An idea for the T1 Alphas

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  • rwhackrwhack Member Posts: 1,061 ★★★
    edited January 2018
    rwhack wrote: »
    It was stated that a Mod should comment on it. I reiterated what was commented by a Mod today. That's it. If you want to keep spamming about it, that's up to you.

    I’ve never seen a thread where you couldn’t find a way to defend kabam particularly when they go tone deaf like with the t1a capacity and availability. I can’t figure out if you play at a significant level because of how out of touch you seem. To be clear, you think we have plenty of t1a right? I’d love to find your IGN to confirm what I suspect. I guess if you’re an incredibly casual player who doesn’t spend at all the t1a situation is fine. Other than that it is a failure. The mod addressing it consisted of saying “keep your eyes open for future offers”. The New Years Day one was so bad I passed.

    This is not about me. This is about Alphas. The comment made no reference to Offers.
    http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/41894/announcing-event-quest-the-age-of-sentry-updated-jan-2nd-21-18-pm-pdt/p4

    If you're trying to imply what level I'm at has any bearing on the subject, you would not be correct. It's not about a T1A shortage. It's about Players that want to Rank 5*s faster. Simply because they're in the game. There's no shortage. There is a limit that you can get in a month, which allows to Rank a few 5*s. The problem is people want to Rank more 5*s, faster. A 5* is not a 4* and you won't be able to Rank it as fast, no matter what people believe will change with 6*s. Which means some Resources will take time to collect, whether Alphas or Cats. Increasing one is not as easy as throwing more into the game. That affects the other Resources. If you increase one, another will run out faster. It's easy for those who have hoards of T4s to say, make that the bottleneck. Problem is, that affects everyone in the system trying to Rank. There is no significant issue with availability. It's a want. People want more to Rank 5*s faster.

    I’m not trying to imply I am saying a guy like you with only 3 r5 4 stars in his profile lacks any perspective on the game. Yes, I found your profile.

    If a guy like you or 100s like you quit tomorrow it would have no impact on kabam.
  • rwhackrwhack Member Posts: 1,061 ★★★
    For perspective I had more r5 4 stars than you 2 years ago. You’ve been on the forum for at least a year and a half. I’m part of the group that gives you a game to play and keeps the lights on. If 100s of is quit at once it would do damage.
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  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Member Posts: 2,887 ★★★★★
    rwhack wrote: »
    For perspective I had more r5 4 stars than you 2 years ago. You’ve been on the forum for at least a year and a half. I’m part of the group that gives you a game to play and keeps the lights on. If 100s of is quit at once it would do damage.

    I'm pretty sure you didn't have that 2 years ago...

    Also I only have 3 r4s... what does that show? I have 12 in the inventory, 2 expiring and a fully maxed 5*.

    So just having 3 r4s isn't a bad thing, he might be waiting on champs.

    I disagree with GW points in this post too, but I'm not putting up with you saying that you had 3 r4s 2 YEARS ago 😂
  • BenberryBenberry Member Posts: 77
    will 6*'s require t1a? it takes 5 to rank a 5*. I am always doing t1 arena and monthly quests for t1. There needs to be an easier way to rank 5*'s. Make more available in glory, 5 is not enough. I have T4cc and basic. Please make t1 arena more then once a week or make it easier to acquire the T1 to rank 5*'s. This is getting old real quick.
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  • Speeds80Speeds80 Member Posts: 2,017 ★★★★
    @DarkestDestroyer that was 3 r5 4*s not r4 5*s
    And seriously if they don't want the top to accelerate their ranking why not make the alphas just cost a few glory, line half what they do now, would at least placate us,
    And yes I am in full agreement the best solution is to cut he 5* rankup requirements, they are out of line with what is available in the game, (and miles it if line if you don't count 100% of your glory use)
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    See, this is part of the reason why Threads go off. It always takes a personal turn. I'm not commenting on my Profile. I didn't share any details of that, and it has nothing to do with the discussion. The only purpose that line of thinking has is to shame someone out of the conversation, or to discredit any points they make with their experience. It's not valid because anyone can understand the amount it takes to Rank a 5*, the availability of them in the game, and the fact that it takes longer to Rank a 5*. I don't accept that there is a shortage because there is no shortage of them in the game. They flow in every month. What I'm saying is it's a want. The Players want to Rank their 5*s as fast as possible because 6*s are coming and they no longer care about 4*s. I could care less if people ask for what they want. More power to them. I'm making the distinction between want and need.
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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    edited January 2018
    That's also part of the problem. If you focus on getting Cats in Maps 5 and 6, you end up with more than you can use after a while. I understand that your Roster is large, but you're not supposed to have it all Ranked overnight. Some things take time to gather.
  • beyonder8421beyonder8421 Member Posts: 881 ★★★
    I understand that 5 stars are supposed to take some time to rank up, it makes sense if everyone started playing this at the same time.

    But that is not true, and some players will never be able to catch up to older or big players if resources are not available to them.

    Since r5 4stars are stronger than r2 5 stars, it is also easy to dismiss this need for alphas. But I already have all the teams of r5's I needed, and now it's time to form 5 star teams that I can actually use to beat content in the game. In theory I should be able to get around 7 alphas a week... perhaps? In a good week. (not counting monthly stuff and calendars).

    So yes, Alphas are available, but I think 5 stars are more available now and rank up cost is too much. So the problem here is the introduction of 6 stars. If a new tier made 5 stars easier to get, it was kind of obvious that players were going to need more resources. It was to be expected. We didn't have this problem ranking up 4 stars. Now we have to avoid taking 4 stars to rank 3.

    So my suggestion would be... if you want to make progress slow... place alphas as reward for harder content, perhaps a new daily or weekly quest only for alphas or alpha fragments (but not the joke proving grounds is). So maybe we can have one or two extra alphas a week.

    I would also overhaul the catalyst arenas. I do not see the point of the class catalyst arena. I refuse to spend all those battlechips and gold for ISO. Merge them into one and make it more frequent. The alpha and the t4b could be milestones, and perhaps keep the t4cc crystal as a rank reward (for the few players that actually invest in that arena to win). idk, people will probably hate this idea.

    Most of the resources required for rank ups are more available now, so it seems to me like this shortage of alphas was not really intended to slow progress.
  • DTMelodicMetalDTMelodicMetal Member Posts: 2,785 ★★★★★
    It won't be possible to accurately assess the tier 1 alpha situation until 6*s are released. If 6*s don't require tier 1 alphas to be ranked up, the community may ease up on requests to increase means of acquiring tier 1 alphas, at least to some extent. Even so, five tier 1 alphas being required to take a 5* champion from rank 1 to rank 2 seems like an excessive requirement, as tier 1 alphas are the only resource in the game that have the same requirements at adjacent champion ranks, which is five tier 1 alphas to rank up a 5* champion to both rank 2 and to rank 3. This is not the case for all other resources required to rank up 1* to 5* champions at all ranks (tier 1-5 basic catalysts, tier 1-4 class catalysts, tier 2 alpha catalysts).

    I'm sure there are players who disagree with me. Given the tier 2 alpha requirements to take 5* champions past rank 3 I don't think restructuring the tier 1 alpha requirement to take 5* champions to rank 2 would have detrimental effects to the game. AQ rewards are determine by prestige and players who say they can't rank up their 5*s due to lack of tier 1 alphas likely have higher prestige 5*s at rank 3 and 4, and placing 4* champions who are rank 5 is identical to placing 5* champions who are rank 3.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    See, that's where I think people are jumping the gun. They're more available because of the Uncollected Rewards mostly, with a few more sources. The introduction of 6*s doesn't literally phase out everything before it. Meaning a 5* is still as rare as a 5* is, just that some have more. I agree, DT. I think the hype about Ranking 5*s is premature because 6*s aren't even playable yet, and even when they are, they won't be flowing through the game that quickly. I think the whole "5* is the new 4*" perspective is not accurate because those rarities still hold the same value they did.
  • CloserByTomorrowCloserByTomorrow Member Posts: 145
    See, this is part of the reason why Threads go off. It always takes a personal turn. I'm not commenting on my Profile. I didn't share any details of that, and it has nothing to do with the discussion. The only purpose that line of thinking has is to shame someone out of the conversation, or to discredit any points they make with their experience. It's not valid because anyone can understand the amount it takes to Rank a 5*, the availability of them in the game, and the fact that it takes longer to Rank a 5*. I don't accept that there is a shortage because there is no shortage of them in the game. They flow in every month. What I'm saying is it's a want. The Players want to Rank their 5*s as fast as possible because 6*s are coming and they no longer care about 4*s. I could care less if people ask for what they want. More power to them. I'm making the distinction between want and need.

    Bro wtf are you babbling about? You don’t need to play this game. You WANT to play it. And you NEED alphas to rank the characters you want to play with. There is no difference between the two. No distinction. Everything about this game is a want. Wtf is wrong with you
  • rwhackrwhack Member Posts: 1,061 ★★★
    See, this is part of the reason why Threads go off. It always takes a personal turn. I'm not commenting on my Profile. I didn't share any details of that, and it has nothing to do with the discussion. The only purpose that line of thinking has is to shame someone out of the conversation, or to discredit any points they make with their experience. It's not valid because anyone can understand the amount it takes to Rank a 5*, the availability of them in the game, and the fact that it takes longer to Rank a 5*. I don't accept that there is a shortage because there is no shortage of them in the game. They flow in every month. What I'm saying is it's a want. The Players want to Rank their 5*s as fast as possible because 6*s are coming and they no longer care about 4*s. I could care less if people ask for what they want. More power to them. I'm making the distinction between want and need.

    You don’t have any 5 stars in your profile. You don’t need or want t1a because you basically play the game with players that I had 2 years ago
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  • rwhackrwhack Member Posts: 1,061 ★★★
    rwhack wrote: »
    For perspective I had more r5 4 stars than you 2 years ago. You’ve been on the forum for at least a year and a half. I’m part of the group that gives you a game to play and keeps the lights on. If 100s of is quit at once it would do damage.

    I'm pretty sure you didn't have that 2 years ago...

    Also I only have 3 r4s... what does that show? I have 12 in the inventory, 2 expiring and a fully maxed 5*.

    So just having 3 r4s isn't a bad thing, he might be waiting on champs.

    I disagree with GW points in this post too, but I'm not putting up with you saying that you had 3 r4s 2 YEARS ago 😂
    Go back, read what I wrote. Let it sink in. I had 3 r5 4 stars two years ago.

    I love when someone tries to laugh at someone while not knowing how blind they were. It’s quality entertainment.
  • rwhackrwhack Member Posts: 1,061 ★★★
    See, that's where I think people are jumping the gun. They're more available because of the Uncollected Rewards mostly, with a few more sources. The introduction of 6*s doesn't literally phase out everything before it. Meaning a 5* is still as rare as a 5* is, just that some have more. I agree, DT. I think the hype about Ranking 5*s is premature because 6*s aren't even playable yet, and even when they are, they won't be flowing through the game that quickly. I think the whole "5* is the new 4*" perspective is not accurate because those rarities still hold the same value they did.
    Says the guy with 3 r5 4 stars in his profile. Pretty sure LeBron James doesn’t take dunking advice from my daughter. She’s 5’3”. Your perspective on this is similar to her perspective on dunking yet you post prolifically.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    edited January 2018
    Do you have any actual points to make, or are you just trying to incite negativity by trying to bully me out of the conversation? You should realize by now that doesn't have an effect on me. Let me know if you have something to present that counters my opinions and we'll talk.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    See, this is part of the reason why Threads go off. It always takes a personal turn. I'm not commenting on my Profile. I didn't share any details of that, and it has nothing to do with the discussion. The only purpose that line of thinking has is to shame someone out of the conversation, or to discredit any points they make with their experience. It's not valid because anyone can understand the amount it takes to Rank a 5*, the availability of them in the game, and the fact that it takes longer to Rank a 5*. I don't accept that there is a shortage because there is no shortage of them in the game. They flow in every month. What I'm saying is it's a want. The Players want to Rank their 5*s as fast as possible because 6*s are coming and they no longer care about 4*s. I could care less if people ask for what they want. More power to them. I'm making the distinction between want and need.

    Bro wtf are you babbling about? You don’t need to play this game. You WANT to play it. And you NEED alphas to rank the characters you want to play with. There is no difference between the two. No distinction. Everything about this game is a want. Wtf is wrong with you

    That's a bit narrow in synopsis. What I mean is there's a difference between a need for Alphas because of a deficiency, and a want for Ranking 5*s faster to increase the Alphas. There isn't a need technically because there are lots of Alphas present. It's a want. Mainly because 6*s are coming, and people are driving to Rank their 5* Roster as fast as possible.
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