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  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 21,053 Guardian


    Here’s a summary of how my main and two alts did in the event:



    Both alts used nothing but free energy and energy refills from gameplay (i.e. no units). My main used about 6000 units for energy refills on top of free energy, and played about 1000 rounds total across three weeks.

    I pushed somewhat harder in the last week, thinking that maybe some players would be doing the same and I didn’t want to drop out of top 200 after making it in the first two weeks, and that was apparently the case as 30k more points equated to identical rank in week 3.

    Interestingly, my alts both landed in 2-5% in two weeks and 6-10% in one week, but landed in 2-5% overall. My guess is that on or above ranking 1% players were pushing to maintain rank, but below that players were not consistent in their efforts and did not place consistently in all three weeks, so slipping in one week did not cost rank.

    I’m kinda curious to know what percentage of players just did the 10k minimum and stopped. Unfortunately, I did not try to do that with an alt to peg the score. I was busy traveling for a big chunk of the three weeks and didn’t have the time.

    Overall, I’d say that as a replacement for a side quest, this was pretty good. It was somewhat engaging but simple, and it did not take a lot of effort to max out the milestones - which is essentially getting side quest level rewards. I could see this coming back a couple times a year, with different scoring mechanics or strategies (emulating poker is not something this has to do: clearly there are relatively easy ways to modify it to make it different or add additional strategy components to it).

    As to the competitive side of it, I would say it is in many ways more enjoyable to grind than arena, and getting a 7* champ (even if it is not a top tier one) for the amount of effort put into it was reasonable compared to what it would likely have been in the arena if a 7* ranked reward existed. Of course, how much effort went into ranked scoring would have been a lot higher if it was a top chase champ, and it is tricky to extrapolate how high it would have gone.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,375 ★★★★★
    He is a useful addition to any roster.
    GG top 200 guys.
    Sedlyf to 201 and below.
  • JerryJiverJerryJiver Member Posts: 122
    DNA3000 said:

    OldManHop said:

    Point is... it's 99% luck.

    Its probably more like 99.9% luck. I haven't calculated the precise odds of drawing into a straight flush under these rules, but my guess is straight flush is probably on the order of a thousand to one assuming you aggressively go after them.

    That of course doesn't mean you'll get it after a thousand hands either, just that statistically that's probably close to the average across all players. I would imagine many players getting it in hundreds of hands, and others taking tens of thousands of hands (if they even play that many).
    Pretty close to what i found. i did a simulation for fun with a simple set of rules. didn't perform as well as you (373 pts/game), but the distribution of hands was reasonably close.

    Simulated 100000 games.
    Accumulated points: 37281155
    Average pts/game: 372.81

    Hand Type Distribution:
    nothing: 7408 (7.41%)
    pair: 12273 (12.27%)
    near_straight: 11333 (11.33%)
    near_flush: 26931 (26.93%)
    two_pair: 13714 (13.71%)
    three_of_a_kind: 7216 (7.22%)
    straight: 3729 (3.73%)
    flush: 12646 (12.65%)
    full_house: 3829 (3.83%)
    four_of_a_kind: 837 (0.84%)
    straight_flush: 78 (0.08%)
    royal_flush: 6 (0.01%)
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 21,053 Guardian

    DNA3000 said:

    OldManHop said:

    Point is... it's 99% luck.

    Its probably more like 99.9% luck. I haven't calculated the precise odds of drawing into a straight flush under these rules, but my guess is straight flush is probably on the order of a thousand to one assuming you aggressively go after them.

    That of course doesn't mean you'll get it after a thousand hands either, just that statistically that's probably close to the average across all players. I would imagine many players getting it in hundreds of hands, and others taking tens of thousands of hands (if they even play that many).
    Pretty close to what i found. i did a simulation for fun with a simple set of rules. didn't perform as well as you (373 pts/game), but the distribution of hands was reasonably close.

    Simulated 100000 games.
    Accumulated points: 37281155
    Average pts/game: 372.81

    Hand Type Distribution:
    nothing: 7408 (7.41%)
    pair: 12273 (12.27%)
    near_straight: 11333 (11.33%)
    near_flush: 26931 (26.93%)
    two_pair: 13714 (13.71%)
    three_of_a_kind: 7216 (7.22%)
    straight: 3729 (3.73%)
    flush: 12646 (12.65%)
    full_house: 3829 (3.83%)
    four_of_a_kind: 837 (0.84%)
    straight_flush: 78 (0.08%)
    royal_flush: 6 (0.01%)
    My final average was 370.2 pts/match (pre-3x multipler) which is for all intents and purposes identical to your simulated runs. The biggest difference was your simulated runs had a lot more four-to-the-straight hands, while my actual scores had somewhat more four-to-the-flush and actual flushes. My guess is that's probably because your heuristics favored keeping three to the straight more often than my own playing strategy.

    If straight flush and royal flush had a combined 0.09% rate (granted, the error bars for those numbers is relatively high given the numbers) then I was probably slightly unlikely having done on the order of 1000-1100 matches I probably had a two in three chance to get one of them. If, say, the vast majority of players did the minimum for milestones, that would amount to on the order of 40ish matches per player, and one out of 28 of them getting one of those two hands across the entire event (this also assumes playing a reasonable strategy).

    Not everyone played it of course, but that's still a pretty decent chance to get one of the two legend badges if you did.
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