Hercules’ cardinal sin is trivializing Level 1 revives, which eats into Kabam’s potion and revive profits.
1 L1 revive goes an extremely long way with Hercules. You might argue that Hulk or Juggernaut can output as much damage with only a 20% revive before getting knocked out, but they aren’t DoT immune, stun immune that whole time without any work, nor can they ignore miss or autoblock during that damage window.
Hercules’ cardinal sin is trivializing Level 1 revives, which eats into Kabam’s potion and revive profits.
1 L1 revive goes an extremely long way with Hercules. You might argue that Hulk or Juggernaut can output as much damage with only a 20% revive before getting knocked out, but they aren’t DoT immune, stun immune that whole time without any work, nor can they ignore miss or autoblock during that damage window.
This is kinda the biggest issue with Herc and what makes him a problem. And for the several commenters I’ve seen making claims that Serpent is a better immortal champ anyways, here’s what you’re missing. Serpent’s death immunity has way fewer counters than Herc’s immortality, but Serpent only has one trigger. Once it’s used up, you’re out of luck until you actually win that fight and your Serpent is significantly neutered in his abilities until you win several in a row without using up death immunity. Herc though? One revive and you’re back in fighting form with upwards of 30 seconds of a free uncontested window of damage, often more if you play your cards right. You don’t lose out on any ramp, on the contrary Herc’s persistent strength and easy/fast rotation means he’s hitting good numbers immediately. Not the best numbers, which I’ll clarify since some people are acting like Herc’s damage was what made him broken for whatever reason, but more than sufficient. That’s what makes him such a “crutch” champ, all you need is a few revives and Herc will punch through almost any problem that doesn’t go out of its way to roadblock him. No learning or effort required, “just Herc it” as the saying went. Any other champ would force you to learn the problem in front of you and find the solution, but Herc just asks for your revives and goes to work.
@startropics I disagree, I had the same thinking but the inverse of "oh they are releasing champs that directly DON'T counter each other".
So removing Hulkling from your list; tigra --> XXX --> fam --> apoc --> fury --> ibom
-FAM does not directly counter Apoc (not bad since FAM is amazing, just not a perfect counter). -Apoc does not directly counter Fury's biggest issue, his second life which Fury can still purify Apoc's debuffs. -Fury doesn't directly counter IBom as he will take poison and Acid Burn damage. -IBom can KO Tigra since she doesn't really have any defensive threat except for spacing on specials.
It's not to say any of these are not GOOD options, they just don't all address major defensive issues. So I can't expect Tigra to get a perfect target in Hulkling or FAM to get a perfect counter which is Hulkling. That is why I do expect CGR as the cosmic pick as he does not address the major defensive issues of FAM.
On the other hand all these champs could just as likely have no correlation to each other, other than that they are good champs and in different classes!
Alright, jokes aside cosmic HoF champion revealed as Dark Phoenix. Idk what to think about it but there are two things in my mind; -first is they cheated, we went with the predictions on the cosmic champions we can play not the trophy ones lol. -second is she looks dope, no arguments about that but kabam calling her "strong" and we are calling her "strong" two complete different things so I'm a little bit sceptical about where she lands on the game but time will tell.
With the cosmic announcements we have came to the end of this post. I want to thank every single person who shared their thoughts/predictions. I wish everyone who is going to attend on this event the best of luck.
I do also feel like they cheated a bit, they knew no cosmic champion was able to be added without breaking the game
second way they cheated is that most of us can already get her using plumes, so there will officially be one bad pull from the crystal because imagine you can only get one… and out of all the goated champs in the crystal you get a dupe on a champ you got for free
Not to mention Mike said it’s a unit focused event, so imagine spending all of them units to get a dupe, don’t get my wrong she’s good, she looks insane, but I’d still be bummed out
Alright, jokes aside cosmic HoF champion revealed as Dark Phoenix. Idk what to think about it but there are two things in my mind; -first is they cheated, we went with the predictions on the cosmic champions we can play not the trophy ones lol. -second is she looks dope, no arguments about that but kabam calling her "strong" and we are calling her "strong" two complete different things so I'm a little bit sceptical about where she lands on the game but time will tell.
With the cosmic announcements we have came to the end of this post. I want to thank every single person who shared their thoughts/predictions. I wish everyone who is going to attend on this event the best of luck.
Well she's not going to be in the crystal. Another betrayal lol
I do also feel like they cheated a bit, they knew no cosmic champion was able to be added without breaking the game
second way they cheated is that most of us can already get her using plumes, so there will officially be one bad pull from the crystal because imagine you can only get one… and out of all the goated champs in the crystal you get a dupe on a champ you got for free
Not to mention Mike said it’s a unit focused event, so imagine spending all of them units to get a dupe, don’t get my wrong she’s good, she looks insane, but I’d still be bummed out
Dark pheonix and regular pheonix are two different champs though
I do also feel like they cheated a bit, they knew no cosmic champion was able to be added without breaking the game
second way they cheated is that most of us can already get her using plumes, so there will officially be one bad pull from the crystal because imagine you can only get one… and out of all the goated champs in the crystal you get a dupe on a champ you got for free
Not to mention Mike said it’s a unit focused event, so imagine spending all of them units to get a dupe, don’t get my wrong she’s good, she looks insane, but I’d still be bummed out
What? How do you plan on getting Dark Phoenix from Plumes?
I do also feel like they cheated a bit, they knew no cosmic champion was able to be added without breaking the game
second way they cheated is that most of us can already get her using plumes, so there will officially be one bad pull from the crystal because imagine you can only get one… and out of all the goated champs in the crystal you get a dupe on a champ you got for free
Not to mention Mike said it’s a unit focused event, so imagine spending all of them units to get a dupe, don’t get my wrong she’s good, she looks insane, but I’d still be bummed out
Dark pheonix and regular pheonix are two different champs though
Im confused then , if that’s the case then this is a goated reveal
Alright, jokes aside cosmic HoF champion revealed as Dark Phoenix. Idk what to think about it but there are two things in my mind; -first is they cheated, we went with the predictions on the cosmic champions we can play not the trophy ones lol. -second is she looks dope, no arguments about that but kabam calling her "strong" and we are calling her "strong" two complete different things so I'm a little bit sceptical about where she lands on the game but time will tell.
With the cosmic announcements we have came to the end of this post. I want to thank every single person who shared their thoughts/predictions. I wish everyone who is going to attend on this event the best of luck.
Well she's not going to be in the crystal. Another betrayal lol
Okay I understand the company needs money to keep running, I'm not trying to be offensive or anything but the second I heard "she won't be in the crystal but in the FINAL milestone" the only thing came to my mind "why they have to put everything good or unique behind a huge paywall?"
Because be sure to acquire her you will need around 36k units, thirty six. 12 odin, 1200$ worth of units.
Alright, jokes aside cosmic HoF champion revealed as Dark Phoenix. Idk what to think about it but there are two things in my mind; -first is they cheated, we went with the predictions on the cosmic champions we can play not the trophy ones lol. -second is she looks dope, no arguments about that but kabam calling her "strong" and we are calling her "strong" two complete different things so I'm a little bit sceptical about where she lands on the game but time will tell.
With the cosmic announcements we have came to the end of this post. I want to thank every single person who shared their thoughts/predictions. I wish everyone who is going to attend on this event the best of luck.
Well she's not going to be in the crystal. Another betrayal lol
Okay I understand the company needs money to keep running, I'm not trying to be offensive or anything but the second I heard "she won't be in the crystal but in the FINAL milestone" the only thing came to my mind "why they have to put everything good or unique behind a huge paywall?"
Because be sure to acquire her you will need around 36k units, thirty six. 12 odin, 1200$ worth of units.
I wouldn't be that excited at all to pay for her anyways the damage looks as mid as it gets. FAM and Nick are still the ones you want out of that crystal over anyone else.
Okay I understand the company needs money to keep running, I'm not trying to be offensive or anything but the second I heard "she won't be in the crystal but in the FINAL milestone" the only thing came to my mind "why they have to put everything good or unique behind a huge paywall?"
Because be sure to acquire her you will need around 36k units, thirty six. 12 odin, 1200$ worth of units.
Do you have zero units saved up? Because for a lot of players, they can save those units and not spend any money.
I think the better way to approach this is: the game gives you a ton of free stuff, but unless you're going to spend money on every event, you cannot have everything all the time inmediately. You just need to manage your resources and choose which champs/sales to prioritize. No need to look at the 0.1% of big spenders and say "Not fair!"
Anyways, turns out its a crystal and not a gatcha box. IM OUT. No tigra for me i guess.
Obviously, they never said it was gatcha but I just hoped it was since gatcha has been such a success. It'd be no reason to return to puny annoying crystals. Its a crystal (don't remember much about Omega days since I didn't like any of the champs so didn't really pay attention), CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG but im assuming the crystals are 5-7 stars which doesn't guarantee a 7star champ anyways.
Was thinking of spending on it but since its not a guarantee of the champ i want, I'll just pop and see whatever F2P can get me.
Anyways, turns out its a crystal and not a gatcha box. IM OUT. No tigra for me i guess.
Obviously, they never said it was gatcha but I just hoped it was since gatcha has been such a success. It'd be no reason to return to puny annoying crystals. Its a crystal (don't remember much about Omega days since I didn't like any of the champs so didn't really pay attention), CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG but im assuming the crystals are 5-7 stars which doesn't guarantee a 7star champ anyways.
Was thinking of spending on it but since its not a guarantee of the champ i want, I'll just pop and see whatever F2P can get me.
The ones from the milestones are guaranteed 7*, the ones you buy with the units are 5*-7* yeah.
Honestly, them removing the guaranteed champ selector is a huge loss since this wont be a gatchta lock key box like most recent events to guarantee you pull one copy of each champ. The final milestone should be a champ selector instead of Dark Phoenix.
Anyways, turns out its a crystal and not a gatcha box. IM OUT. No tigra for me i guess.
Obviously, they never said it was gatcha but I just hoped it was since gatcha has been such a success. It'd be no reason to return to puny annoying crystals. Its a crystal (don't remember much about Omega days since I didn't like any of the champs so didn't really pay attention), CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG but im assuming the crystals are 5-7 stars which doesn't guarantee a 7star champ anyways.
Was thinking of spending on it but since its not a guarantee of the champ i want, I'll just pop and see whatever F2P can get me.
That’s a bummer but I’m not surprised. Will probably open one or two but more likely to save my units for July unless the HoF milestones are really good.
Okay I understand the company needs money to keep running, I'm not trying to be offensive or anything but the second I heard "she won't be in the crystal but in the FINAL milestone" the only thing came to my mind "why they have to put everything good or unique behind a huge paywall?"
Because be sure to acquire her you will need around 36k units, thirty six. 12 odin, 1200$ worth of units.
Do you have zero units saved up? Because for a lot of players, they can save those units and not spend any money.
I think the better way to approach this is: the game gives you a ton of free stuff, but unless you're going to spend money on every event, you cannot have everything all the time inmediately. You just need to manage your resources and choose which champs/sales to prioritize. No need to look at the 0.1% of big spenders and say "Not fair!"
This is the one, completely agree. Good friends with an alliance mate who shells out on most events, I spend banquet and that’s it.
People who spend just have access to newer champs sooner through spending. They all come eventually.
Doesn’t make me bitter, the company need revenue to make the game happen, a game I really enjoy.
Nice cars and big houses are behind a paywall outside my pay bracket, but fair play to the geezers who can afford it. Same logic here. I can have that car when it gets a bit older and its value depreciates. Same as the game.
Anyways, turns out its a crystal and not a gatcha box. IM OUT. No tigra for me i guess.
Obviously, they never said it was gatcha but I just hoped it was since gatcha has been such a success. It'd be no reason to return to puny annoying crystals. Its a crystal (don't remember much about Omega days since I didn't like any of the champs so didn't really pay attention), CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG but im assuming the crystals are 5-7 stars which doesn't guarantee a 7star champ anyways.
Was thinking of spending on it but since its not a guarantee of the champ i want, I'll just pop and see whatever F2P can get me.
The crystals at specific milestone were guaranteed 7*. There were Three in total. General public was able to get 1 cheaply. And the rest were rng crystals. I don't remember how many units i burned. ~15k I got 4 champs, out of them 2 were guaranteed and 2 from rng crystals. Mole, Corvus, OS and OR, no dupes.
Alright, jokes aside cosmic HoF champion revealed as Dark Phoenix. Idk what to think about it but there are two things in my mind; -first is they cheated, we went with the predictions on the cosmic champions we can play not the trophy ones lol. -second is she looks dope, no arguments about that but kabam calling her "strong" and we are calling her "strong" two complete different things so I'm a little bit sceptical about where she lands on the game but time will tell.
With the cosmic announcements we have came to the end of this post. I want to thank every single person who shared their thoughts/predictions. I wish everyone who is going to attend on this event the best of luck.
I’m wondering, will she be available in lower rarities in the future?
Alright, jokes aside cosmic HoF champion revealed as Dark Phoenix. Idk what to think about it but there are two things in my mind; -first is they cheated, we went with the predictions on the cosmic champions we can play not the trophy ones lol. -second is she looks dope, no arguments about that but kabam calling her "strong" and we are calling her "strong" two complete different things so I'm a little bit sceptical about where she lands on the game but time will tell.
With the cosmic announcements we have came to the end of this post. I want to thank every single person who shared their thoughts/predictions. I wish everyone who is going to attend on this event the best of luck.
I’m wondering, will she be available in lower rarities in the future?
Last years' omega days champions are still not available in anywhere. You can go from there.
Alright, jokes aside cosmic HoF champion revealed as Dark Phoenix. Idk what to think about it but there are two things in my mind; -first is they cheated, we went with the predictions on the cosmic champions we can play not the trophy ones lol. -second is she looks dope, no arguments about that but kabam calling her "strong" and we are calling her "strong" two complete different things so I'm a little bit sceptical about where she lands on the game but time will tell.
With the cosmic announcements we have came to the end of this post. I want to thank every single person who shared their thoughts/predictions. I wish everyone who is going to attend on this event the best of luck.
I’m wondering, will she be available in lower rarities in the future?
Alright, jokes aside cosmic HoF champion revealed as Dark Phoenix. Idk what to think about it but there are two things in my mind; -first is they cheated, we went with the predictions on the cosmic champions we can play not the trophy ones lol. -second is she looks dope, no arguments about that but kabam calling her "strong" and we are calling her "strong" two complete different things so I'm a little bit sceptical about where she lands on the game but time will tell.
With the cosmic announcements we have came to the end of this post. I want to thank every single person who shared their thoughts/predictions. I wish everyone who is going to attend on this event the best of luck.
I’m wondering, will she be available in lower rarities in the future?
Id hopefully say yes but possibly no
Could be a maestro like situation because she’s kinda like a trophy champ
Honestly, them removing the guaranteed champ selector is a huge loss since this wont be a gatchta lock key box like most recent events to guarantee you pull one copy of each champ. The final milestone should be a champ selector instead of Dark Phoenix.
I was really hoping I missed it…. I had 36k units ready to go just for the selector. Not gonna drop that for dark pheonix. Man, that stinks.
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1 L1 revive goes an extremely long way with Hercules. You might argue that Hulk or Juggernaut can output as much damage with only a 20% revive before getting knocked out, but they aren’t DoT immune, stun immune that whole time without any work, nor can they ignore miss or autoblock during that damage window.
So removing Hulkling from your list;
tigra --> XXX --> fam --> apoc --> fury --> ibom
-FAM does not directly counter Apoc (not bad since FAM is amazing, just not a perfect counter).
-Apoc does not directly counter Fury's biggest issue, his second life which Fury can still purify Apoc's debuffs.
-Fury doesn't directly counter IBom as he will take poison and Acid Burn damage.
-IBom can KO Tigra since she doesn't really have any defensive threat except for spacing on specials.
It's not to say any of these are not GOOD options, they just don't all address major defensive issues. So I can't expect Tigra to get a perfect target in Hulkling or FAM to get a perfect counter which is Hulkling.
That is why I do expect CGR as the cosmic pick as he does not address the major defensive issues of FAM.
On the other hand all these champs could just as likely have no correlation to each other, other than that they are good champs and in different classes!
I must admit, you got me with this one Mike, thanks for the laugh
Alright, jokes aside cosmic HoF champion revealed as Dark Phoenix. Idk what to think about it but there are two things in my mind;
-first is they cheated, we went with the predictions on the cosmic champions we can play not the trophy ones lol.
-second is she looks dope, no arguments about that but kabam calling her "strong" and we are calling her "strong" two complete different things so I'm a little bit sceptical about where she lands on the game but time will tell.
With the cosmic announcements we have came to the end of this post. I want to thank every single person who shared their thoughts/predictions. I wish everyone who is going to attend on this event the best of luck.
second way they cheated is that most of us can already get her using plumes, so there will officially be one bad pull from the crystal because imagine you can only get one… and out of all the goated champs in the crystal you get a dupe on a champ you got for free
Not to mention Mike said it’s a unit focused event, so imagine spending all of them units to get a dupe, don’t get my wrong she’s good, she looks insane, but I’d still be bummed out
Plumes give you Normal Phoenix
Because be sure to acquire her you will need around 36k units, thirty six. 12 odin, 1200$ worth of units.
I think the better way to approach this is: the game gives you a ton of free stuff, but unless you're going to spend money on every event, you cannot have everything all the time inmediately.
You just need to manage your resources and choose which champs/sales to prioritize.
No need to look at the 0.1% of big spenders and say "Not fair!"
Obviously, they never said it was gatcha but I just hoped it was since gatcha has been such a success. It'd be no reason to return to puny annoying crystals.
Its a crystal (don't remember much about Omega days since I didn't like any of the champs so didn't really pay attention), CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG but im assuming the crystals are 5-7 stars which doesn't guarantee a 7star champ anyways.
Was thinking of spending on it but since its not a guarantee of the champ i want, I'll just pop and see whatever F2P can get me.
People who spend just have access to newer champs sooner through spending. They all come eventually.
Doesn’t make me bitter, the company need revenue to make the game happen, a game I really enjoy.
Nice cars and big houses are behind a paywall outside my pay bracket, but fair play to the geezers who can afford it. Same logic here. I can have that car when it gets a bit older and its value depreciates. Same as the game.
General public was able to get 1 cheaply.
And the rest were rng crystals.
I don't remember how many units i burned. ~15k
I got 4 champs, out of them 2 were guaranteed and 2 from rng crystals.
Mole, Corvus, OS and OR, no dupes.