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INITIAL THOUGHTS ON JEAN GREY?

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  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,110 ★★★★★

    EdisonLaw said:

    ShoNuff29 said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    Not a fan of 50% chance of reverse controls… that’s gonna be a point of endless frustration

    Gives Ironheart and Jack O’Lantern more relevance
    But still she may be a stall on defense, especially since the force field mitigates damage
    This is just TB EQ, and my first time fighting her, but she's definitely a staller and annoying.
    I think DLL undersold her as a 3 on the defender scale. But that's not unusual for Kabam to design champs that turn out better or worse on D than they projected. Like Dust is also a 3/5 on D, whereas Mysterio is a 4/5 (lol).
    Also, I am not sure why Juggs was getting reverse-controlled here. Maybe just a glitch or is he not immune to her antics?


    She inflicts exhaustion which shuts down his gem.
  • Toproller89Toproller89 Member Posts: 2,221 ★★★★★
    She seems like onslaught but not as good
  • VaniteliaVanitelia Member Posts: 604 ★★★
    Yeah, Jack is the perfect counter for her. I don't spend on champs anymore, so I'll take everyone's word on how she is on offense.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,455 ★★★★★
    Vanitelia said:

    Yeah, Jack is the perfect counter for her. I don't spend on champs anymore, so I'll take everyone's word on how she is on offense.

    Shocker can nuke her in bgs, never let her throw a special and nuke before that.
  • IronwarriorIronwarrior Member Posts: 171 ★★

    I don't know anything about her mechanics or abilities, but her kit is amazing.
    Is "kit" ok to say?

    She's very good wdym. I do feel like they held back a little on her because they made her with the phoenix buff in mind so I'm interested on how broken she will be
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,239 ★★★★★
    Pulled the five star and she seems pretty solid. Haven't ventured outside of realm yet so definitely not getting the full picture but get rotation is pretty consistent and her heavy reach is way stronger than I thought it would be
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 3,047 ★★★★★
    edited March 7
    Yeah Juggy won’t be a great option. Ironheart, Jack, Sinister it is then
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 1,057 ★★★★
    I asked this in another thread but decided to move it back here so we don't go off topic anyways,

    @TotemCorruption have you r4'd Jean?
    If not, what're u waiting for?
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,921 ★★★★★
    NONYABIZZ said:

    I asked this in another thread but decided to move it back here so we don't go off topic anyways,

    @TotemCorruption have you r4'd Jean?
    If not, what're u waiting for?

    I don't want her to get banned in BG, otherwise yes she would've been my top choice. @NONYABIZZ
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 1,057 ★★★★
    I personally don't have that problem lol
    My dazzler is sig200 and is always banned cos she's my second top champ on my profile
    Nothings gonna change when I r4 😆
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,578 ★★★★★
    So do we think she'll be the 2nd best mutant dual threat after Onslaught?
  • TheMostHated1TheMostHated1 Member Posts: 131
    edited May 19
    BigBlueOx said:

    Not a fan of 50% chance of reverse controls… that’s gonna be a point of endless frustration

    Ironheart and Jack o lantern victim🗿
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,110 ★★★★★
    Polygon said:

    So do we think she'll be the 2nd best mutant dual threat after Onslaught?

    Don’t forget Mr Sinister
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,921 ★★★★★

    BigBlueOx said:

    Not a fan of 50% chance of reverse controls… that’s gonna be a point of endless frustration

    Ironheart and Jack o lantern victim🗿
    Yeah, she's a weird champ.
    If you have a reverse immune champ, it's an easy 50k score.
    If you don't, 99% of the time it's not even going to be a stall, you will just actually die.

    What's nice though is she's also an exellent attacker, so it's not like drafting a defender who becomes useless when your opponent gets a counter.
    She's also a hard counter against herself obviously.



  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,921 ★★★★★
    edited May 19
    duplicate post
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,578 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Polygon said:

    So do we think she'll be the 2nd best mutant dual threat after Onslaught?

    Don’t forget Mr Sinister
    Yeah thats what i was implying , is if she's better dual threat in BGs than Sinister from the 50% RC thing for defense and not having the inequity damage reduction . Sinister seems to have a lot more counters
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 1,057 ★★★★
    edited May 19
    Low-key think she's overtuned. She won't get rebalanced, but it's evident DLL tried wayy too hard to make her good.
  • AnotherconcernplayerAnotherconcernplayer Member Posts: 156 ★★
    @TotemCorruption ,

    I don't have Jean or Dazzler, maybe I ask how is Jean compares to Dazzler and NTW in term of Attacker and counter variety of champs?

    I.e, who can counter more champs?
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,921 ★★★★★

    @TotemCorruption ,

    I don't have Jean or Dazzler, maybe I ask how is Jean compares to Dazzler and NTW in term of Attacker and counter variety of champs?

    I.e, who can counter more champs?

    Jean is pretty similar to Onslaught in that you apply neuroshocks and then use SP2 to convert them for big damage.
    Whereas Onslaught uses neuroshock passives and degen passives, Jean uses neuroshocks debuffs and neuroshock passives.
    They have some different tools and mechanics with their kits, but on a general level they're somewhat similar.

    I don't use NWT, but compared to Dazzler, they can both ignore thorns. Dazzler has the pursuit, but Jean has the passive parry stun. Dazzler has the dodge miss but Jean has the force field. Hard to say who's a better attacker. Dazzler is more of a nuke but Jean is probably slightly safer.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 6,340 ★★★★★

    I don't know anything about her mechanics or abilities, but her kit is amazing.
    Is "kit" ok to say?

    What you've been calling Kitty Pryde till now?
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