rewards for carina’s are enticing, I could get the key now and grind the units back up later but the key could also be a sentry lol. I wouldn’t be able to get any of them awakened anyway unfortunately (unless I use the class gem ofc)

Average_Desi

SirGamesBond said:

Average_Desi said:

captain_rogers said:

Did you used assault pre fight in any of the fights (5% power burn). Also what's the rotation with shang? Saving up for big sp2 Or throwing it whenever you can? And how to manage s99 power gain?

Assault power drain is useless. It reduces the amount of Regen you get as well as the amount of power you drain on your sp1. Also reduces the armour rating. Overall a horrible idea

Damn. I used that prefight a lot in my act6 runs with the 5*

I mean, it's a good idea in act 6. Back then. Not in necro

SirGamesBond

Emilia90 said:

SirGamesBond said:

What carinas are left?
I won't recommend to throw units on carinas. We have a lot of time before we gets to dupe she-hulk and then get Thanos and then do the final deathless run. Decent amount of time in our hands to build up stash to knock carinas.

I have kept 12 revives from easy crucible as a backup, I may run it when they will announce the DThanos acquisition.

Get the key first. We plebs have to wait a whole year before we gets another shot at those 6 champs.

I have the dimensional being one left. Probably the biggest sink. I don’t grind revives or units that often but I have enough to get it done I think

The guaranteed rewards for carina’s are enticing, I could get the key now and grind the units back up later but the key could also be a sentry lol. I wouldn’t be able to get any of them awakened anyway unfortunately (unless I use the class gem ofc)

It can be the one you want. Gamble away on a guaranteed 7*

I used fam starting from shang till sunspot. Fight style? Like g99, control power and don't let them throw specials, baiting a couple specials here and there won't hurt. It costed me about 15 revives. Fam carried the run.

Pikolu

Average_Desi said:

captain_rogers said:

Did you used assault pre fight in any of the fights (5% power burn). Also what's the rotation with shang? Saving up for big sp2 Or throwing it whenever you can? And how to manage s99 power gain?

Assault power drain is useless. It reduces the amount of Regen you get as well as the amount of power you drain on your sp1. Also reduces the armour rating. Overall a horrible idea

I used that one for Jubilee since it makes it really easy to just do MLLLM combos and she never gets to sp3. Saves me a lot of block damage since I am not consistent with reparries. She's the only fight I would recommend using a prefight since the other ones are easy enough without prefights.

Sceptilemaniac2

Is there a reason for not using serpent's sp3 in the titania fight?
He ramps up wayyyyy faster.

willrun4adonut

Average_Desi said:

captain_rogers said:

Did you used assault pre fight in any of the fights (5% power burn). Also what's the rotation with shang? Saving up for big sp2 Or throwing it whenever you can? And how to manage s99 power gain?

Assault power drain is useless. It reduces the amount of Regen you get as well as the amount of power you drain on your sp1. Also reduces the armour rating. Overall a horrible idea

I used assault pre fight for silver centurion. While I agree it's normally a terrible idea, the idea wasn't terrible for SC.

@Pikolu u used it on Jubs but not SC? I found Jubs easy to manage with just sp1, but SC i don't think I could have done it with the prefight.

Oakenshield

Thanks @Emilia90 - I’m probably going to be running this one in the next few days so appreciate your write up. A question for you: I’m planning to run with 7* R2 G2099, 7* R3 Warlock, 7* R2 Shang Chi, 6*R5A Void, and one more. I’m debating between a 6* R4A Moleman (who I have heard makes the S2099 fight not too bad) or a 7* R2 Sig 20 Crossbones. I’m leaning towards Crossbones, but I’ll admit I’m not great at keeping his furies up. So keep going back and forth between him and Moleman.

Any advice you can offer?

willrun4adonut

Oakenshield said:

Thanks @Emilia90 - I’m probably going to be running this one in the next few days so appreciate your write up. A question for you: I’m planning to run with 7* R2 G2099, 7* R3 Warlock, 7* R2 Shang Chi, 6*R5A Void, and one more. I’m debating between a 6* R4A Moleman (who I have heard makes the S2099 fight not too bad) or a 7* R2 Sig 20 Crossbones. I’m leaning towards Crossbones, but I’ll admit I’m not great at keeping his furies up. So keep going back and forth between him and Moleman.

Any advice you can offer?

I ran crossbones at 7r2, sign 72 I believe. I found him hard to use, and wish I had taken moleman instead. Just remember that 6* have less time for vengeance charges than 7*.

Average_Desi

Pikolu said:

Average_Desi said:

captain_rogers said:

Did you used assault pre fight in any of the fights (5% power burn). Also what's the rotation with shang? Saving up for big sp2 Or throwing it whenever you can? And how to manage s99 power gain?

Assault power drain is useless. It reduces the amount of Regen you get as well as the amount of power you drain on your sp1. Also reduces the armour rating. Overall a horrible idea

I used that one for Jubilee since it makes it really easy to just do MLLLM combos and she never gets to sp3. Saves me a lot of block damage since I am not consistent with reparries. She's the only fight I would recommend using a prefight since the other ones are easy enough without prefights.

Jubilee I was able to solo with a r1 unboosted g99.(On a trial run, ofcourse), .it was very close so any less armour or Regen would've resulted in my death.

And for me I'd rather take the specials into block and not risk the dex and die. More Armour means more blocking .

Oakenshield

willrun4adonut said:

Oakenshield said:

Thanks @Emilia90 - I’m probably going to be running this one in the next few days so appreciate your write up. A question for you: I’m planning to run with 7* R2 G2099, 7* R3 Warlock, 7* R2 Shang Chi, 6*R5A Void, and one more. I’m debating between a 6* R4A Moleman (who I have heard makes the S2099 fight not too bad) or a 7* R2 Sig 20 Crossbones. I’m leaning towards Crossbones, but I’ll admit I’m not great at keeping his furies up. So keep going back and forth between him and Moleman.

Any advice you can offer?

I ran crossbones at 7r2, sign 72 I believe. I found him hard to use, and wish I had taken moleman instead. Just remember that 6* have less time for vengeance charges than 7*.

Thanks @willrun4adonut - appreciate it. I’m unlikely to solo the fight so just looking for the easiest way to whittle him down with the least number of revives. So, the 6* shorter timer should probably isn’t going to be a factor for me.

Emilia90

Oakenshield said:

Thanks @Emilia90 - I’m probably going to be running this one in the next few days so appreciate your write up. A question for you: I’m planning to run with 7* R2 G2099, 7* R3 Warlock, 7* R2 Shang Chi, 6*R5A Void, and one more. I’m debating between a 6* R4A Moleman (who I have heard makes the S2099 fight not too bad) or a 7* R2 Sig 20 Crossbones. I’m leaning towards Crossbones, but I’ll admit I’m not great at keeping his furies up. So keep going back and forth between him and Moleman.

Any advice you can offer?

I’d definitely bring CB even if you’re not great at using him. He’s awakened and the furies even with a subpar ramp will pack a punch (he also has more charges). I don’t think a r4A will get you that far imo at least since your charges will deplete fast and you’ll take a ton of damage fast

Pikolu

willrun4adonut said:

Average_Desi said:

captain_rogers said:

Did you used assault pre fight in any of the fights (5% power burn). Also what's the rotation with shang? Saving up for big sp2 Or throwing it whenever you can? And how to manage s99 power gain?

Assault power drain is useless. It reduces the amount of Regen you get as well as the amount of power you drain on your sp1. Also reduces the armour rating. Overall a horrible idea

I used assault pre fight for silver centurion. While I agree it's normally a terrible idea, the idea wasn't terrible for SC.

Pikolu u used it on Jubs but not SC? I found Jubs easy to manage with just sp1, but SC i don't think I could have done it with the prefight.

I found SC easy to manage with just sp1 since he is easy to just 4 hit combo sp1 and eventually the lock on disappears. Didn't want to be taking sp2s into my block that fight. I'm used to dancing that SC fight. I much preferred also being able to dex Jubilee sp2s, especially once the 2nd half of charges are there. No block damage, and no worries about her getting to sp3 while I'm not able to get to sp1. Had that happen too many times when I was doing that path last year

captain_rogers

Sceptilemaniac2 said:

Is there a reason for not using serpent's sp3 in the titania fight?
He ramps up wayyyyy faster.

I always went for a sp3 first in most matchups then spammed sp1, but mine is 7* so I have more time to ramp.

Sceptilemaniac2

captain_rogers said:

Sceptilemaniac2 said:

Is there a reason for not using serpent's sp3 in the titania fight?
He ramps up wayyyyy faster.

I always went for a sp3 first in most matchups then spammed sp1, but mine is 7* so I have more time to ramp.

@captain_rogers but against titania he would gain two bars of power just for throwing the sp3 when she's in haymaker.