Isophyne Sneaky Good BG Defender??

TotemCorruption

Shouldn't she be a punching bag on defense? But she's 5-0 this season, and I have no clue what's happening. Isophyne god-tier defender, lol?

JT_Supreme

I mean she is kinda new and I’ve never played against played her so if you threw her on defense I would have no idea what her specials are or how to counter her lol.

Friendly001

Certified Diamond V moment.

captain_rogers

Deadpool inflicts a lot less debuffs natively to keep up the reduced damage from decay tactic, so he sucks against non tactic defenders. Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

TotemCorruption

captain_rogers said:

Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

Shathra isn't immune or tactic either, but she's still been ok so far.

TotemCorruption

Friendly001 said:

Certified Diamond V moment.

Probably.
I'm just buying time until I rank up and unleash Electro in GC this season.

TotemCorruption

JT_Supreme said:

I mean she is kinda new and I’ve never played against played her so if you threw her on defense I would have no idea what her specials are or how to counter her lol.

We all have her though.
I did practice just now fighting her just to see, and it seems like they gave her the Blade playbook. She literally just stands holding block until you do something. You can't bait her to do anything.

PT_99

Diamond players when they face new hero with new animations on defence 😭😭

TotemCorruption

captain_rogers said:

Deadpool inflicts a lot less debuffs natively to keep up the reduced damage from decay tactic, so he sucks against non tactic defenders. Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

Can you explain what you mean by "non tactic defenders"? Don't both sugar pill and hazard shift apply to all defenders in this BG season? I'm genuinely confused (and likely missing something).

ThePredator1001

Maybe the fractured power bar is catching them off guard? Don’t know which special she will throw

Toyota_2015

TotemCorruption said:

captain_rogers said:

Deadpool inflicts a lot less debuffs natively to keep up the reduced damage from decay tactic, so he sucks against non tactic defenders. Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

Can you explain what you mean by "non tactic defenders"? Don't both sugar pill and hazard shift apply to all defenders in this BG season? I'm genuinely confused (and likely missing something).

Hazard Shift does apply to all defenders this season, but Sugar Pill only applies to defenders with the Sugar Pill tag

Tactic defenders place Placebo buffs on the attacker. Decay attackers are immune to Placebo buffs, and whenever a Buff immunity triggers they place a Wither debuff on the opponent. These Wither debuffs allow all Decay attackers to mitigate the damage from Hazard Shift, but they can only place these debuffs if their Placebo Buff Immunity triggers, which can only happen if the defender has the Sugar Pill tag. Decay attackers can still reduce the damage from Hazard Shift when facing a non-tactic defender if they place a lot of personal debuffs on the opponent, but DPX doesn’t do that very well

TotemCorruption

Toyota_2015 said:

TotemCorruption said:

captain_rogers said:

Deadpool inflicts a lot less debuffs natively to keep up the reduced damage from decay tactic, so he sucks against non tactic defenders. Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

Can you explain what you mean by "non tactic defenders"? Don't both sugar pill and hazard shift apply to all defenders in this BG season? I'm genuinely confused (and likely missing something).

Hazard Shift does apply to all defenders this season, but Sugar Pill only applies to defenders with the Sugar Pill tag

Tactic defenders place Placebo buffs on the attacker. Decay attackers are immune to Placebo buffs, and whenever a Buff immunity triggers they place a Wither debuff on the opponent. These Wither debuffs allow all Decay attackers to mitigate the damage from Hazard Shift, but they can only place these debuffs if their Placebo Buff Immunity triggers, which can only happen if the defender has the Sugar Pill tag. Decay attackers can still reduce the damage from Hazard Shift when facing a non-tactic defender if they place a lot of personal debuffs on the opponent, but DPX doesn’t do that very well

Thanks, that makes sense, but shouldn't the BG node specify that Sugar Pill applies only to Sugar Pill tagged defenders, the way #Decay is laid out for attackers?

Toyota_2015

TotemCorruption said:

Toyota_2015 said:

TotemCorruption said:

captain_rogers said:

Deadpool inflicts a lot less debuffs natively to keep up the reduced damage from decay tactic, so he sucks against non tactic defenders. Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

Can you explain what you mean by "non tactic defenders"? Don't both sugar pill and hazard shift apply to all defenders in this BG season? I'm genuinely confused (and likely missing something).

Hazard Shift does apply to all defenders this season, but Sugar Pill only applies to defenders with the Sugar Pill tag

Tactic defenders place Placebo buffs on the attacker. Decay attackers are immune to Placebo buffs, and whenever a Buff immunity triggers they place a Wither debuff on the opponent. These Wither debuffs allow all Decay attackers to mitigate the damage from Hazard Shift, but they can only place these debuffs if their Placebo Buff Immunity triggers, which can only happen if the defender has the Sugar Pill tag. Decay attackers can still reduce the damage from Hazard Shift when facing a non-tactic defender if they place a lot of personal debuffs on the opponent, but DPX doesn’t do that very well

Thanks, that makes sense, but shouldn't the BG node specify that Sugar Pill applies only to Sugar Pill tagged defenders, the way #Decay is laid out for attackers?

Yeah, it probably should. Honestly not sure why it doesn’t say that

TotemCorruption

Toyota_2015 said:

TotemCorruption said:

Toyota_2015 said:

TotemCorruption said:

captain_rogers said:

Deadpool inflicts a lot less debuffs natively to keep up the reduced damage from decay tactic, so he sucks against non tactic defenders. Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

Can you explain what you mean by "non tactic defenders"? Don't both sugar pill and hazard shift apply to all defenders in this BG season? I'm genuinely confused (and likely missing something).

Hazard Shift does apply to all defenders this season, but Sugar Pill only applies to defenders with the Sugar Pill tag

Tactic defenders place Placebo buffs on the attacker. Decay attackers are immune to Placebo buffs, and whenever a Buff immunity triggers they place a Wither debuff on the opponent. These Wither debuffs allow all Decay attackers to mitigate the damage from Hazard Shift, but they can only place these debuffs if their Placebo Buff Immunity triggers, which can only happen if the defender has the Sugar Pill tag. Decay attackers can still reduce the damage from Hazard Shift when facing a non-tactic defender if they place a lot of personal debuffs on the opponent, but DPX doesn’t do that very well

Thanks, that makes sense, but shouldn't the BG node specify that Sugar Pill applies only to Sugar Pill tagged defenders, the way #Decay is laid out for attackers?

Yeah, it probably should. Honestly not sure why it doesn’t say that

Because fhe sugar pill node applies to all defenders, and not just #sugar pill tagged defenders? Have you played any BG matches this season and noticed whether it does or does not?

Toyota_2015

TotemCorruption said:

Toyota_2015 said:

TotemCorruption said:

Toyota_2015 said:

TotemCorruption said:

captain_rogers said:

Deadpool inflicts a lot less debuffs natively to keep up the reduced damage from decay tactic, so he sucks against non tactic defenders. Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

Can you explain what you mean by "non tactic defenders"? Don't both sugar pill and hazard shift apply to all defenders in this BG season? I'm genuinely confused (and likely missing something).

Hazard Shift does apply to all defenders this season, but Sugar Pill only applies to defenders with the Sugar Pill tag

Tactic defenders place Placebo buffs on the attacker. Decay attackers are immune to Placebo buffs, and whenever a Buff immunity triggers they place a Wither debuff on the opponent. These Wither debuffs allow all Decay attackers to mitigate the damage from Hazard Shift, but they can only place these debuffs if their Placebo Buff Immunity triggers, which can only happen if the defender has the Sugar Pill tag. Decay attackers can still reduce the damage from Hazard Shift when facing a non-tactic defender if they place a lot of personal debuffs on the opponent, but DPX doesn’t do that very well

Thanks, that makes sense, but shouldn't the BG node specify that Sugar Pill applies only to Sugar Pill tagged defenders, the way #Decay is laid out for attackers?

Yeah, it probably should. Honestly not sure why it doesn’t say that

Because fhe sugar pill node applies to all defenders, and not just #sugar pill tagged defenders? Have you played any BG matches this season and noticed whether it does or does not?

It doesn’t apply to all defenders. I played many games against defenders without the Sugar Pill tag and I never got any Placebo buffs

SirGamesBond

TotemCorruption said:

captain_rogers said:

Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

Shathra isn't immune or tactic either, but she's still been ok so far.

Can you Show an example. I have r3 and she is out of my deck.

SirGamesBond

TotemCorruption said:

Toyota_2015 said:

TotemCorruption said:

Toyota_2015 said:

TotemCorruption said:

captain_rogers said:

Deadpool inflicts a lot less debuffs natively to keep up the reduced damage from decay tactic, so he sucks against non tactic defenders. Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

Can you explain what you mean by "non tactic defenders"? Don't both sugar pill and hazard shift apply to all defenders in this BG season? I'm genuinely confused (and likely missing something).

Hazard Shift does apply to all defenders this season, but Sugar Pill only applies to defenders with the Sugar Pill tag

Tactic defenders place Placebo buffs on the attacker. Decay attackers are immune to Placebo buffs, and whenever a Buff immunity triggers they place a Wither debuff on the opponent. These Wither debuffs allow all Decay attackers to mitigate the damage from Hazard Shift, but they can only place these debuffs if their Placebo Buff Immunity triggers, which can only happen if the defender has the Sugar Pill tag. Decay attackers can still reduce the damage from Hazard Shift when facing a non-tactic defender if they place a lot of personal debuffs on the opponent, but DPX doesn’t do that very well

Thanks, that makes sense, but shouldn't the BG node specify that Sugar Pill applies only to Sugar Pill tagged defenders, the way #Decay is laid out for attackers?

Yeah, it probably should. Honestly not sure why it doesn’t say that

Because the sugar pill node applies to all defenders, and not just #sugar pill tagged defenders? Have you played any BG matches this season and noticed whether it does or does not?

If a defender is not sugarpill you are cooked without decay with plenty debuffs or an actual hazard counter

TotemCorruption

Toyota_2015 said:

TotemCorruption said:

Toyota_2015 said:

TotemCorruption said:

Toyota_2015 said:

TotemCorruption said:

captain_rogers said:

Deadpool inflicts a lot less debuffs natively to keep up the reduced damage from decay tactic, so he sucks against non tactic defenders. Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

Can you explain what you mean by "non tactic defenders"? Don't both sugar pill and hazard shift apply to all defenders in this BG season? I'm genuinely confused (and likely missing something).

Hazard Shift does apply to all defenders this season, but Sugar Pill only applies to defenders with the Sugar Pill tag

Tactic defenders place Placebo buffs on the attacker. Decay attackers are immune to Placebo buffs, and whenever a Buff immunity triggers they place a Wither debuff on the opponent. These Wither debuffs allow all Decay attackers to mitigate the damage from Hazard Shift, but they can only place these debuffs if their Placebo Buff Immunity triggers, which can only happen if the defender has the Sugar Pill tag. Decay attackers can still reduce the damage from Hazard Shift when facing a non-tactic defender if they place a lot of personal debuffs on the opponent, but DPX doesn’t do that very well

Thanks, that makes sense, but shouldn't the BG node specify that Sugar Pill applies only to Sugar Pill tagged defenders, the way #Decay is laid out for attackers?

Yeah, it probably should. Honestly not sure why it doesn’t say that

Because fhe sugar pill node applies to all defenders, and not just #sugar pill tagged defenders? Have you played any BG matches this season and noticed whether it does or does not?

It doesn’t apply to all defenders. I played many games against defenders without the Sugar Pill tag and I never got any Placebo buffs

Ok, thanks. I also don't remember getting placebo buffs against all defenders, but the way the BG node is written is sloppy imo.

TotemCorruption

SirGamesBond said:

TotemCorruption said:

captain_rogers said:

Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

Shathra isn't immune or tactic either, but she's still been ok so far.

Can you Show an example. I have r3 and she is out of my deck.

There is an example in my top post above.
Obviously she took hazard damage that fight so score was in the 40ks instead of 50k, so just depends on the depth of your roster and the trade-offs. But yeah, I agree, not ideal. I would leave her out of my deck too if I had 30 better options.

TotemCorruption

Toyota_2015 said:

TotemCorruption said:

captain_rogers said:

Deadpool inflicts a lot less debuffs natively to keep up the reduced damage from decay tactic, so he sucks against non tactic defenders. Sam obviously isn't immune to incenerate Or poison, and not tactic, so he'll die even to a iron Fist.

Can you explain what you mean by "non tactic defenders"? Don't both sugar pill and hazard shift apply to all defenders in this BG season? I'm genuinely confused (and likely missing something).

Hazard Shift does apply to all defenders this season, but Sugar Pill only applies to defenders with the Sugar Pill tag

Tactic defenders place Placebo buffs on the attacker. Decay attackers are immune to Placebo buffs, and whenever a Buff immunity triggers they place a Wither debuff on the opponent. These Wither debuffs allow all Decay attackers to mitigate the damage from Hazard Shift, but they can only place these debuffs if their Placebo Buff Immunity triggers, which can only happen if the defender has the Sugar Pill tag. Decay attackers can still reduce the damage from Hazard Shift when facing a non-tactic defender if they place a lot of personal debuffs on the opponent, but DPX doesn’t do that very well

By the way, I think I understood this and was mostly confused about the lack of the sugar pill tag in the node, but the way you lay it all out is super clear and concise. You wouldn't happen to be a lawyer by chance?