I have a feeling it will be Herc. The reason for this is Kabam came out with an Idol last year that is specifically made to handle his abilities. Now Herc has an easy counter, but is powerful at the same time, there is a good balance for him to come out as a 7 star.
What is blud waffling about lol.
What do you mean man, I'm actually giving a reason as to why I think it will be Herc. Whats your deal?
What I mean is you're talking about Herc counters when that was never the reason he was broken in the first place, as a matter of fact he's mid for BGs. He is however broken for everything else because of how easy he is to use and how rewarding it is to use him, the immortality is broken, the damage is broken, even the special intercept timing is broken. He's never going to be a 7* until he's nerfed which is realistically never going to happen.
Oh ok bro go take him against Ares tell me how you do. Or even Lotan
You do realize the reason you can't take either of those fights with Herc is because they included nodes specifically to shut down Herc right? Every single piece of content that comes out has to be designed around him to prevent him from just soloing everything.
Here is however a video of another boss that had nodes to shut down Herc, still getting clapped by Herc regardless lol: https://youtu.be/VmJrxWE7rQ8?si=nHbSI37eX7PXdL1Z If this doesn't scream broken to you I don't know what does.
Which is why I believe they will come out with him.
That was a while ago if I'm not mistaken times have changed and they now are making content and abilities that shut him down.
They'd been doing this even before they said that, nothing changes Hercules he changes everything around him. Until that actually changes and they nerf them, enjoy your 6*.
I disagree, and you enjoy your 6 star whatever as well.
I have a feeling it will be Herc. The reason for this is Kabam came out with an Idol last year that is specifically made to handle his abilities. Now Herc has an easy counter, but is powerful at the same time, there is a good balance for him to come out as a 7 star.
What is blud waffling about lol.
What do you mean man, I'm actually giving a reason as to why I think it will be Herc. Whats your deal?
What I mean is you're talking about Herc counters when that was never the reason he was broken in the first place, as a matter of fact he's mid for BGs. He is however broken for everything else because of how easy he is to use and how rewarding it is to use him, the immortality is broken, the damage is broken, even the special intercept timing is broken. He's never going to be a 7* until he's nerfed which is realistically never going to happen.
Oh ok bro go take him against Ares tell me how you do. Or even Lotan
You do realize the reason you can't take either of those fights with Herc is because they included nodes specifically to shut down Herc right? Every single piece of content that comes out has to be designed around him to prevent him from just soloing everything.
Here is however a video of another boss that had nodes to shut down Herc, still getting clapped by Herc regardless lol: https://youtu.be/VmJrxWE7rQ8?si=nHbSI37eX7PXdL1Z If this doesn't scream broken to you I don't know what does.
Which is why I believe they will come out with him. They are making more and more content that shuts him or serpent down, by the way some would argue serpent is a better immortal champ anyways, but what do I know I'm just a 1 star commenter.
They haven't made any content that shuts down herc. Herc is still usable they just make individual fights bad for Herc in a very obvious way. That is not the same
I have a feeling it will be Herc. The reason for this is Kabam came out with an Idol last year that is specifically made to handle his abilities. Now Herc has an easy counter, but is powerful at the same time, there is a good balance for him to come out as a 7 star.
What is blud waffling about lol.
What do you mean man, I'm actually giving a reason as to why I think it will be Herc. Whats your deal?
What I mean is you're talking about Herc counters when that was never the reason he was broken in the first place, as a matter of fact he's mid for BGs. He is however broken for everything else because of how easy he is to use and how rewarding it is to use him, the immortality is broken, the damage is broken, even the special intercept timing is broken. He's never going to be a 7* until he's nerfed which is realistically never going to happen.
Oh ok bro go take him against Ares tell me how you do. Or even Lotan
You do realize the reason you can't take either of those fights with Herc is because they included nodes specifically to shut down Herc right? Every single piece of content that comes out has to be designed around him to prevent him from just soloing everything.
Here is however a video of another boss that had nodes to shut down Herc, still getting clapped by Herc regardless lol: https://youtu.be/VmJrxWE7rQ8?si=nHbSI37eX7PXdL1Z If this doesn't scream broken to you I don't know what does.
Which is why I believe they will come out with him.
That was a while ago if I'm not mistaken times have changed and they now are making content and abilities that shut him down.
They'd been doing this even before they said that, nothing changes Hercules he changes everything around him. Until that actually changes and they nerf them, enjoy your 6*.
I disagree, and you enjoy your 6 star whatever as well.
I have a feeling it will be Herc. The reason for this is Kabam came out with an Idol last year that is specifically made to handle his abilities. Now Herc has an easy counter, but is powerful at the same time, there is a good balance for him to come out as a 7 star.
What is blud waffling about lol.
What do you mean man, I'm actually giving a reason as to why I think it will be Herc. Whats your deal?
What I mean is you're talking about Herc counters when that was never the reason he was broken in the first place, as a matter of fact he's mid for BGs. He is however broken for everything else because of how easy he is to use and how rewarding it is to use him, the immortality is broken, the damage is broken, even the special intercept timing is broken. He's never going to be a 7* until he's nerfed which is realistically never going to happen.
Oh ok bro go take him against Ares tell me how you do. Or even Lotan
You do realize the reason you can't take either of those fights with Herc is because they included nodes specifically to shut down Herc right? Every single piece of content that comes out has to be designed around him to prevent him from just soloing everything.
Here is however a video of another boss that had nodes to shut down Herc, still getting clapped by Herc regardless lol: https://youtu.be/VmJrxWE7rQ8?si=nHbSI37eX7PXdL1Z If this doesn't scream broken to you I don't know what does.
Which is why I believe they will come out with him.
That was a while ago if I'm not mistaken times have changed and they now are making content and abilities that shut him down.
They'd been doing this even before they said that, nothing changes Hercules he changes everything around him. Until that actually changes and they nerf them, enjoy your 6*.
I disagree, and you enjoy your 6 star whatever as well.
I don't play with crutches I'm not handicapped.
What's your game name I'l judge whether your handicapped or not.
I have a feeling it will be Herc. The reason for this is Kabam came out with an Idol last year that is specifically made to handle his abilities. Now Herc has an easy counter, but is powerful at the same time, there is a good balance for him to come out as a 7 star.
What is blud waffling about lol.
What do you mean man, I'm actually giving a reason as to why I think it will be Herc. Whats your deal?
What I mean is you're talking about Herc counters when that was never the reason he was broken in the first place, as a matter of fact he's mid for BGs. He is however broken for everything else because of how easy he is to use and how rewarding it is to use him, the immortality is broken, the damage is broken, even the special intercept timing is broken. He's never going to be a 7* until he's nerfed which is realistically never going to happen.
Oh ok bro go take him against Ares tell me how you do. Or even Lotan
You do realize the reason you can't take either of those fights with Herc is because they included nodes specifically to shut down Herc right? Every single piece of content that comes out has to be designed around him to prevent him from just soloing everything.
Here is however a video of another boss that had nodes to shut down Herc, still getting clapped by Herc regardless lol: https://youtu.be/VmJrxWE7rQ8?si=nHbSI37eX7PXdL1Z If this doesn't scream broken to you I don't know what does.
Which is why I believe they will come out with him.
That was a while ago if I'm not mistaken times have changed and they now are making content and abilities that shut him down.
They'd been doing this even before they said that, nothing changes Hercules he changes everything around him. Until that actually changes and they nerf them, enjoy your 6*.
I disagree, and you enjoy your 6 star whatever as well.
I don't play with crutches I'm not handicapped.
What's your game name I'l judge whether your handicapped or not.
I have a feeling it will be Herc. The reason for this is Kabam came out with an Idol last year that is specifically made to handle his abilities. Now Herc has an easy counter, but is powerful at the same time, there is a good balance for him to come out as a 7 star.
What is blud waffling about lol.
What do you mean man, I'm actually giving a reason as to why I think it will be Herc. Whats your deal?
What I mean is you're talking about Herc counters when that was never the reason he was broken in the first place, as a matter of fact he's mid for BGs. He is however broken for everything else because of how easy he is to use and how rewarding it is to use him, the immortality is broken, the damage is broken, even the special intercept timing is broken. He's never going to be a 7* until he's nerfed which is realistically never going to happen.
Oh ok bro go take him against Ares tell me how you do. Or even Lotan
You do realize the reason you can't take either of those fights with Herc is because they included nodes specifically to shut down Herc right? Every single piece of content that comes out has to be designed around him to prevent him from just soloing everything.
Here is however a video of another boss that had nodes to shut down Herc, still getting clapped by Herc regardless lol: https://youtu.be/VmJrxWE7rQ8?si=nHbSI37eX7PXdL1Z If this doesn't scream broken to you I don't know what does.
Which is why I believe they will come out with him.
That was a while ago if I'm not mistaken times have changed and they now are making content and abilities that shut him down.
They'd been doing this even before they said that, nothing changes Hercules he changes everything around him. Until that actually changes and they nerf them, enjoy your 6*.
I disagree, and you enjoy your 6 star whatever as well.
I don't play with crutches I'm not handicapped.
What's your game name I'l judge whether your handicapped or not.
I mean, Kabam John himself said that Herc would've been a contender for a nerf if the Program had existed. So they won't release him because they do not want to have to design content around him forever.
I have a feeling it will be Herc. The reason for this is Kabam came out with an Idol last year that is specifically made to handle his abilities. Now Herc has an easy counter, but is powerful at the same time, there is a good balance for him to come out as a 7 star.
What is blud waffling about lol.
What do you mean man, I'm actually giving a reason as to why I think it will be Herc. Whats your deal?
What I mean is you're talking about Herc counters when that was never the reason he was broken in the first place, as a matter of fact he's mid for BGs. He is however broken for everything else because of how easy he is to use and how rewarding it is to use him, the immortality is broken, the damage is broken, even the special intercept timing is broken. He's never going to be a 7* until he's nerfed which is realistically never going to happen.
Oh ok bro go take him against Ares tell me how you do. Or even Lotan
You do realize the reason you can't take either of those fights with Herc is because they included nodes specifically to shut down Herc right? Every single piece of content that comes out has to be designed around him to prevent him from just soloing everything.
Here is however a video of another boss that had nodes to shut down Herc, still getting clapped by Herc regardless lol: https://youtu.be/VmJrxWE7rQ8?si=nHbSI37eX7PXdL1Z If this doesn't scream broken to you I don't know what does.
I took a r2 sim and didi it faster than him, I practically was play a bit better than auto fight he is not that broken
I have a feeling it will be Herc. The reason for this is Kabam came out with an Idol last year that is specifically made to handle his abilities. Now Herc has an easy counter, but is powerful at the same time, there is a good balance for him to come out as a 7 star.
What is blud waffling about lol.
What do you mean man, I'm actually giving a reason as to why I think it will be Herc. Whats your deal?
What I mean is you're talking about Herc counters when that was never the reason he was broken in the first place, as a matter of fact he's mid for BGs. He is however broken for everything else because of how easy he is to use and how rewarding it is to use him, the immortality is broken, the damage is broken, even the special intercept timing is broken. He's never going to be a 7* until he's nerfed which is realistically never going to happen.
Oh ok bro go take him against Ares tell me how you do. Or even Lotan
You do realize the reason you can't take either of those fights with Herc is because they included nodes specifically to shut down Herc right? Every single piece of content that comes out has to be designed around him to prevent him from just soloing everything.
Here is however a video of another boss that had nodes to shut down Herc, still getting clapped by Herc regardless lol: https://youtu.be/VmJrxWE7rQ8?si=nHbSI37eX7PXdL1Z If this doesn't scream broken to you I don't know what does.
I took a r2 sim and didi it faster than him, I practically was play a bit better than auto fight he is not that broken
One fight example doesn’t make him broken or not. Nearly every champ can look broken in perfect or not perfect scenarios (depending on the champ). Herc at a seven star level would not only be broken, he would become an absolute crutch for people, just like he did when he came out as a 6 star.
I have a feeling it will be Herc. The reason for this is Kabam came out with an Idol last year that is specifically made to handle his abilities. Now Herc has an easy counter, but is powerful at the same time, there is a good balance for him to come out as a 7 star.
What is blud waffling about lol.
What do you mean man, I'm actually giving a reason as to why I think it will be Herc. Whats your deal?
What I mean is you're talking about Herc counters when that was never the reason he was broken in the first place, as a matter of fact he's mid for BGs. He is however broken for everything else because of how easy he is to use and how rewarding it is to use him, the immortality is broken, the damage is broken, even the special intercept timing is broken. He's never going to be a 7* until he's nerfed which is realistically never going to happen.
Oh ok bro go take him against Ares tell me how you do. Or even Lotan
You do realize the reason you can't take either of those fights with Herc is because they included nodes specifically to shut down Herc right? Every single piece of content that comes out has to be designed around him to prevent him from just soloing everything.
Here is however a video of another boss that had nodes to shut down Herc, still getting clapped by Herc regardless lol: https://youtu.be/VmJrxWE7rQ8?si=nHbSI37eX7PXdL1Z If this doesn't scream broken to you I don't know what does.
I took a r2 sim and didi it faster than him, I practically was play a bit better than auto fight he is not that broken
One fight example doesn’t make him broken or not. Nearly every champ can look broken in perfect or not perfect scenarios (depending on the champ). Herc at a seven star level would not only be broken, he would become an absolute crutch for people, just like he did when he came out as a 6 star.
And? Why so much concern about some other players having a "crutch" aka a go-to champ? The game's too complicated to go in without reading nodes for all but the lowest level content, but if you had to go in blind with 1, 2, or 3 6-star champs, I bet it wouldn't be too hard to put together a squad and Hercules probably wouldn't be in it. Even if he did make the cut, who cares? Kabam already has safeguards in place like Safeguard, Protection, annoying timer nodes, specific damage only, etc. that keep nuke champs from nuking throughout the contest.
I have a feeling it will be Herc. The reason for this is Kabam came out with an Idol last year that is specifically made to handle his abilities. Now Herc has an easy counter, but is powerful at the same time, there is a good balance for him to come out as a 7 star.
What is blud waffling about lol.
What do you mean man, I'm actually giving a reason as to why I think it will be Herc. Whats your deal?
What I mean is you're talking about Herc counters when that was never the reason he was broken in the first place, as a matter of fact he's mid for BGs. He is however broken for everything else because of how easy he is to use and how rewarding it is to use him, the immortality is broken, the damage is broken, even the special intercept timing is broken. He's never going to be a 7* until he's nerfed which is realistically never going to happen.
Oh ok bro go take him against Ares tell me how you do. Or even Lotan
You do realize the reason you can't take either of those fights with Herc is because they included nodes specifically to shut down Herc right? Every single piece of content that comes out has to be designed around him to prevent him from just soloing everything.
Here is however a video of another boss that had nodes to shut down Herc, still getting clapped by Herc regardless lol: https://youtu.be/VmJrxWE7rQ8?si=nHbSI37eX7PXdL1Z If this doesn't scream broken to you I don't know what does.
I took a r2 sim and didi it faster than him, I practically was play a bit better than auto fight he is not that broken
It's not about doing it faster it's the fact that he can still do the fight despite Cerastes' abilities which are meant to shut him down. He is broken and unhealthy for the game no matter how much people want to deny it and he's never going to be a 7* in his current state, he's the next Quake.
I have a feeling it will be Herc. The reason for this is Kabam came out with an Idol last year that is specifically made to handle his abilities. Now Herc has an easy counter, but is powerful at the same time, there is a good balance for him to come out as a 7 star.
What is blud waffling about lol.
What do you mean man, I'm actually giving a reason as to why I think it will be Herc. Whats your deal?
What I mean is you're talking about Herc counters when that was never the reason he was broken in the first place, as a matter of fact he's mid for BGs. He is however broken for everything else because of how easy he is to use and how rewarding it is to use him, the immortality is broken, the damage is broken, even the special intercept timing is broken. He's never going to be a 7* until he's nerfed which is realistically never going to happen.
Oh ok bro go take him against Ares tell me how you do. Or even Lotan
You do realize the reason you can't take either of those fights with Herc is because they included nodes specifically to shut down Herc right? Every single piece of content that comes out has to be designed around him to prevent him from just soloing everything.
Here is however a video of another boss that had nodes to shut down Herc, still getting clapped by Herc regardless lol: https://youtu.be/VmJrxWE7rQ8?si=nHbSI37eX7PXdL1Z If this doesn't scream broken to you I don't know what does.
I took a r2 sim and didi it faster than him, I practically was play a bit better than auto fight he is not that broken
One fight example doesn’t make him broken or not. Nearly every champ can look broken in perfect or not perfect scenarios (depending on the champ). Herc at a seven star level would not only be broken, he would become an absolute crutch for people, just like he did when he came out as a 6 star.
And? Why so much concern about some other players having a "crutch" aka a go-to champ? The game's too complicated to go in without reading nodes for all but the lowest level content, but if you had to go in blind with 1, 2, or 3 6-star champs, I bet it wouldn't be too hard to put together a squad and Hercules probably wouldn't be in it. Even if he did make the cut, who cares? Kabam already has safeguards in place like Safeguard, Protection, annoying timer nodes, specific damage only, etc. that keep nuke champs from nuking throughout the contest.
You're acting like the insane damage output is the only issue, the special intercept timing is also broken as it's way too generous, and his immortality requires zero skill to keep up almost indefinitely. There is no risk involved and the payout is huge unlike others like Tigra.
The only thing broken about herc is immortality. They could change it to indestructible buff which won't pause and won't give unblockable, and release him as 7*, He would be still good but not even top 5 cosmic.
But at current stage it is foolish to think they are even planning to release herc. Pretty sure he's going to get magik quake treatment unless nerfed.
The only thing broken about herc is immortality. They could change it to indestructible buff which won't pause and won't give unblockable, and release him as 7*, He would be still good but not even top 5 cosmic.
But at current stage it is foolish to think they are even planning to release herc. Pretty sure he's going to get magik quake treatment unless nerfed.
Miike said the special intercept window is also broken back when he was still here, it's not just immortality, and he's right it's way too generous.
The only thing broken about herc is immortality. They could change it to indestructible buff which won't pause and won't give unblockable, and release him as 7*, He would be still good but not even top 5 cosmic.
But at current stage it is foolish to think they are even planning to release herc. Pretty sure he's going to get magik quake treatment unless nerfed.
Miike said the special intercept window is also broken back when he was still here, it's not just immortality, and he's right it's way too generous.
Even if he gets 3 buffs whenever he throws a special, that won't be too broken imo. Because if it's just high damage, that can easily be countered. We have atleast 20 champs with higher damage potential than hercules. The immortality is broken, even if they remove the pause mechanism and keep the unblockable he would be fine imo. But it is better to just make it indestructible buff that doesn't pause and make him as 7* so we can atleast enjoy playing him.
If his Immortality doesn't PAUSE when he attacks or launch an special attack, then he can be a 7*. There were a lot of times when going ham with his Immortality makes the fight difficult to trivial. Go ham, push to almost 3 bars of power, SP2, go ham, another SP2, striker, SP1, standup intercept... while ignoring almost all of the nodes. I enjoy it and I'll be honest that there were a lot of times where I used that and immediately felt that he won't be a 7*.
I used Quake a lot in her prime and I'm okay with her not being released as a 6*, let alone a 7*. I'm also okay with Hercules being locked at 6*. He's still usable but the game will be healthier in the long run if there won't bea 7* version... and I said this same thing with Quake.
The only thing broken about herc is immortality. They could change it to indestructible buff which won't pause and won't give unblockable, and release him as 7*, He would be still good but not even top 5 cosmic.
But at current stage it is foolish to think they are even planning to release herc. Pretty sure he's going to get magik quake treatment unless nerfed.
Miike said the special intercept window is also broken back when he was still here, it's not just immortality, and he's right it's way too generous.
Even if he gets 3 buffs whenever he throws a special, that won't be too broken imo. Because if it's just high damage, that can easily be countered. We have atleast 20 champs with higher damage potential than hercules. The immortality is broken, even if they remove the pause mechanism and keep the unblockable he would be fine imo. But it is better to just make it indestructible buff that doesn't pause and make him as 7* so we can atleast enjoy playing him.
Again it's not the fact that he has high damage alone it's the fact that he's extremely easy to use and very few things can stop him and that ridiculous damage. No risk involved (easy to use due to infuriate and the sp intercept window), huge payout (insane damage and immortality if you're actually that bad at the game), how many other champs are like that? I agree the damage could stay as is but both the immortality and the intercept window would have to be addressed too.
The only thing broken about herc is immortality. They could change it to indestructible buff which won't pause and won't give unblockable, and release him as 7*, He would be still good but not even top 5 cosmic.
But at current stage it is foolish to think they are even planning to release herc. Pretty sure he's going to get magik quake treatment unless nerfed.
Miike said the special intercept window is also broken back when he was still here, it's not just immortality, and he's right it's way too generous.
Even if he gets 3 buffs whenever he throws a special, that won't be too broken imo. Because if it's just high damage, that can easily be countered. We have atleast 20 champs with higher damage potential than hercules. The immortality is broken, even if they remove the pause mechanism and keep the unblockable he would be fine imo. But it is better to just make it indestructible buff that doesn't pause and make him as 7* so we can atleast enjoy playing him.
Again it's not the fact that he has high damage alone it's the fact that he's extremely easy to use and very few things can stop him and that ridiculous damage. No risk involved (easy to use due to infuriate and the sp intercept window), huge payout (insane damage and immortality if you're actually that bad at the game), how many other champs are like that? I agree the damage could stay as is but both the immortality and the intercept window would have to be addressed too.
Plus Thor's hammer has, in my opinion, the best sound effect in the game. Thank "thunk" sound is perfect.
The only thing broken about herc is immortality. They could change it to indestructible buff which won't pause and won't give unblockable, and release him as 7*, He would be still good but not even top 5 cosmic.
But at current stage it is foolish to think they are even planning to release herc. Pretty sure he's going to get magik quake treatment unless nerfed.
Miike said the special intercept window is also broken back when he was still here, it's not just immortality, and he's right it's way too generous.
Even if he gets 3 buffs whenever he throws a special, that won't be too broken imo. Because if it's just high damage, that can easily be countered. We have atleast 20 champs with higher damage potential than hercules. The immortality is broken, even if they remove the pause mechanism and keep the unblockable he would be fine imo. But it is better to just make it indestructible buff that doesn't pause and make him as 7* so we can atleast enjoy playing him.
Again it's not the fact that he has high damage alone it's the fact that he's extremely easy to use and very few things can stop him and that ridiculous damage. No risk involved (easy to use due to infuriate and the sp intercept window), huge payout (insane damage and immortality if you're actually that bad at the game), how many other champs are like that? I agree the damage could stay as is but both the immortality and the intercept window would have to be addressed too.
Yeah, the accessibility to his kit is the underlying issue. Not only is Herc busted, he busted for almost every kind of player and he’s busted three minutes after you start using him.
I find the Herc / Quake comparison kind of odd. Makes me wonder how many people calling for her release actually played her in the first go-round. Yeah, she’s incredibly powerful. But “quaking everything” is not exactly easy.
I have a feeling it will be Herc. The reason for this is Kabam came out with an Idol last year that is specifically made to handle his abilities. Now Herc has an easy counter, but is powerful at the same time, there is a good balance for him to come out as a 7 star.
You say he has an “easy counter” like he’s a good defender or something. Yeah he can stall but nobody uses him for that, mainly immortality cheese.
Well you see, thats the difference right there, you are looking at it solely for battlegrounds, I'm not
There’s already multiple champs that counter Herc’s immortality on defense. Abs Man and Dani Moonstar are two of them. Anyone with DAAR can do it too. Isophyne was by no means the catalyst for countering Herc when it’s been a thing for ages
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it's CGR or hulkling, and hulkling makes the most sense.
tigra --> hulkling --> fam --> apoc --> fury --> ibom
tigra, hulking, and fam are perfect counters to each other so i think it's him.
Kabam already has safeguards in place like Safeguard, Protection, annoying timer nodes, specific damage only, etc. that keep nuke champs from nuking throughout the contest.
But at current stage it is foolish to think they are even planning to release herc. Pretty sure he's going to get magik quake treatment unless nerfed.
I used Quake a lot in her prime and I'm okay with her not being released as a 6*, let alone a 7*. I'm also okay with Hercules being locked at 6*. He's still usable but the game will be healthier in the long run if there won't bea 7* version... and I said this same thing with Quake.
Yeah, the accessibility to his kit is the underlying issue. Not only is Herc busted, he busted for almost every kind of player and he’s busted three minutes after you start using him.
I find the Herc / Quake comparison kind of odd. Makes me wonder how many people calling for her release actually played her in the first go-round. Yeah, she’s incredibly powerful. But “quaking everything” is not exactly easy.