Kabam wouldn't dare release MCoC on Steam
Koustav04
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I'm absolutely certain that this game won't be on PC for long if at all. Because unlike mobile game players, PC players have played a variety of games that are exceptionally good. Can you imagine a PC fighting game player booting up this game only to see that the enemy doing block-unblock-block-unblock-block-unblock-block unblock a million (hyperbole) times per second? Steam reviews are going to rip this game to shreds.
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I got no pc
They are within the same genre but are marketed and designed for entirely different audiences. Also have you actually played fighting games before? PVP in games like street fight have literally seen low kick, low kick, low kick, grab, low kick, low kick spam metas before
I was very sad when the beta came to an end last month and I can't wait for the proper release later this year. I do think there are a couple of very fundamental things they need to fix in order for it to be a smooth experience (controller navigation being the #1 thing, as far as I'm concerned), but since they are taking a substantial amount of time now after the beta to iron out things before the full release, I'm confident that they'll fix what needs fixing.
I very much look forward to the full release because I loved what I saw in the beta. It quickly became my prefered way to play the game.
I don't want to bully Kabam by comparing this game to Skyrim or Witcher 3. Most people who defend this game's A.I. have never played a PC or console game in their life. In street fighter, enemies don't cancel their attack midway through. The player and the A.I have the same recovery time. Street Fighter is all about skill; no RNG dependent baiting specials, no forced RPG mechanics, you can use any character against any other character and win. Comparing MCoC to literally any PC game whether fighting or RPG is beyond parody. It's hilarious.
You can play every Hoyoverse game in their entirety without spending any real money. The reason those games make billions of dollars in revenue every year is due to how attractive and likable the characters are. They don't gatekeep any levels or story content behind a paywall. MiHoYo knows how to sell in-game items. They never appear greedy. Every successful game company treats their players as intelligent people and diligently listens to their criticisms. Kabam treats us like toddlers asking for a candy bar.
Tell me what statement you disagree with. If you think Kabam's target audience in Steam is only those who have never played anything other than a mobile game, then I have some very bad news.
It's better to realize mistakes before wasting millions of dollars. Marvel brand name alone can't save a faulty product from failing. Just look at Marvel Realm of Champions or Marvel future Revolution.
Pretty much all your characterizations of MCOC itself are hyperbole at best, just blatantly wrong at worst. You say other games don’t paywall story content or progress, implying MCOC does. However, the exact opposite is true. Speed runners have proven that you can progress all the way to Valiant in a couple of weeks, proving there are no story or progress paywalls, and not even any grind walls. In MCOC you go as fast as your skill can carry you.
Also, every game has its critics, and every single game out there, PC, console, or otherwise, has detractors that would describe the game operators exactly the way you describe MCOC, as greedy developers that ignore their players and treat them like children. Every game has their version of you. I personally don’t think the devs are greedy or treat me like a child, but if you do you should find a game where that’s not true. This is not a “if you don’t like it just leave” thing. There are lots of things about the game I don’t like but I’m willing to tolerate and try to work towards improving. But if you think the devs are greedy people who treat you like a child, that’s never going to change. You think there exist people who do that, but one day a light shines down upon them and they suddenly see the error of their ways? There’s only two kinds of people that do that: those that are in fact greedy bastards, in which case you’re not going to suddenly change their lives, and those who disagree with your characterization, and will thus ignore you as a crackpot.
Those who became valiant in weeks are content creators who were...
1) motivated by the prospect of making money. That's why they could dedicate enough time grinding each day. The rest of us have a life outside this game.
2) Have been playing this game for many years and have acquired the knowledge and skills to do so.
Stop claiming to be a PC gamer. Not even Activision-Blizzard fanboys would excuse the things you're excusing.
I swear on everything I cherish that there is no other game that tries to make a hodgepodge of a system forcefully merging worst aspect of fighting game and RPG mechanics. Name one and I'll apologize and shut up.
The fact that a completely useless champ like Ms marvel exists alongside a broken overpowered champ like the Serpent in the same game is absolutely baffling. What other game does that? This is embarrassing even by Chinese gacha game standard.
(FYI, the worst thing a fighting game can do is enemy A.I punching air like a madman; and the worst thing an RPG can do is making numbers matter more than character abilities)
I am fan of this game and played this game for 10 years. And i played ps5 game like tekken 8, street fighter 6 and king of fighters. And i can't wait for fatal fury city of the wolves. And compare to mcoc, they had different gameplay style. Mcoc is the most complicated game i ever played but it's fun even it had bugs. Each champs had different play style and had counter to each other. Unlike the pc/console fighting games, you need skills and they didn't had counter. Each of the fighting game had archtype, example grappler, shoto, charge, puppeters and many more. So it is different.
And in mcoc you also need skills and knowledge. Even you didn't get the champs you want, there are plenty others. Even i played wuthering waves in ps5, and the rng is same as mcoc, i didn't get what i want. And mcoc had same gatcha element as hoyoverse and wuthering waves, it just different gameplay
Give this game a chance. If you didn't like this game just uninstall it.
I didn't make this discussion personal. 'Disagree Bots' like you did. Because you can't defend the gameplay mechanics and A.I issue. That's all you can talk about.
I'm saying these things because Kabam needs to know what they're competing against in PC market. I'm doing them a favor.
I used realm of champions as an example to show that it's possible that Kabam doesn't know what they're doing. They're hiring content creators as employees instead of industry veterans. Because they're desperate to save money. They forgot what *FUN* is and think that a mobile game with limited social features is supposed to like a second job for gamers.
So, you dont understand Mcoc yet...
This isnt like a normal fighting game, is more a RPG with nodes and Buffs Fighting game.
Then, don't try to compare with King of Fighters, Tekken, Street Fighter, Marvel Super Heroes, Marvel vs Capcom....
But, yes, all these games inspired something into Mcoc
Incursions=Survival mode
Arenas=3 vs 3
And the rate on Steam will be according to this
It’s somewhat unique in that sense, and organically evolved to be that over time (although I said it was obvious that was the template for the game as far back as 2016). Someone trying to look at MCOC through the lens of fighting games or traditional RPGs as if those were the only reasonable touchstone for the game simply lack wide game design experience. And historically speaking, players who demand MCOC be like some other game they think it should parallel don’t often last long. But that doesn’t represent the majority of PC gamers. Most PC gamers, like most game players in general, approach games with limited preconceived notions and decide whether to continue to play a game based on its individual experience.
But if you are one of those people, MCOC will never be one of those games, and you should go back to them.
For someone trying to give us poor ignorant mobile gamers an education, you haven’t even mentioned the single biggest threat to the success on MCOC on PC, and it has nothing to do with anything you’re talking about. It’s a challenge many people who actually know what they are talking about identified, and I think if anything trips it up, it will be this. If you had come up with this one, I might have taken the rest more seriously. Maybe. But as it stands, you appear to be nothing more than someone with an axe to grind and delusions of expertise. Even most of the people who think MCOC has genuinely challenging problems are unlikely to take up your banner given your attitude towards mobile gamers players.
You can say the people who like the game are just too ignorant to know any better and the people who don’t agree with you are just disagree bots. And maybe this will land with some people. But I see right through it. It’s what someone has when they have nothing else, when they crave recognition for something, anything, and that’s the only option available. To be honest, I’ve entertained this thread more than long enough, and now I think it would be best to give it the attention it deserves, which is none.