Also, if you haven't done act 9 yet the you're way behind on progression to compete in battlegrounds. Concentrate on that for a bit
So unless I've fully completed act 9 I shouldn't be able to use battlegrounds? The mode Kabam chose to be important enough that it's literally the main focus of how to progress in this Summoner fest event. I wonder what percentage of players have fully completed act 9 and are worthy of playing in this game mode. Our perhaps we're just fish food for the whales to beat us and waste our time in unfair match ups so Kabam can make money?
P.S. I didn't really R2 War Machine. It was a joke as I was trying to emphasize that no game mode, especially not such an important one for your roster, should be dependant on who you pull in crystals. If it's a competitive game mode let it be competitive based on skill as everyone here keeps saying and not based on "I have 3 rows of R4 monsters, so you'll never win these match ups unless you go spend $10,000 and get a few rows of R4 champs yourself"
No, you can play battlegrounds, but you'll hit a wall due to roster size and strength at some point. That might be at vibranium, it might be at uru, it might be at gamma etc. That's how it works mate, you improve and come back again next season stronger.
Fair matchmaking complaints always boil down to wanting an easy ride to the rewards but that's not how the game mode works, everyone is in the same pot and you have to fight anyone in your tier at any time.
Kabam said they will release a little league version where accounts like yours and others can compete against each other. So you'll get your 'fairer' match ups there and it might be more fun for you, but don't come on here complaining when the rewards aren't very good.
Also, if you haven't done act 9 yet the you're way behind on progression to compete in battlegrounds. Concentrate on that for a bit
So unless I've fully completed act 9 I shouldn't be able to use battlegrounds?
One reason why doing story content is really good preparation for stuff like Battlegrounds is that it forces you to fight a lot of the new tough defenders. You can choose not to do story stuff, but then you have to compete in BG with people who have done it and who have, in doing so, learnt how to fight a lot of the toughest defenders in the game. If you think "there is no way I can beat champion X" and then you see people going "you just need to know how to fight champion X", chances are that those people have done either more story content or just endgame stuff in general.
The reason a lot of people know how to fight Onslaught is because he was one of the Summer of Suffering (or whichever season it was) bosses last year. Same with Photon. Enchantress was a boss in the recent Wheel of Fate quest where you had to fight her three times with different champions - same with Bullseye. When you're forced to fight these hard defenders over and over again, you start to learn how to counter them even with less-than-ideal attackers. However, if you refrain from doing story and endgame content, you will put yourself at a disadvantage compared to other players who choose to do those things. Simply because they'll pick up things from those fights that you miss out on.
You're saying BGs the main way to progress in the game when it isn't. You cannot be valiant without completing 8.3 minimum. Therefore story mode is the main way to progress, hence people telling you to focus on that. Yes the rewards are great which can lead to progression, but the people playing BGs and doing well have all completed story mode along with majority of other quest content hence their higher ranked champs.
Also, if you haven't done act 9 yet the you're way behind on progression to compete in battlegrounds. Concentrate on that for a bit
So unless I've fully completed act 9 I shouldn't be able to use battlegrounds? The mode Kabam chose to be important enough that it's literally the main focus of how to progress in this Summoner fest event. I wonder what percentage of players have fully completed act 9 and are worthy of playing in this game mode. Our perhaps we're just fish food for the whales to beat us and waste our time in unfair match ups so Kabam can make money?
P.S. I didn't really R2 War Machine. It was a joke as I was trying to emphasize that no game mode, especially not such an important one for your roster, should be dependant on who you pull in crystals. If it's a competitive game mode let it be competitive based on skill as everyone here keeps saying and not based on "I have 3 rows of R4 monsters, so you'll never win these match ups unless you go spend $10,000 and get a few rows of R4 champs yourself"
BGs isn't important for your roster. BGs also isn't the main focus for the summoner fest unless you are referring to the Battle realm brawl. Kabam only sees BGs as the mode that give whales a reason to spend. Some people only play two matches of BGs a day, this tells you everything you need to know about the people you are facing.
Bg match up has been junk for ages kabam keeps putting me against legends all the time to the point where I must beat them now and the game isn’t fair you face someone with all them sick champs ranked up and with the nodes your likely to lose. This isn’t fair then your ai also isn’t fair to many variable what make it something I don’t even try in because it’s a computer yet again deciding match ups and deciding which champs you can access it’s junk if honest and could be so much better and more skill based. If they ever level the field give everyone same champs same ai same everything then it becomes skill based and not until. If I was a YouTuber spending grands a month on new champs and have a stacked roster then I get faced with a paragon with 5 x 6 star max how is this fair or skill based the guy has lost and most know this that’s why they always forfiet the fights. The ai also sets my iPhone on fire and drains its battery crazy. I. Phone be on 20 percent and the battery good get into 3rd battle phones dead lol. Heat coming from the phone would cook an egg. I notice everytime the ai pulls its stunts my phone starts to melt so I reboot it go back and it’s fine but you can’t do that in bgs. I get phone heat in all game modes randomly when the game starts acting up. But don’t expect kabam to listen or do anything cause there to busy making the sequel to doom cycle 2 what’s even lamer than the first drop lol or listening to backwards people with no skill begging mini games cause they can’t play. People complain about bgs for 2 years now has it changed ? NOPE LOL
I agree with this 100%. Piss off to the people saying it’s a skill issue cause it’s not. It’s mostly a match making issue. I am in Uru 2 and today I was matched with a Gamma 3 with a stacked deck. R4/ 7*s across the top with all the heavy hitters. Kabam, most I talk to are getting fed up. Either fix the match making or get rid of the mode. I won’t grind it anymore. Keep your radiance.
I have fought about 30 battlegrounds matches this season. EVERY SINGLE ONE I EITHER FOUGHT ONSLAUGHT, ENCHANTRESS OR BULLSEYE. Usually more than one of them and often all 3. There is zero fun to be had. You just need to hope that the computer allows you to pick a counter for the same **** fights over and over again. But if that's not enough. Every single account I go up against is somehow stacked with R3 and R4 7 stars. No matter what level I'm on. Diamond 5, you're going up against a stacked account. Platinum, stacked account. There seems to be no limit to these stacked accounts and even if you fight perfectly you simply lose because you take longer to win the fight because the health pool of your opponent is triple yours. Now I know a lot of these accounts are cheating and no matter how much Kabam says they've gotten rid of a bunch of cheater accounts, they don't seem to have the capability to get rid of all of them or even most of them. So just call it a day Kabam and fold this God awful game mode. NO ONE ENJOYS IT. We just play it because it's basically the only way we can get T4A and rank up our champs. Please Kabam figure out a different way to get people to spend money that isn't such a waste of time on everyone else.
This is coming from a Valient player. I'm not coming from a small account that just can't hang. I have less than 100 quests till I'm finished act 9 and I can quit this game knowing I finished it. I can't wait for that day because this game sucks but we're all addicted.
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Agree. Worst addition to the game EVER. And if you want to stay competetive, you HAVE to do it. Ignoring it is not an option 🤢🤮
OK, what? BG's IS the only really competitive game mode unless you're playing high tier war. So exactly how do you "have to" do bg's to stay competitive? Maybe just don't compete if you don't wanna be competitive?
It's also obvious you haven't played this game nearly as long as alot of us if you think BG's is the worst addition the game has ever had. BG's kept the game alive, if nothing else.
Agree. Worst addition to the game EVER. And if you want to stay competetive, you HAVE to do it. Ignoring it is not an option 🤢🤮
OK, what? BG's IS the only really competitive game mode unless you're playing high tier war. So exactly how do you "have to" do bg's to stay competitive? Maybe just don't compete if you don't wanna be competitive?
It's also obvious you haven't played this game nearly as long as alot of us if you think BG's is the worst addition the game has ever had. BG's kept the game alive, if nothing else.
Go do content, clearly you have some left to do.
I have been playing this game for 8 years i can say that battleground is the worse game content. I also hate it to the core.
Yes may we are fully addicted to the game it could important. But its definitely hassle game mode for some one free and fun to play and and not being in alliance.
In addition to the above problems i can say a few more
1. Network issues, often I ban 3 champs in time and keep looking at other champs to plan, but kabam skips last ban and randomly bans some other champion 2. Network issues, sometimes who ever has to pick first get auto selected with out giving the chance to pick. It happened both to me and my opponent 3. Network issues, sometimes network disconnects exactly when i am finishing the fight 4. Not able to have same champions twice. For eg., i like playing with warlock and I have hime both 7*3 and 6*5 acended. But i can bring only one of them. Why should not allow both. 5. Stupid nodes in every season . I know applies to both players but player some of defenders get insane advantage 6. Wrong match ups, Every season its same story for me. I start at diamond 5. First 2 weeks, either other player quits looking at my 7* roster or i get very easy wins. Then vibranim 3,2, 1 i have to work a bit. Once i enter gladiator circuit, new nodes come in and then i go against insane rostars with 7*4. Even if i try, i just loose very badly leaving frustrated . There nothing fun in this cycle. 7. Energy requirement. Its been 30 seasons and still kabam wants us to use 15 energy points for a match which would end up with frustration 8.Off season, honestly i like it way more than the season. It just takes 5 energy points, often will have same level of match . And even if i loose i dont have to worry about track or points. I wish offseason always exists
I agree with this 100%. Piss off to the people saying it’s a skill issue cause it’s not. It’s mostly a match making issue. I am in Uru 2 and today I was matched with a Gamma 3 with a stacked deck. R4/ 7*s across the top with all the heavy hitters. Kabam, most I talk to are getting fed up. Either fix the match making or get rid of the mode. I won’t grind it anymore. Keep your radiance.
No the issue is you've all got poverty rosters (trappy reference) and are incapable of accepting where your level is in the gc. You have a ceiling in the mode, we all do. Where that ceiling is depends on your roster and your skill level.
The moment you accept this fact, the better you will feel when playing the mode. If you can't, there will be a baby league coming soon you can play.
Agree. Worst addition to the game EVER. And if you want to stay competetive, you HAVE to do it. Ignoring it is not an option 🤢🤮
OK, what? BG's IS the only really competitive game mode unless you're playing high tier war. So exactly how do you "have to" do bg's to stay competitive? Maybe just don't compete if you don't wanna be competitive?
It's also obvious you haven't played this game nearly as long as alot of us if you think BG's is the worst addition the game has ever had. BG's kept the game alive, if nothing else.
Go do content, clearly you have some left to do.
I played since December 2014 🤷🏼♂️ When there was no aw, no BGs, 5 champ arena etc.
Neither Onslaught nor Enchantress or Bullseye have few specific counters.
If there are so many counters to these three champs than why do people keep putting them in on defense. And I don't mean most of the time. I mean 100% of the time. Go into any battlegrounds fight and don't ban any of these 3 champs and I'll bet you anything you want that you'll see them on defense if the computer allows them to be picked. I guess every person playing this game, and let's be honest the auto bots playing the game as well, didn't get your memo that these 3 champs are so easy to beat. Just learn to fight them. Learn to fight a R4 max sig 7 star Onslaught with your R2 War Machine. No problem!!!
Because the alternatives are champs that can be beaten even more easily without a counter.
Yes, these are some of the best defenders in the game, that’s a fact. But that doesn’t mean that they have ‘few’ counters.
Enchantress can be beaten by anyone, she doesn’t even need a counter. Just good gameplay and luck. Miss counter makes her less rng-based though.
Bullseye has Gentle, Okoye, Bastion, Onslaught, Sinister, and Dazzler as hard counters, but among the softer counters there are a myriad champs that either counter evade or don’t bleed that can still take Bullseye, like Dust, Guardian, Kushala, Ironheart, and more.
Onslaught also doesn’t need countering, he moreso just needs you to avoid certain things like the debuffs he’s resistant to or high crit rate. Once you can dex his SP1, anyone who doesn’t do those two things can beat him.
Listen Y'all, I get that it's a business at the end of the day and that they need enough ftp players to build opponents for the spenders. It just sucks feeling taken advantage of. But I know my complaints won't actually do anything. I know Kabam doesn't care and won't do anything unless they lose money. That's why i was hoping that all those YouTubers that were threatening boycott over this exact issue a few months ago would have had some balls and actually gone through with it. Then Kabam was listening and actually doing something. Us as a community need to stand up against this **** but instead you have a bunch of junkies here defending their drug because they don't want it to go away even if they're being treated like s**t
I’m gonna keep it real, I do agree that Battlegrounds needs a more casual-friendly version of it for people to play. You can’t lock the only real-time PVP mode in the game behind high progression requirements.
But. I don’t see anything wrong with adding fest points to BGs. The rewards in the fest are not light. A free 7 star version of two champs being buffed in August, a 7 star Titan crystal, a 7 star awakening gem crystal, a full tier 7 basic catalyst. These are all endgame rewards, so obviously you must do endgame stuff to get them. One of such proving grounds is BGs.
Also, I’m F2P. Stop making blanket statements that F2P players are getting shafted by the fest. If you’re endgame, regardless of whether you’re F2P or not, you can make the final milestones.
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Fair matchmaking complaints always boil down to wanting an easy ride to the rewards but that's not how the game mode works, everyone is in the same pot and you have to fight anyone in your tier at any time.
Kabam said they will release a little league version where accounts like yours and others can compete against each other. So you'll get your 'fairer' match ups there and it might be more fun for you, but don't come on here complaining when the rewards aren't very good.
The reason a lot of people know how to fight Onslaught is because he was one of the Summer of Suffering (or whichever season it was) bosses last year. Same with Photon. Enchantress was a boss in the recent Wheel of Fate quest where you had to fight her three times with different champions - same with Bullseye. When you're forced to fight these hard defenders over and over again, you start to learn how to counter them even with less-than-ideal attackers. However, if you refrain from doing story and endgame content, you will put yourself at a disadvantage compared to other players who choose to do those things. Simply because they'll pick up things from those fights that you miss out on.
At the end, did 30 matches for 0 pts. Lose win lose win win lose lose win win win lose lose lose… again and again… all that for 0 pts…
Many friends think like me…
Battleground become a nightmare and lose and fun aspect little by little.
Poor paragon getting put into this that’s not right kabam. It’s not right you make me fight accounts double mine who spend when I don’t either
Kabam, most I talk to are getting fed up. Either fix the match making or get rid of the mode. I won’t grind it anymore. Keep your radiance.
BG's IS the only really competitive game mode unless you're playing high tier war.
So exactly how do you "have to" do bg's to stay competitive?
Maybe just don't compete if you don't wanna be competitive?
It's also obvious you haven't played this game nearly as long as alot of us if you think BG's is the worst addition the game has ever had.
BG's kept the game alive, if nothing else.
Go do content, clearly you have some left to do.
Yes may we are fully addicted to the game it could important. But its definitely hassle game mode for some one free and fun to play and and not being in alliance.
In addition to the above problems i can say a few more
1. Network issues, often I ban 3 champs in time and keep looking at other champs to plan, but kabam skips last ban and randomly bans some other champion
2. Network issues, sometimes who ever has to pick first get auto selected with out giving the chance to pick. It happened both to me and my opponent
3. Network issues, sometimes network disconnects exactly when i am finishing the fight
4. Not able to have same champions twice. For eg., i like playing with warlock and I have hime both 7*3 and 6*5 acended. But i can bring only one of them. Why should not allow both.
5. Stupid nodes in every season . I know applies to both players but player some of defenders get insane advantage
6. Wrong match ups, Every season its same story for me. I start at diamond 5. First 2 weeks, either other player quits looking at my 7* roster or i get very easy wins. Then vibranim 3,2, 1 i have to work a bit. Once i enter gladiator circuit, new nodes come in and then i go against insane rostars with 7*4. Even if i try, i just loose very badly leaving frustrated . There nothing fun in this cycle.
7. Energy requirement. Its been 30 seasons and still kabam wants us to use 15 energy points for a match which would end up with frustration
8.Off season, honestly i like it way more than the season. It just takes 5 energy points, often will have same level of match . And even if i loose i dont have to worry about track or points. I wish offseason always exists
The moment you accept this fact, the better you will feel when playing the mode. If you can't, there will be a baby league coming soon you can play.
Always cleared EVERYTHING in the game. All years.
Yes, these are some of the best defenders in the game, that’s a fact. But that doesn’t mean that they have ‘few’ counters.
Enchantress can be beaten by anyone, she doesn’t even need a counter. Just good gameplay and luck. Miss counter makes her less rng-based though.
Bullseye has Gentle, Okoye, Bastion, Onslaught, Sinister, and Dazzler as hard counters, but among the softer counters there are a myriad champs that either counter evade or don’t bleed that can still take Bullseye, like Dust, Guardian, Kushala, Ironheart, and more.
Onslaught also doesn’t need countering, he moreso just needs you to avoid certain things like the debuffs he’s resistant to or high crit rate. Once you can dex his SP1, anyone who doesn’t do those two things can beat him.
But. I don’t see anything wrong with adding fest points to BGs. The rewards in the fest are not light. A free 7 star version of two champs being buffed in August, a 7 star Titan crystal, a 7 star awakening gem crystal, a full tier 7 basic catalyst. These are all endgame rewards, so obviously you must do endgame stuff to get them. One of such proving grounds is BGs.
Also, I’m F2P. Stop making blanket statements that F2P players are getting shafted by the fest. If you’re endgame, regardless of whether you’re F2P or not, you can make the final milestones.