Battlegrounds is dying …. Blah blah blah…who cares. The problem is full scope,..as in almost all game modes, just look how long event quest has taken to get some attention. This is nothing new,.,the way i feel is reward tweaks should be quarterly…as in “every 3 months”,..and that’s across the board (all game modes)…excluding maybe arena. But honestly after a while people Just stop caring,..the fact that this subject has to even be posted on the companies forums shows how out of touch Kabam is. With the game advancing and expanding as it is ..this needs more attention,..and it isn’t just battlegrounds that’s the problem
I will go ahead and add my gripe about the game too.
"Kebem" have made so many champions whale locked or in limited pools. For example: (Put any name here of a champ YOU want who is not accessible for another year, we don't even know when they will be available.) Give me my NC dupe, I want a medusa or a sentinel or dpx, I don't even have my shocker duped or Omega sentinel duped void duped. For 1 and a half years. plenty of champs I can name here.
Is it necessary to restrict a champ for years (Year is damn long time considering a mobile game) to keep the game alive?
These rewards are worthless when I can't even access a champ I want to play.
I have dropped all competitive modes. Too much Greed is making the game more aggravating instead of inviting healthy gameplay.
There was a time you really had to play arena to get ahead or keep up.
For now, BGs feels like a similar grindfest. Failure to update arena awards made that mode less appealing to me. Whether that happens to BGs remains to be seen.
I will go ahead and add my gripe about the game too.
"Kebem" have made so many champions whale locked or in limited pools. For example: (Put any name here of a champ YOU want who is not accessible for another year, we don't even know when they will be available.) Give me my NC dupe, I want a medusa or a sentinel or dpx, I don't even have my shocker duped or Omega sentinel duped void duped. For 1 and a half years. plenty of champs I can name here.
Is it necessary to restrict a champ for years (Year is damn long time considering a mobile game) to keep the game alive?
These rewards are worthless when I can't even access a champ I want to play.
I have dropped all competitive modes. Too much Greed is making the game more aggravating instead of inviting healthy gameplay.
They definitely milking champion releases and waiting for the LONGEST time to update rewards in the game.
They prob will make new title progression requiring like 4-5 r4 7*’s
I swear if its r5 7* with new title progression then its just gona be setup for banquet 2025 for all huge spenders to go for
My personal interest in the game has almost never been lower. At the high end of the game, it really feels like things are dying… but maybe that’s the current design goal? They only “fix” things that aren’t broken and let the broken things break more… honestly it’s like being on the Titanic right now watch the ship head straight for the iceberg but the Captain refuses to look in that direction…
6 months ago I would push to hit Quantum if I could. 4 months ago I would hit gc and play one match in it. Last month I couldn’t be bothered to hit gc.
For a game mode that forces you to endure through multiple different levels of frustration, there at least needs to be something well worth your trouble at the end of it all. But with the current rewards, bgs has never in it’s history been easier to miss out on.
I will go ahead and add my gripe about the game too.
"Kebem" have made so many champions whale locked or in limited pools. For example: (Put any name here of a champ YOU want who is not accessible for another year, we don't even know when they will be available.) Give me my NC dupe, I want a medusa or a sentinel or dpx, I don't even have my shocker duped or Omega sentinel duped void duped. For 1 and a half years. plenty of champs I can name here.
Is it necessary to restrict a champ for years (Year is damn long time considering a mobile game) to keep the game alive?
These rewards are worthless when I can't even access a champ I want to play.
I have dropped all competitive modes. Too much Greed is making the game more aggravating instead of inviting healthy gameplay.
They definitely milking champion releases and waiting for the LONGEST time to update rewards in the game.
They prob will make new title progression requiring like 4-5 r4 7*’s
I swear if its r5 7* with new title progression then its just gona be setup for banquet 2025 for all huge spenders to go for
in terms of milking champions, don't you think they have to?
there's a certain amount of runway they have with a rarity (both the number of champs available and how high we can rank them) and if they released all rarity locked champions too fast, what else do we look forward to? wouldn't 2 new champs a month get boring?
I've avoided BGs since season 2. Never liked the game mode.
I'd rather enjoy myself playing than grind some dumb game mode I don't like, for some rewards that I'll be able to get later on much more easily if I'm patient
in terms of milking champions, don't you think they have to?
there's a certain amount of runway they have with a rarity (both the number of champs available and how high we can rank them) and if they released all rarity locked champions too fast, what else do we look forward to? wouldn't 2 new champs a month get boring?
you have a point but that's honestly not the issue, them locking certain champs and milking them is fine, but what about the rewards for f2p? All they do is roll out event sales which are absolutely dogsh*t, don't care about how much the playerbase was at loss due to their bugs, did not even acknowledge them, forget compensations.
80% of the game is outdated but UI changes are important..right? With just one fix, ACTUALLY DECENT EQ and Paragon/New Valiant gaunlet quest rewards, most problems will be gone, they can then slowly buff other areas and work on it but yeah they don't want the game to work in a long term, whatever honestly.
Why do you think they nerfed story difficulty? to make progressing appear easier. Yet there are all the gameplay issues. Most of the bs money offers are mostly to benefit progressing players who WILL spend. They want new players to race through the story at the speed of light(ruining the enjoyment IMO) spend money and buy resources in the process.
in terms of milking champions, don't you think they have to?
there's a certain amount of runway they have with a rarity (both the number of champs available and how high we can rank them) and if they released all rarity locked champions too fast, what else do we look forward to? wouldn't 2 new champs a month get boring?
you have a point but that's honestly not the issue, them locking certain champs and milking them is fine, but what about the rewards for f2p? All they do is roll out event sales which are absolutely dogsh*t, don't care about how much the playerbase was at loss due to their bugs, did not even acknowledge them, forget compensations.
80% of the game is outdated but UI changes are important..right? With just one fix, ACTUALLY DECENT EQ and Paragon/New Valiant gaunlet quest rewards, most problems will be gone, they can then slowly buff other areas and work on it but yeah they don't want the game to work in a long term, whatever honestly.
i don't disagree on the number of sales. it used to be 2 a year? now it's like $800-$1000 every 2 months lol
in 2024:
february - valentines event april - spring cleaning may - omega days july - july 4 september - saga sales (nefaria etc.) november - cyber monday december - banquet
a bunch of stuff with at least 2 sagas in between is a lot, and i get that, but let's be fair to kabam for a second. these events make them a ton of money, it funds the game, the spenders buy everything up, and the'yre maximizing money from unreleased champions. for the longevity of the game, isn't that a good thing? why would they should they just add them to the basic pool for free?
one other thing. game economy and a healthy f2p/spending gap is what keeps the game alive. don't you think they will do everything they can to preserve that gap over making short term profits?
2 months ago a few r4s cost $180k, now it's do a couple of carina's, maybe spend 15k-20k units and do the ares challenge and you'll have 2. no matter how many whaley they make the game, the gap always shrinks back, so f2p will always survive.
i'm not too familiar with other micro-transactional games but mcoc feels very fair. no ads and dedicated f2p always get what the massive whales do, just a year later.
People have been claiming the game is dying for about a decade now.
BG's is definitely demotivating for the competitive players and rank rewards should get a buff, but yeah the game's not dying or anything and spenders will keep spending. we've been through these cycles many times.
BG rewards for the top Celestial players suck. That has been the case for a while. This is why I'm not a Celestial player (in addition to lack of skill and deck girth). But for non-top players, BG rewards are better than the rewards for most of the other content in the game. At least, the BG store rewards. The milestone and rank rewards are awful.
There was a time you really had to play arena to get ahead or keep up.
For now, BGs feels like a similar grindfest. Failure to update arena awards made that mode less appealing to me. Whether that happens to BGs remains to be seen.
Dr. Zola
arena, the eternal game mode that will barely get upgraded due to how many players use it
People have been claiming the game is dying for about a decade now.
It might be doing fine overall but try recruiting for top 50 alliances… it’s a damn desert
It never made sense for people to be this invested in a mobile game though. I'm not talking about casual whales who spend thousands because they can, I'm talking about people who made this game and their alliance their entire life. Maybe the lack of sufficient in-game rewards for such players is Kabam just showing them mercy, as in, telling them, put on some pants and go outside and socialize...
I will go ahead and add my gripe about the game too.
"Kebem" have made so many champions whale locked or in limited pools. For example: (Put any name here of a champ YOU want who is not accessible for another year, we don't even know when they will be available.) Give me my NC dupe, I want a medusa or a sentinel or dpx, I don't even have my shocker duped or Omega sentinel duped void duped. For 1 and a half years. plenty of champs I can name here.
Is it necessary to restrict a champ for years (Year is damn long time considering a mobile game) to keep the game alive?
These rewards are worthless when I can't even access a champ I want to play.
I have dropped all competitive modes. Too much Greed is making the game more aggravating instead of inviting healthy gameplay.
They definitely milking champion releases and waiting for the LONGEST time to update rewards in the game.
They prob will make new title progression requiring like 4-5 r4 7*’s
I swear if its r5 7* with new title progression then its just gona be setup for banquet 2025 for all huge spenders to go for
in terms of milking champions, don't you think they have to?
there's a certain amount of runway they have with a rarity (both the number of champs available and how high we can rank them) and if they released all rarity locked champions too fast, what else do we look forward to? wouldn't 2 new champs a month get boring?
Ment as champs coming out and nothing about them are really standing out.
Like we are getting Jean grey next month but pheonix and other iconic mutants in the game are meh…
Id love to have updated wolverine and rumors of cyclops buff.
Noone is talking about falcon 3, and champs like the leader didn’t even get an update, and it took WHOLE community uproar how sable is bad..
Now shes decent I guess, but inah dupe patriot and waiting for his buff now…
I guess I don’t have much expectation because a champ like serpent is one of the strongest in the game… but cosmic champ like carnage an iconic marvel character get left in the dust but they sell him as a 7* offer but no update…
in terms of milking champions, don't you think they have to?
there's a certain amount of runway they have with a rarity (both the number of champs available and how high we can rank them) and if they released all rarity locked champions too fast, what else do we look forward to? wouldn't 2 new champs a month get boring?
you have a point but that's honestly not the issue, them locking certain champs and milking them is fine, but what about the rewards for f2p? All they do is roll out event sales which are absolutely dogsh*t, don't care about how much the playerbase was at loss due to their bugs, did not even acknowledge them, forget compensations.
80% of the game is outdated but UI changes are important..right? With just one fix, ACTUALLY DECENT EQ and Paragon/New Valiant gaunlet quest rewards, most problems will be gone, they can then slowly buff other areas and work on it but yeah they don't want the game to work in a long term, whatever honestly.
i don't disagree on the number of sales. it used to be 2 a year? now it's like $800-$1000 every 2 months lol
in 2024:
february - valentines event april - spring cleaning may - omega days july - july 4 september - saga sales (nefaria etc.) november - cyber monday december - banquet
a bunch of stuff with at least 2 sagas in between is a lot, and i get that, but let's be fair to kabam for a second. these events make them a ton of money, it funds the game, the spenders buy everything up, and the'yre maximizing money from unreleased champions. for the longevity of the game, isn't that a good thing? why would they should they just add them to the basic pool for free?
one other thing. game economy and a healthy f2p/spending gap is what keeps the game alive. don't you think they will do everything they can to preserve that gap over making short term profits?
2 months ago a few r4s cost $180k, now it's do a couple of carina's, maybe spend 15k-20k units and do the ares challenge and you'll have 2. no matter how many whaley they make the game, the gap always shrinks back, so f2p will always survive.
i'm not too familiar with other micro-transactional games but mcoc feels very fair. no ads and dedicated f2p always get what the massive whales do, just a year later.
All I want for them to do is give us updated rewards throughout every game modr and a sigil that is 100% worth getting.
Crazy that the game is still running and making money but a lot content is just lacking every month,
Yea it seems like there big sales every couple months, it’s easier now than ever to get valient and they are just throwing deals till we get to July 4th.
all these sales man but we can’t get updated rewards is crazy.
If we go into march 2025 and no updates it’s just another month waiting + April sales again this year lol
Keep rewards irrelevant across the game… Don’t release seasonal event that give out units (Lunar NY) or Health potions (valentines day) through content.
get those bored who would otherwise skip Everest content to spend numerous units on Epoch for a R4 that really isn’t needed at the moment in any game mode unless you are in a top alliance.
From my point of view the sales and the game economy are progressing faster than what the game designers can keep up with and I don't even know what a solution could be used. Like we've been told for months they're working on something new for EQ and SQ but still nothing, meanwhile we're already getting closer to a new title and by the time we get this new updated thing it might become outdated pretty quickly with a new title and the game designers will be behind very soon again. Or for example BG hasn't really been looked at by game designers in the last year and a half, yeah they updated BG store once and create new metas every month but the mode has so much potential and they just don't exploit it and rewards are so stale. I appreciate they create new content like epoch of pain frequently but all this focus on new events we had in the couple of years led to a lack of attention to the permanent stuff like BG, EQ, even AQ, except for raids and recent glory store, the actual standard AQ rewards are so bad, like getting 25% of t5cc in 2025 is laughable and all the maps haven't been updated in a long time, I remember when we used to have updated to AQ maps every 6 months or so with new champions on the lanes, new bosses, new modifiers, but for example map 8 has never been updated lol
I just came back 2 years after quitting the game and people back then were saying the same stuff. Yea, the game is dying… for 10 years now.
Yeah, it's just a complete lack of self-awareness on the part of the "game is dying crowd." I'm not talking about the specific constructive feedback posts, I'm talking about the extremely dissatisfied posts with rhetoric about how much the game sucks and how everything about it is awful. It's like, do they ever look in the mirror and ask: "Wow, if I really feel that way, then why am I still playing and talking about it?? And if I don't feel that way, then why am I saying those things??" Of course they'll never ask themselves that question because the answer would be too painful to admit. So we just end up with daily "Kabam is dying" threads from people who need to look closer at their own issues.
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It was season 12, now we are on season 25
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Blah blah blah…who cares.
The problem is full scope,..as in almost all game modes, just look how long event quest has taken to get some attention.
This is nothing new,.,the way i feel is reward tweaks should be quarterly…as in “every 3 months”,..and that’s across the board (all game modes)…excluding maybe arena.
But honestly after a while people Just stop caring,..the fact that this subject has to even be posted on the companies forums shows how out of touch Kabam is.
With the game advancing and expanding as it is ..this needs more attention,..and it isn’t just battlegrounds that’s the problem
"Kebem" have made so many champions whale locked or in limited pools.
For example: (Put any name here of a champ YOU want who is not accessible for another year, we don't even know when they will be available.)
Give me my NC dupe, I want a medusa or a sentinel or dpx, I don't even have my shocker duped or Omega sentinel duped void duped. For 1 and a half years. plenty of champs I can name here.
Is it necessary to restrict a champ for years (Year is damn long time considering a mobile game) to keep the game alive?
These rewards are worthless when I can't even access a champ I want to play.
I have dropped all competitive modes. Too much Greed is making the game more aggravating instead of inviting healthy gameplay.
There was a time you really had to play arena to get ahead or keep up.
For now, BGs feels like a similar grindfest. Failure to update arena awards made that mode less appealing to me. Whether that happens to BGs remains to be seen.
Dr. Zola
They prob will make new title progression requiring like 4-5 r4 7*’s
I swear if its r5 7* with new title progression then its just gona be setup for banquet 2025 for all huge spenders to go for
For a game mode that forces you to endure through multiple different levels of frustration, there at least needs to be something well worth your trouble at the end of it all. But with the current rewards, bgs has never in it’s history been easier to miss out on.
in terms of milking champions, don't you think they have to?
there's a certain amount of runway they have with a rarity (both the number of champs available and how high we can rank them) and if they released all rarity locked champions too fast, what else do we look forward to? wouldn't 2 new champs a month get boring?
I can't even take it to Quantum with my free2play account 😂
So every season they get celestial reward & now say BG is dying 😂😂
I'd rather enjoy myself playing than grind some dumb game mode I don't like, for some rewards that I'll be able to get later on much more easily if I'm patient
80% of the game is outdated but UI changes are important..right? With just one fix, ACTUALLY DECENT EQ and Paragon/New Valiant gaunlet quest rewards, most problems will be gone, they can then slowly buff other areas and work on it but yeah they don't want the game to work in a long term, whatever honestly.
in 2024:
february - valentines event
april - spring cleaning
may - omega days
july - july 4
september - saga sales (nefaria etc.)
november - cyber monday
december - banquet
a bunch of stuff with at least 2 sagas in between is a lot, and i get that, but let's be fair to kabam for a second. these events make them a ton of money, it funds the game, the spenders buy everything up, and the'yre maximizing money from unreleased champions. for the longevity of the game, isn't that a good thing? why would they should they just add them to the basic pool for free?
one other thing. game economy and a healthy f2p/spending gap is what keeps the game alive. don't you think they will do everything they can to preserve that gap over making short term profits?
2 months ago a few r4s cost $180k, now it's do a couple of carina's, maybe spend 15k-20k units and do the ares challenge and you'll have 2. no matter how many whaley they make the game, the gap always shrinks back, so f2p will always survive.
i'm not too familiar with other micro-transactional games but mcoc feels very fair. no ads and dedicated f2p always get what the massive whales do, just a year later.
That has been the case for a while.
This is why I'm not a Celestial player (in addition to lack of skill and deck girth).
But for non-top players, BG rewards are better than the rewards for most of the other content in the game.
At least, the BG store rewards. The milestone and rank rewards are awful.
Maybe it’s just my perception but even engagement seems dead too. But that admittedly could be my own bias as I’m burnt out caring much more.
Maybe the lack of sufficient in-game rewards for such players is Kabam just showing them mercy, as in, telling them, put on some pants and go outside and socialize...
Like we are getting Jean grey next month but pheonix and other iconic mutants in the game are meh…
Id love to have updated wolverine and rumors of cyclops buff.
Noone is talking about falcon 3, and champs like the leader didn’t even get an update, and it took WHOLE community uproar how sable is bad..
Now shes decent I guess, but inah dupe patriot and waiting for his buff now…
I guess I don’t have much expectation because a champ like serpent is one of the strongest in the game… but cosmic champ like carnage an iconic marvel character get left in the dust but they sell him as a 7* offer but no update…
All I want for them to do is give us updated rewards throughout every game modr and a sigil that is 100% worth getting.
Crazy that the game is still running and making money but a lot content is just lacking every month,
Yea it seems like there big sales every couple months, it’s easier now than ever to get valient and they are just throwing deals till we get to July 4th.
all these sales man but we can’t get updated rewards is crazy.
If we go into march 2025 and no updates it’s just another month waiting + April sales again this year lol
Don’t release seasonal event that give out units (Lunar NY) or Health potions (valentines day) through content.
get those bored who would otherwise skip Everest content to spend numerous units on Epoch for a R4 that really isn’t needed at the moment in any game mode unless you are in a top alliance.
Decent plan to increase unit spend
Or for example BG hasn't really been looked at by game designers in the last year and a half, yeah they updated BG store once and create new metas every month but the mode has so much potential and they just don't exploit it and rewards are so stale. I appreciate they create new content like epoch of pain frequently but all this focus on new events we had in the couple of years led to a lack of attention to the permanent stuff like BG, EQ, even AQ, except for raids and recent glory store, the actual standard AQ rewards are so bad, like getting 25% of t5cc in 2025 is laughable and all the maps haven't been updated in a long time, I remember when we used to have updated to AQ maps every 6 months or so with new champions on the lanes, new bosses, new modifiers, but for example map 8 has never been updated lol
I'm not talking about the specific constructive feedback posts, I'm talking about the extremely dissatisfied posts with rhetoric about how much the game sucks and how everything about it is awful.
It's like, do they ever look in the mirror and ask: "Wow, if I really feel that way, then why am I still playing and talking about it?? And if I don't feel that way, then why am I saying those things??"
Of course they'll never ask themselves that question because the answer would be too painful to admit.
So we just end up with daily "Kabam is dying" threads from people who need to look closer at their own issues.