Maybe an interesting idea, what do you guys think?

Dr. Crab

So I just 100% the wheel of fate and somewhere on my final run, I started reminiscing on this last year of playing this game. I realize that I 100% almost every piece of endgame content that came out, and it dawned on me that I’m not really a good player at this game, but this year I decided to before I ventured anywhere in this game or in the content, I took the time to really read the nodes to learn the fights and to think about what champs I would use. When I approached the game in this way and I know it sounds super obvious, but I realized that this game is nowhere as difficult and unfair as I think a lot of people think. Most of these fights, and of course there’s definitely an asterisk because there are unfair fights, excluding those, most of these fights have genuine counters, and are not that difficult once you get the gist of it down. This led to the idea of this discussion post.

I don’t think the game is as difficult as I once thought it was, I think the real difficulty is that there are now just too many champions with two complex of kits to really understand what they all do and how they work best or interact with certain notes/bosses. My question to you guys is do you think and many gotcha games have this mechanic, there should be a tab at certain bosses that let you know the most common choices that other summoners are making?

I don’t know, I know this would definitely impede on the whole research aspect of trying to figure out what does doesn’t work, but it’s also an optional click. You don’t have to look at what others are using, but I think it would at least give you the summoner clues on who to research and see how they work with the current given nodes or set of nodes.

Pikolu

There's many dumb fights in WoF, but the only one I would deem really unfair is Thor rags. With the exception of quest 1 where you can use chee'ilth, the sp3 from Thor rags is a death sentence and having bad AI for 10 seconds is enough to lose you the entire fight. Torch is also not fun with the rng of incinerates after you use your first heavies. At least quest 2 torch has an incinerate immune option.

Herbal_Taxman

OP, I agree with your assessment. I spend a fair amount of time reading forums, watching videos, playing the game etc. and I still feel like I could spend 2x the amount of time in order to truly learn all the champs.

Re WoF, so much of that quest came down to how well you can dex specials. Gorr, Dazz (if you mismanage her power and have to deal with the sp2), Enchantress, Arcade, Bullseye, Torch, Spiral.

filledwithlove

Pikolu said:

There's many dumb fights in WoF, but the only one I would deem really unfair is Thor rags. With the exception of quest 1 where you can use chee'ilth, the sp3 from Thor rags is a death sentence and having bad AI for 10 seconds is enough to lose you the entire fight. Torch is also not fun with the rng of incinerates after you use your first heavies. At least quest 2 torch has an incinerate immune option.

Thor rags may be the only fight that can be done with any champion in the entire game. He was the least restrictive one, even a r1 gwenpool could easily solo him. I'm not taking into consideration fights like enchantress where its technically possible with anyone but a lot harder without counters. Thor was actually quite simple relative to most others.

Dr. Crab

For sure, but just to be clear this is the idea:

Should there be a tab at certain bosses that let you know the most common choices that other summoners are making?

JESUSCHRIST

Bad idea bcos MCOC shouldn't corral players into using a few good champions and ignore the rest, that's not Kabam's objective if Kabam wants to sell plenty of 7* champions

Many 7* champions are already forgotten by players bcos some other champion can do a better job

For WoF, it's too restrictive that only 1 champion is viable at times so telling you something obvious is quite redundant

It's mcoc youtuber's job to make guides for difficult content, that's not Kabam's job to provide that kind of help, Kabam wants players to burn more revives actually