Yes, but he he removes 3 Rock Stacks when he would receive a Bleed. So using bleed champs keeps his rock stacks in check to stop his annoying nonsense.
So I’ve been thinking about this every time I go up against defenders that I don’t know how to beat and I thought it would be useful for us to make a list. You might not agree with some of these and you might add some, and please do, some characters like Knull, Mr. Negative, and Ultron I’ve found problematic, but personally they haven’t as consistently troubled me as much as the ones below have. Since I’m wondering more than I’m answering I won’t too many counters listed here immediately.
Red Skull - Red Magneto (metal)
Thing - Jessica Jones (sometimes)
Jessica Jones -
Enchantress -
Dust -
Sasquatch - Jessica Jones, Werewolf
Spider-Ham -
Photon -
Doctor Doom - Red Magneto (metal)
Bullseye - Guillotine 2099 (not super confident in this one, Bullseye is tough)
Arcade - Hulkling (poison immune)
Sentinel - Red Magneto (metal)
Scorpion - Sasquatch, Werewolf, Hulkling, Jessica Jones
Your thoughts on counters and who to add?
In Battlegrounds, Questing, or AW? There are quite a few options. I hope something works for you.
Red Skull - Captain Marvel. She is a great Tech counter. She inflicts armor breaks. Her Sp 1 ignores armor ups, and her heavy punish obliterates his armor ups, and inflicts a 2 second stun debuff. Hercules Sp 1/True Sense ignores auto-block. Vox's Undermine ignores auto-block also. But you can counter his auto-block with any champ by doing a heavy counter. Chee'ilth is great for this. And in case you push him to Sp 2, she can hit through his Unstoppable as long as you have a Grit buff (gained from Sp 1)
Thing - Many Skill champs who inflict bleeds are good against him since he loses rock stacks when a bleed debuff would be applied. Used "would be" because he's immune. Chee'ilth has been the best for me so far. Hee bleeds stop the stacks and in case he does go Unstoppable, she can hit through it with her Grit buff. Jabari Panther, Black Cat, Nick Fury,....etc have been great also.
Jessica Jones - any Skill champ.
Enchantress - I've seen Captain America KO her real quick.
Dust - Shuri, Ironheart have worked for me.
Sasquatch - Wasp, Void. Wasp inflicts shocks, passive stuns, petrify and big crits. Void inflicts passive debuffs and degen when Sassy tries to heal.
Spider-Ham - Jabari Panther. He's not bleed immune. She has DAAR. Her Sp 1. shuts down his evade and she can purify the Porker Poppers.
Photon - this chic is still aggy as hell to me lol. I normally use awakened Shuri since she can block all unblockable specials. This way I don't have to worry if Photon goes into Pure Light Form. I usually parry (Shuri can parry non-contact hits) and back away 2-3 times to build Shuri's Matrix charges, bait Photon's heavy, then attack. Once Shuri places 10 shock debuffs, her Sp 1 will be ready. Fire away. This will build her Precisions so she can inflict crits when attacking. Wash, rinse, repeat, or use heavy to inflict her critical shock passives.
Sinister works also since he can parry her. Parey, charge heavy, auto-release. Photon will go Untouchable, but by the time this expires, he'll stop charging his heavy and hit. Do this a few times and you'll have 10 bleed stacks and Sp 1 and degen ready to go.
Doctor Doom - Red Magneto, Photon, Wasp, science champs and shock immune champs.
Bullseye - Sinister--parry, charge heavy until auto-release. Spam this until Sp 1. Throw Sp 1 and enjoy the degens. Plus he'll regen from Bullseye damage.
Jabari Panther is good too because her Sp 1 and Hunt buff, shuts down his evade. But she'll take some damage from his attacks.
I've seen Okoye absolutely DESTROY him.
OG Storm can wreck him with a couple of Sp 1's, or a Sp 2 and 1 Sp. 1. She'll take damage from his hits if you have to block them, and bleed debuffs (unless a Horseman of Apoc), but they'll ramp her prowess up to where 9 times out of 10, one Sp 2 can cook him. She also inflicts passive stuns when Skill champs purify stun debuff.
Arcade - Hulkling, any cosmic champ who counters auto-block. A ramped up Captain Marvel is good too. And she's poison immune and inflicts armor breaks.
Sentinel - Not sure about Magneto here. I've used Ironheart against him and she did good as long as you don't catch an armor break. I think Galan would work.
Scorpion - a ramped up Captain Marvel. She's Poison immune and inflicts armor breaks. Skill champs are great too. Jabari Panther counters his evade.
Okoye is the best Bullseye counter yet. She trivializes him
Erm dazzler
Dazzler has to be awakened and you have to do a dazzling dash to get her pursuit buff up. Okoye doesn’t need to be awakened and all she needs to do is dex once to completely shut down his evade
Awakened Punisher 2099 can do Bullseye. You have to dance around for a bit at the start of the match waiting for his battery to charge but once it’s charged, you can get all the way to 2 1/2 bars of power and throw your SP2 before he even gets to one bar. Then you just need to block/dex one SP1 from him and you should be able to KO him with one or two more SP1s which will also charge his battery to prevent Bullseye from getting another special
The way I’ve had to approach Dust is trying to take her down as fast as possible. It doesn’t seem like there is any way to avoid taking damage with her…
I’ve been really impressed with what others are doing with Silk against my defenders. I used to play her all the time but I’m just not getting the results. Maybe I try to play her to aggressively…
Prowler does her pretty well. Any champ can her sandstorm. You have to create enough space between you and her so that she has to throw a medium attack which you’ll be able to parry because her medium makes physical contact. If you have someone who can incinerate her it will make her dust debuffs fall off faster, otherwise if you get a couple of them on you, it’s best to back off and wait until they fall off
Red Skull - Hercules Thing - any Skill, better BP Jessica Jones - Hercules Amora - Photon Dust - Hercules Sasquatch - Spider Ham Spider-Ham - Moondragon Photon - Hercules Doctor Doom - Photon or Juggernaut Bullseye - Mr. Sinister Arcade - Hercules Sentinel - Hercules (take care to Sentinel not reach Sp.3) Scorpion - Nick Fury (dupped)
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So using bleed champs keeps his rock stacks in check to stop his annoying nonsense.
Red Skull - Captain Marvel. She is a great Tech counter. She inflicts armor breaks. Her Sp 1 ignores armor ups, and her heavy punish obliterates his armor ups, and inflicts a 2 second stun debuff. Hercules Sp 1/True Sense ignores auto-block. Vox's Undermine ignores auto-block also. But you can counter his auto-block with any champ by doing a heavy counter. Chee'ilth is great for this. And in case you push him to Sp 2, she can hit through his Unstoppable as long as you have a Grit buff (gained from Sp 1)
Thing - Many Skill champs who inflict bleeds are good against him since he loses rock stacks when a bleed debuff would be applied. Used "would be" because he's immune. Chee'ilth has been the best for me so far. Hee bleeds stop the stacks and in case he does go Unstoppable, she can hit through it with her Grit buff. Jabari Panther, Black Cat, Nick Fury,....etc have been great also.
Jessica Jones - any Skill champ.
Enchantress - I've seen Captain America KO her real quick.
Dust - Shuri, Ironheart have worked for me.
Sasquatch - Wasp, Void. Wasp inflicts shocks, passive stuns, petrify and big crits. Void inflicts passive debuffs and degen when Sassy tries to heal.
Spider-Ham - Jabari Panther. He's not bleed immune. She has DAAR. Her Sp 1. shuts down his evade and she can purify the Porker Poppers.
Photon - this chic is still aggy as hell to me lol. I normally use awakened Shuri since she can block all unblockable specials. This way I don't have to worry if Photon goes into Pure Light Form. I usually parry (Shuri can parry non-contact hits) and back away 2-3 times to build Shuri's Matrix charges, bait Photon's heavy, then attack. Once Shuri places 10 shock debuffs, her Sp 1 will be ready. Fire away. This will build her Precisions so she can inflict crits when attacking. Wash, rinse, repeat, or use heavy to inflict her critical shock passives.
Sinister works also since he can parry her. Parey, charge heavy, auto-release. Photon will go Untouchable, but by the time this expires, he'll stop charging his heavy and hit. Do this a few times and you'll have 10 bleed stacks and Sp 1 and degen ready to go.
Doctor Doom - Red Magneto, Photon, Wasp, science champs and shock immune champs.
Bullseye - Sinister--parry, charge heavy until auto-release. Spam this until Sp 1. Throw Sp 1 and enjoy the degens. Plus he'll regen from Bullseye damage.
Jabari Panther is good too because her Sp 1 and Hunt buff, shuts down his evade. But she'll take some damage from his attacks.
I've seen Okoye absolutely DESTROY him.
OG Storm can wreck him with a couple of Sp 1's, or a Sp 2 and 1 Sp. 1. She'll take damage from his hits if you have to block them, and bleed debuffs (unless a Horseman of Apoc), but they'll ramp her prowess up to where 9 times out of 10, one Sp 2 can cook him. She also inflicts passive stuns when Skill champs purify stun debuff.
Arcade - Hulkling, any cosmic champ who counters auto-block. A ramped up Captain Marvel is good too. And she's poison immune and inflicts armor breaks.
Sentinel - Not sure about Magneto here. I've used Ironheart against him and she did good as long as you don't catch an armor break. I think Galan would work.
Scorpion - a ramped up Captain Marvel. She's Poison immune and inflicts armor breaks. Skill champs are great too. Jabari Panther counters his evade.
Am I using that term right?
Thing - any Skill, better BP
Jessica Jones - Hercules
Amora - Photon
Dust - Hercules
Sasquatch - Spider Ham
Spider-Ham - Moondragon
Photon - Hercules
Doctor Doom - Photon or Juggernaut
Bullseye - Mr. Sinister
Arcade - Hercules
Sentinel - Hercules (take care to Sentinel not reach Sp.3)
Scorpion - Nick Fury (dupped)
Thing - kate bishop, valkyrie, blackcat
Jessica Jones - shang chi, chi-ilth
Echantress - overseer, silk, nefaria, luke cage, deathless she hulk
Dust - Ironheart, arnim zola (occasionaly), nefaria
Sasquatch - spiderham, nefaria, silk, luke cage (full counter)
Spiderham - deathless thanos, kate bishop, bullseye
Photon - kate bishop, valkyrie, crossbones, patriot, cgr
Doctor doom - silk, luke cage, torch, overseer
Bullseye - deathless thanos, dazzler, NTW, sinister, gentle, okoye
Arcade - gladiator, deathless thanos, hulkling, cgr
Sentinel - juggs, deathless thanos, hulkling, chavez, or any other champ that has good damage, just make sure to manage the analysis charges.
Serpent - spiral, shathra, luke cage, occasionally nefaria.