I just assume it’s going to be a new season of pain type event, given how successful the last year has been. I highly doubt it will be anything as long as necropolis or epoch
If Content like Epoch,Carina and Necro content Gonna release everymonth it will become a grind
Bcuz majority of player in this game are average skill based not everyone has Msd like skills to Solo everything
And contents i mentioned above require either to grind revives or Units or your wallets for atleast average skill based players
Thats why u do it at ur own pace i still have to do carinas ccp from over a year ago and anniversary carinas which be soon finished but just need to wait a tad on a rank up and need revives
Same that's why I have yet to do those CCP Carina, just too damn overtuned due to giving free reign to content creators who thought they know what they're doing with challenges,
On other hand I have done all Necro, 10 year Necro, crucibal and Ares easily.
Some challenges are just too overtuned and I don't see rewards of CCP anything enticing, I mean as much I love spidey99 playstyle, I think I'll wait till he becomes more available easily.
Like look at these rewards of so called endgame content of CCP, 1/3 of 7* and goofy 6* selector, it was big pass the moment I saw it and I'm completely fine by it because effort : reward ratio is laughably bad.
The content is absolutely bs I agree, especially the fintech ones just exist to test out patience levels, but sparky alone is worth it.
I doubt its 9.2. They might still announce 9.2, but i don't think it qualifies as "end game content". (Kabam, around act 7.2-ish?, stated tht story content will no longer be considered as end game content).
As some of the people above stated, it very much could be a season of pain type thing. A new crucible could be there too (personally, a pre nerf act 6 crucible would we fun) I also feel that necro type content is not coming.
I doubt its 9.2. They might still announce 9.2, but i don't think it qualifies as "end game content". (Kabam, around act 7.2-ish?, stated tht story content will no longer be considered as end game content).
As some of the people above stated, it very much could be a season of pain type thing. A new crucible could be there too (personally, a pre nerf act 6 crucible would we fun) I also feel that necro type content is not coming.
Another crucible be super fun as the act 7 one was exciting
It looks like more people tackled this epoch of pain than necropolis last year, although it was billed as super hard game content, a lot of people seems to have unit man through it.
Personally, Necro last year was much harder than Epoch this year.
Don’t get me wrong, I used way too many units and revives, into the high thousands😢 but still felt a lot more achievable than running necro repeatedly.
It looks like more people tackled this epoch of pain than necropolis last year, although it was billed as super hard game content, a lot of people seems to have unit man through it.
Personally, Necro last year was much harder than Epoch this year.
Don’t get me wrong, I used way too many units and revives, into the high thousands😢 but still felt a lot more achievable than running necro repeatedly.
I’ve done two necro runs and fully explore epoch. I totally agree, necro is much more of a slog
What did I miss? What new endgame content are we getting?
Edit: nvm, I found it
- Your first look at our March Champions... JEAN GREY, and BASTION! - Upcoming SAGA & ENDGAME Content! - The reveal of our next REWORKED Champion!
From the announcement yesterday about the Livestream on Friday
For what it’s worth, I don’t necessarily read this as “endgame content that is hitting in March,” I see it as “we have endgame content in the works for Soon™️ and we’re giving you a peek now.”
It definitely could be hitting next month, but feels less likely as an option than the other.
It looks like more people tackled this epoch of pain than necropolis last year, although it was billed as super hard game content, a lot of people seems to have unit man through it.
Personally, Necro last year was much harder than Epoch this year.
Don’t get me wrong, I used way too many units and revives, into the high thousands😢 but still felt a lot more achievable than running necro repeatedly.
I’ve done two necro runs and fully explore epoch. I totally agree, necro is much more of a slog
And I still find that crazy, even after you explained the reasoning to me. 😄
It looks like more people tackled this epoch of pain than necropolis last year, although it was billed as super hard game content, a lot of people seems to have unit man through it.
Personally, Necro last year was much harder than Epoch this year.
Don’t get me wrong, I used way too many units and revives, into the high thousands😢 but still felt a lot more achievable than running necro repeatedly.
Epoch is just all the seasons so it would be quicker to be done as u already have the counters to the fights from all of last year
It looks like more people tackled this epoch of pain than necropolis last year, although it was billed as super hard game content, a lot of people seems to have unit man through it.
Personally, Necro last year was much harder than Epoch this year.
Don’t get me wrong, I used way too many units and revives, into the high thousands😢 but still felt a lot more achievable than running necro repeatedly.
I’ve done two necro runs and fully explore epoch. I totally agree, necro is much more of a slog
And I still find that crazy, even after you explained the reasoning to me. 😄
It could be act 9.2 lol just wait for stream also end game content is good as we need more hard content we need content that challenges people
If it really is 9.2, it would be ridiculous to call these chapters, which most people would have no problem in complete/exploration, calling Endgame content level haha
The game is already geared towards new and mid level players, hence the neutering of the previous story content, greater access to champ acquisition, and so on. Even BG's with VT changes can be added to that list. End game content helps keep the end game players engaged.
Instead of looking at an "Or" scenario where it's either end game content or improving other game modes, why not both? I am tired of hearing that they don't have the resources for this or that. What's the point of releasing t4b as a chase item and not having content to use those new r4 rankups on? Same can be said for monthly content being released and those r3's that a lot of players have an abundance of.
The Deathless Saga, Necropolis, Carina's, EOP's, Crucible, etc. all breath much needed life into this game. The monthly content is there for the average players. More content aimed at the average player is going to maintain the status quo of a stale game. If they can figure out a way to release the same content but designed to engage each level of player adequately, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Its always an either or scenario and it doesn't have to be.
It could be act 9.2 lol just wait for stream also end game content is good as we need more hard content we need content that challenges people
If it really is 9.2, it would be ridiculous to call these chapters, which most people would have no problem calling Endgame content level haha
Endgame is just what its called for where players are at these days
Also, weren't the Kabam told that refined experience would be given for endgame content (and I don't think the Epoch of Pain was the only one) in the first quarter of the year (which also includes March)? I mean giving this experience for 9.2, well that's weird lol
It could be act 9.2 lol just wait for stream also end game content is good as we need more hard content we need content that challenges people
If it really is 9.2, it would be ridiculous to call these chapters, which most people would have no problem calling Endgame content level haha
Endgame is just what its called for where players are at these days
Also, weren't the Kabam told that refined experience would be given for endgame content (and I don't think the Epoch of Pain was the only one) in the first quarter of the year (which also includes March)? I mean giving this experience for 9.2, well that's weird lol
Yeah just have to wait on stream and it could give refine as they would have to start giving t7b frags
I am in agreement that older content such as EQ needs serious revamping. I don't exactly understand the complaint about new content being released. Epoch has greatly expanded my account as a low tier Valiant player.
U guys Also know that we getting Updates on Endgame contents more now bcuz kabam is getting money from it
Do you know anyone who has actually spent a considerable amount of money to complete epoch? I don't know a single person who has spent money on units for revives and of those I know, if they did, they would be spending a max of $100 to explore epoch. Of course those people also wouldn't spend and would rather wait for it to be easier or wait for kabam to just start selling r4 materials and buy those instead.
I'm certain kabam makes a lot more money from J4 and Cyber weekend than they do from endgame content. People haven't dropped huge money on endgame content in forever. Back in the day, it was normal to shell out hundreds of dollars for labyrinth exploration, but I think that phased out after abyss and especially after revive farming became well-known in the community.
Also calling epoch a cash-grab is pretty laughable for me. I did a run on my alt that has 10 7*s, 9 at r1 and 1 at r2 and of my 6*s only 3 were ranked up. With those limited options, I was able to complete a path and defeat ares with just 10 revives and 2 team revives. That's a really cheap proce for easy valiant as I only had to do 8.3 after that. Way cheaper than having a small account try crucible or necro. I used 7r1 antman to take out most of ares. He is the least cash-grab boss we have ever had because he doesn't need a counter. That means you can focus your entire team to what the path needs instead of having to dedicate a whole third of your team for the boss.
What do you want “End Game” players to play? If it’s not end game content.
Dude i never said to not release any endgame content What i just said that there should be time gap in endgame contents so that mid skill base can finish whatever content released before focusing on next
If content like epoch,carina,ccp & necro started to release every month in order to drain revives & units ofcourse it is cash grab from kabam which they do best for
U guys Also know that we getting Updates on Endgame contents more now bcuz kabam is getting money from it
Do you know anyone who has actually spent a considerable amount of money to complete epoch? I don't know a single person who has spent money on units for revives and of those I know, if they did, they would be spending a max of $100 to explore epoch. Of course those people also wouldn't spend and would rather wait for it to be easier or wait for kabam to just start selling r4 materials and buy those instead.
I'm certain kabam makes a lot more money from J4 and Cyber weekend than they do from endgame content. People haven't dropped huge money on endgame content in forever. Back in the day, it was normal to shell out hundreds of dollars for labyrinth exploration, but I think that phased out after abyss and especially after revive farming became well-known in the community.
Also calling epoch a cash-grab is pretty laughable for me. I did a run on my alt that has 10 7*s, 9 at r1 and 1 at r2 and of my 6*s only 3 were ranked up. With those limited options, I was able to complete a path and defeat ares with just 10 revives and 2 team revives. That's a really cheap proce for easy valiant as I only had to do 8.3 after that. Way cheaper than having a small account try crucible or necro. I used 7r1 antman to take out most of ares. He is the least cash-grab boss we have ever had because he doesn't need a counter. That means you can focus your entire team to what the path needs instead of having to dedicate a whole third of your team for the boss.
Yes i know a lots of players who used more than 30-50 revives for a single paths of Epoch and carina challenges and bought revive from units to explore or even money to explore carina or epoch
My msg is for those who are mid skill players not for High skill players who can finish any content like epoch,necro carina in 5-10 revives
Pretending that if u did something easily so it will be easy for other also is wrong
U did epoch in 10 revives many people did without revives also there are videos Many endgame player required 30-50 revives also Someone posted he did in 70+ revive one path also on forums Many endgame players i know who are afraid to even attempt epoch till now
If Endgame Content like necro,carina.ccp & epoch gonna release every month ofcourse it will be revive,unit draining for mid skill base players.
& Congrats for High Skill players u have WON the game u can do any Endgame content in 5-10 revives and ofc u dont mind if it happen monthly
U guys Also know that we getting Updates on Endgame contents more now bcuz kabam is getting money from it
Do you know anyone who has actually spent a considerable amount of money to complete epoch? I don't know a single person who has spent money on units for revives and of those I know, if they did, they would be spending a max of $100 to explore epoch. Of course those people also wouldn't spend and would rather wait for it to be easier or wait for kabam to just start selling r4 materials and buy those instead.
I'm certain kabam makes a lot more money from J4 and Cyber weekend than they do from endgame content. People haven't dropped huge money on endgame content in forever. Back in the day, it was normal to shell out hundreds of dollars for labyrinth exploration, but I think that phased out after abyss and especially after revive farming became well-known in the community.
Also calling epoch a cash-grab is pretty laughable for me. I did a run on my alt that has 10 7*s, 9 at r1 and 1 at r2 and of my 6*s only 3 were ranked up. With those limited options, I was able to complete a path and defeat ares with just 10 revives and 2 team revives. That's a really cheap proce for easy valiant as I only had to do 8.3 after that. Way cheaper than having a small account try crucible or necro. I used 7r1 antman to take out most of ares. He is the least cash-grab boss we have ever had because he doesn't need a counter. That means you can focus your entire team to what the path needs instead of having to dedicate a whole third of your team for the boss.
Yes i know a lots of players who used more than 30-50 revives for a single paths of Epoch and carina challenges and bought revive from units to explore or even money to explore carina or epoch
My msg is for those who are mid skill players not for High skill players who can finish any content like epoch,necro carina in 5-10 revives
Pretending that if u did something easily so it will be easy for other also is wrong
U did epoch in 10 revives many people did without revives also there are videos Many endgame player required 30-50 revives also Someone posted he did in 70+ revive one path also on forums Many endgame players i know who are afraid to even attempt epoch till now
If Endgame Content like necro,carina.ccp & epoch gonna release every month ofcourse it will be revive,unit draining for mid skill base players.
& Congrats for High Skill players u have WON the game u can do any Endgame content in 5-10 revives and ofc u dont mind if it happen monthly
U can easily get the revives if ur spending thats there fault than kabams since revives are easy to get ill admit i spent to finish my last 3 paths but thats just because not being patient but if i did wait it still wouldnt cost 40 revives a lane as u get better at ares less revives it takes
If you aren’t end game you have Act 1-8, back issues, ROL, LOL, AOL, Gauntlet, Shooting Stars, MQ, side quest, etc. Slow play the game and you will enjoy it more. Sure you can speed run your way to Paragon, but you won’t be prepared for the end game if it is your first time through.
Maybe it’s time for you to leave this game. I agree with you that instead of focusing on fixing the bugs, it looks like they’re trying to milk whatever they can. That’s why I decided to stop play for awhile
What do you want “End Game” players to play? If it’s not end game content.
Dude i never said to not release any endgame content What i just said that there should be time gap in endgame contents so that mid skill base can finish whatever content released before focusing on next
If content like epoch,carina,ccp & necro started to release every month in order to drain revives & units ofcourse it is cash grab from kabam which they do best for
What's actually your issue? Everyone is saying to do it at your own pace. If you can complete one endgame content in six months, then do it in six months—regardless of when it was released.
Why are you putting pressure on yourself to complete one before another comes out? If you're not skilled and need to farm revives just to get through, then no, the content isn't meant to be completed within a month.
I haven't done Necro or CCP yet, and I’ll do them whenever I feel like it—or maybe not at all. I can’t complete endgame content without a solid revive and unit stash, which is why I couldn’t reach Valiant until 9.1 dropped. My Epoch first run was 70 revive, did it just few days ago, not within a week of release, no spending money at all, there was not any content to use these revives in between.
If you’re not interested in endgame content, just play at your own pace. You don’t have to rush to finish one before another releases.
Maybe it’s time for you to leave this game. I agree with you that instead of focusing on fixing the bugs, it looks like they’re trying to milk whatever they can. That’s why I decided to stop play for awhile
U do know making content and fixing bugs are different teams learn this godness me people have the wrong idea on this stuff always of these takes
Well Bugs was never a part of my topic above and I personally believe that's Bugs are now part of game whether u like it or not and mostly Old players are used to it now and take it as joke
What I intend to say that kabam is moving in wrong direction Kabam never showing any love to Monthly Sq/ Eq those quests are outdated for years now why ? Bcuz those quest not gonna milk them anything even they update
Kabam ignoring totally Bg rewards update now Why ? bcuz bg now not milking them any cash or units most of the players lost their excitement to push higher ranks The same scenario is with Aq rewards years before
Kabam only Focus now currently is to how to milk from players more & more whether it will be through sales or it will be through endgame. Endgame monthly back to back release is a proof that they looking to grab cash irrespective of what players need
High skill players still gonna disagree & say blah blah skill issue and endgame should be released every month bcuz it is easy blah blah 5-10 revives
But Not everyone enjoy Endgame content like Necro,carina & epoch so that's why it's important to maintain a balance for kabam and timely show love to other contents & release Endgame every 3 month or so that majority of players can enjoy without knocking their head for 6 hours in necro or making memory of what action they did for ares every month ✌️
You forgot one major factor: Units are used in deal events. And deal events are getting more expensive by the year. So, if we re to spend our units in end game content each month, we won't be able to get the deals, and we are kinda forced to buy them. And yes, at the moment there is too much endgame, the players that are not top alliances, are doing for example one Epoch lane every 15 to 20 days, after farming some units. Many players haven t even completed all new carinas yet, and 9.2 is coming, when are we supposed to finish all these things if they keep adding up, to be able to play competitive in BGs and AW? Because by the time we ll finish them, other players that pay their way through the game, will be hundreds of levels above us, and it will be no use at all.
You forgot one major factor: Units are used in deal events. And deal events are getting more expensive by the year. So, if we re to spend our units in end game content each month, we won't be able to get the deals, and we are kinda forced to buy them. And yes, at the moment there is too much endgame, the players that are not top alliances, are doing for example one Epoch lane every 15 to 20 days, after farming some units. Many players haven t even completed all new carinas yet, and 9.2 is coming, when are we supposed to finish all these things if they keep adding up, to be able to play competitive in BGs and AW? Because by the time we ll finish them, other players that pay their way through the game, will be hundreds of levels above us, and it will be no use at all.
Id rather content over deals if they reward the same resources
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As some of the people above stated, it very much could be a season of pain type thing.
A new crucible could be there too
(personally, a pre nerf act 6 crucible would we fun)
I also feel that necro type content is not coming.
Personally, Necro last year was much harder than Epoch this year.
Don’t get me wrong, I used way too many units and revives, into the high thousands😢 but still felt a lot more achievable than running necro repeatedly.
It definitely could be hitting next month, but feels less likely as an option than the other.
Instead of looking at an "Or" scenario where it's either end game content or improving other game modes, why not both? I am tired of hearing that they don't have the resources for this or that. What's the point of releasing t4b as a chase item and not having content to use those new r4 rankups on? Same can be said for monthly content being released and those r3's that a lot of players have an abundance of.
The Deathless Saga, Necropolis, Carina's, EOP's, Crucible, etc. all breath much needed life into this game. The monthly content is there for the average players. More content aimed at the average player is going to maintain the status quo of a stale game. If they can figure out a way to release the same content but designed to engage each level of player adequately, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Its always an either or scenario and it doesn't have to be.
I'm certain kabam makes a lot more money from J4 and Cyber weekend than they do from endgame content. People haven't dropped huge money on endgame content in forever. Back in the day, it was normal to shell out hundreds of dollars for labyrinth exploration, but I think that phased out after abyss and especially after revive farming became well-known in the community.
Also calling epoch a cash-grab is pretty laughable for me. I did a run on my alt that has 10 7*s, 9 at r1 and 1 at r2 and of my 6*s only 3 were ranked up. With those limited options, I was able to complete a path and defeat ares with just 10 revives and 2 team revives. That's a really cheap proce for easy valiant as I only had to do 8.3 after that. Way cheaper than having a small account try crucible or necro. I used 7r1 antman to take out most of ares. He is the least cash-grab boss we have ever had because he doesn't need a counter. That means you can focus your entire team to what the path needs instead of having to dedicate a whole third of your team for the boss.
What i just said that there should be time gap in endgame contents so that mid skill base can finish whatever content released before focusing on next
If content like epoch,carina,ccp & necro started to release every month in order to drain revives & units ofcourse it is cash grab from kabam which they do best for
My msg is for those who are mid skill players not for High skill players who can finish any content like epoch,necro carina in 5-10 revives
Pretending that if u did something easily so it will be easy for other also is wrong
U did epoch in 10 revives many people did without revives also there are videos
Many endgame player required 30-50 revives also
Someone posted he did in 70+ revive one path also on forums
Many endgame players i know who are afraid to even attempt epoch till now
If Endgame Content like necro,carina.ccp & epoch gonna release every month ofcourse it will be revive,unit draining for mid skill base players.
& Congrats for High Skill players u have WON the game u can do any Endgame content in 5-10 revives and ofc u dont mind if it happen monthly
Why are you putting pressure on yourself to complete one before another comes out? If you're not skilled and need to farm revives just to get through, then no, the content isn't meant to be completed within a month.
I haven't done Necro or CCP yet, and I’ll do them whenever I feel like it—or maybe not at all. I can’t complete endgame content without a solid revive and unit stash, which is why I couldn’t reach Valiant until 9.1 dropped. My Epoch first run was 70 revive, did it just few days ago, not within a week of release, no spending money at all, there was not any content to use these revives in between.
If you’re not interested in endgame content, just play at your own pace. You don’t have to rush to finish one before another releases.
9.2 will probably be added separately if not the following month.
What they probably mean by end game content or at least what i hope is the weekly 1 fight woe/sos/aoa thing.
What I intend to say that kabam is moving in wrong direction
Kabam never showing any love to Monthly Sq/ Eq those quests are outdated for years now
why ? Bcuz those quest not gonna milk them anything even they update
Kabam ignoring totally Bg rewards update now
Why ? bcuz bg now not milking them any cash or units most of the players lost their excitement to push higher ranks
The same scenario is with Aq rewards years before
Kabam only Focus now currently is to how to milk from players more & more whether it will be through sales or it will be through endgame.
Endgame monthly back to back release is a proof that they looking to grab cash irrespective of what players need
High skill players still gonna disagree & say blah blah skill issue and endgame should be released every month bcuz it is easy blah blah 5-10 revives
But Not everyone enjoy Endgame content like Necro,carina & epoch so that's why it's important to maintain a balance for kabam and timely show love to other contents & release Endgame every 3 month or so that majority of players can enjoy without knocking their head for 6 hours in necro or making memory of what action they did for ares every month ✌️
Many players haven t even completed all new carinas yet, and 9.2 is coming, when are we supposed to finish all these things if they keep adding up, to be able to play competitive in BGs and AW?
Because by the time we ll finish them, other players that pay their way through the game, will be hundreds of levels above us, and it will be no use at all.