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What previously buffed champ should get another buff?

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  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,231 ★★★★★

    Daredevil HK, Yellowjacket, Karnak and Civil Warrior would be my top picks.

    Yeah karnak is so close to being great
    Especially with massive block damage being an actual source of damage these days, he would've been great for this GC meta if he had a little more utility and faster ramp because the damage once he's fully ramped is already there just sucks that it takes 36 seconds for him to fully ramp and his damage is pretty bad before that.
    Once I realised you can stack his sp2 furies it all became clear lmao. His damage is really solid in long form but yeah he just can't quite do short fights so that well
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 658 ★★★
    Star lord with loads of utility. Make him have potential in long fights don’t make him as entry or an aegon however
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,075 ★★★★★

    War Machine

    His pre-fights are great (although more Cleanse charge would be better...)

    He's really tanky, and actually has great damage after a ridiculously long ramp-up.

    However, his utility is a bit lacking; and his inability to re-armour makes him unusable against vast numbers of champions. Even if he could get his Armour back after 20s, that would be something!

    He really needs an ability to recover his armour buff; and would be significantly better with some tweaks like:

    • more Cleanse charges on his Pre-fight (maybe 'generate one Cleanse charge every ten seconds?)
    • more effective Prowess removal (or Prowess Prevention, whilst a Suppression debuff is active...?)
    • better Auto-Targeting (maybe Special activation should generate a short-duration Pursuit or Vigilance passive...?)
    The armor should come back after 10 seconds like other techs
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 337
    Buttehrs said:

    Psycho man. He's had a buff before.

    That wans't even a buff but a Bug fix and extra seconds on his furies,even at that time it was soo insignificant that people don't even consider It happend
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 337
    Mint9aer0 said:

    Spider man

    Give him a separate physical Vulnerability instead of putting on the stun and pause his taunts during specials,thats it for most players

    I would say making the second ammount of weeb debuffs base kit and Awakening makes them more potent but you usually kill in one S2 and few hits
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,269 ★★★★
    Again Kamala Khan missed out on 7* release today

    Chuckles
  • Mint9aer0Mint9aer0 Member Posts: 84

    Mint9aer0 said:

    Spider man

    Give him a separate physical Vulnerability instead of putting on the stun and pause his taunts during specials,thats it for most players

    I would say making the second ammount of weeb debuffs base kit and Awakening makes them more potent but you usually kill in one S2 and few hits
    He needs exhaustion or physical vulnerability on his basic attacks needs more debuffs overall and higher damage output. His sig ability evade should be in his base kit and a new sig ability that increases his damage further similar to stark. All that give him better damage utility and will make him more of a threat on alliance defense again
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 337
    Mint9aer0 said:

    Mint9aer0 said:

    Spider man

    Give him a separate physical Vulnerability instead of putting on the stun and pause his taunts during specials,thats it for most players

    I would say making the second ammount of weeb debuffs base kit and Awakening makes them more potent but you usually kill in one S2 and few hits
    He needs exhaustion or physical vulnerability on his basic attacks needs more debuffs overall and higher damage output. His sig ability evade should be in his base kit and a new sig ability that increases his damage further similar to stark. All that give him better damage utility and will make him more of a threat on alliance defense again
    Exaustion wouldn't help besides Sasquatch that he can already take on his own,His stun has physical Vulnerability by itself based on his taunts,his damage output is already realy good during the stun and his stun cannot be modified by champions, He already have 2% chance to evade per taunt and you usually gets 10 to 15

    The best would be separate the physical Vulnerability from the stun and be a 15 seconds debuff,for the evade they can increase the chance per taunt to 3% and put a cap of 40% and increase the chance of taunt
  • shield311shield311 Member Posts: 1,650 ★★★★★
    Cull Obsidian might be the first champ who got nerfed in the past and now getting a buff lol...Please reverse namor's nerf 🥀
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,324 ★★★
    Thor rag seriously needs one
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,274 ★★★★★
    shield311 said:

    Cull Obsidian might be the first champ who got nerfed in the past and now getting a buff lol...Please reverse namor's nerf 🥀

    Or ... dr strange....
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,324 ★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    shield311 said:

    Cull Obsidian might be the first champ who got nerfed in the past and now getting a buff lol...Please reverse namor's nerf 🥀

    Or ... dr strange....
    or scarlett witch and og thor
  • RoyalRose1510RoyalRose1510 Member Posts: 132 ★★
    Ant man
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,274 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    shield311 said:

    Cull Obsidian might be the first champ who got nerfed in the past and now getting a buff lol...Please reverse namor's nerf 🥀

    Or ... dr strange....
    or scarlett witch and og thor
    Scarlet witch is still amazing even after her nerf. What does that tell you? Og thor is also amazing in the right conditions. Their nerfs were needed as they were completely busted. Dr Strange was also needing to be nerfed but they went far overboard on his.
  • PsilencePsilence Member Posts: 43
    Storm!

    i did a post about buffing Storm (and Phoenix) a while back but it disappeared. Storm is an omega-level mutant goddess (and now host of Eternity) and her command of the weather/atmosphere allows her to do so much more than lightning/shocks. in addition to shocks, she could be applying bleed, rupture, cold-snap, frostbite, crush, exhaustion, fatigue, concussion.

    canonically, her mutant abilities automatically adjust her physiology to off-set temperature extremes so she should be immune to cold-snap & frostbite. she has one of the strongest wills in the marvel universe and the electrical activity in her brains make it extremely hard for telepaths to manipulate her (she shutdown prof x when he tried to forcibly enter her mind) so she should be immune (or at the very least highly resistant) to any debuffs that are psychic/telepathic in nature (e.g. reverse controls).
  • ChovnerChovner Member Posts: 1,352 ★★★★★
    Psycho-Mid, I mean Man (he’s not even mid, he’s terrible)
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 658 ★★★
    They can redeem cull they can redeem namor
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 658 ★★★
    GORR - I don’t know what they were thinking with this guy. He has the damage but so little utility. He takes more bleed poison and shock damage that he can heal from and he doesn’t even remove the regen modification that poison has . If bastion can ignore that so can he. Give him something else rather than mostly sp3 damage and make him more versatile. Make him resistance to bleed poison damage for each buff on him and give him back willpower. His regen isn’t even that good unless he’s almost dead so there is no need tor remove willpower, he’s really not that guy. Make intercepts a way to give him shadow magic buffs. And give him something cool like nullify immunity most cosmics have something like that nowadays. Let him power steal or have resistance to degen or something unique to make him stand out. He’s more of a trap defender nowadays so make him a decent dual threat
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 337
    edited July 3

    GORR - I don’t know what they were thinking with this guy. He has the damage but so little utility. He takes more bleed poison and shock damage that he can heal from and he doesn’t even remove the regen modification that poison has . If bastion can ignore that so can he. Give him something else rather than mostly sp3 damage and make him more versatile. Make him resistance to bleed poison damage for each buff on him and give him back willpower. His regen isn’t even that good unless he’s almost dead so there is no need tor remove willpower, he’s really not that guy. Make intercepts a way to give him shadow magic buffs. And give him something cool like nullify immunity most cosmics have something like that nowadays. Let him power steal or have resistance to degen or something unique to make him stand out. He’s more of a trap defender nowadays so make him a decent dual threat

    You had me till the thing of making him more of a defender

    Just boost his Regen and add Immunity to regen rate modification, about the Intercept to get new shadow buffs i agree

    And resistence for effects based on how many shadow buffs he has
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,231 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Psycho man. He's had a buff before.

    That wans't even a buff but a Bug fix and extra seconds on his furies,even at that time it was soo insignificant that people don't even consider It happend
    It was a buff regardless of whether you liked it or not
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,231 ★★★★★

    GORR - I don’t know what they were thinking with this guy. He has the damage but so little utility. He takes more bleed poison and shock damage that he can heal from and he doesn’t even remove the regen modification that poison has . If bastion can ignore that so can he. Give him something else rather than mostly sp3 damage and make him more versatile. Make him resistance to bleed poison damage for each buff on him and give him back willpower. His regen isn’t even that good unless he’s almost dead so there is no need tor remove willpower, he’s really not that guy. Make intercepts a way to give him shadow magic buffs. And give him something cool like nullify immunity most cosmics have something like that nowadays. Let him power steal or have resistance to degen or something unique to make him stand out. He’s more of a trap defender nowadays so make him a decent dual threat

    The debuff healing is for defense not offense
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 337
    edited July 3

    Buttehrs said:

    Psycho man. He's had a buff before.

    That wans't even a buff but a Bug fix and extra seconds on his furies,even at that time it was soo insignificant that people don't even consider It happend
    It was a buff regardless of whether you liked it or not
    Who likes 2 extra seconds on fury buffs?

    Nobody consider this thing existed for a reason and we still don't know why they changed that in specific
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 337

    GORR - I don’t know what they were thinking with this guy. He has the damage but so little utility. He takes more bleed poison and shock damage that he can heal from and he doesn’t even remove the regen modification that poison has . If bastion can ignore that so can he. Give him something else rather than mostly sp3 damage and make him more versatile. Make him resistance to bleed poison damage for each buff on him and give him back willpower. His regen isn’t even that good unless he’s almost dead so there is no need tor remove willpower, he’s really not that guy. Make intercepts a way to give him shadow magic buffs. And give him something cool like nullify immunity most cosmics have something like that nowadays. Let him power steal or have resistance to degen or something unique to make him stand out. He’s more of a trap defender nowadays so make him a decent dual threat

    The debuff healing is for defense not offense
    It's very clutch on offense depending or opponent or node,it can easily be a live saver
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 337

    Buttehrs said:

    Psycho man. He's had a buff before.

    That wans't even a buff but a Bug fix and extra seconds on his furies,even at that time it was soo insignificant that people don't even consider It happend
    It was a buff regardless of whether you liked it or not
    Who likes 2 extra seconds on fury buffs?

    Nobody consider this thing existed for a reason and we still don't know why they changed that in specific
    It was actually 6 seconds and still not make a difference for him,how did they fumble something that was just add numbers

    old habits don't change
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,701 ★★★★★
    Morning star should be the one who should get a tune up. Make her ramp up short, just increase base attack.

    She is one best standalone mystic champ and solid champ over all
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