Nerfing Champs.....
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Bit of a rant, but please bear with me.
The MCoC community kills me. There is such a big divide between the haves and the have-nots and it's making the community as a whole, weaker.
Anyone who has been around since the beginning knows that Kabam has a variety of strategies in place to get the community to spend. One of the strategies that's worked very well for them so far is to introduce content in the form of characters or nodes that are flat out tough to deal with. Champs like Magik, NC, Dormy, Mephisto, Modok, and now to a certain degree Void are money pits in AQ, Events, and AW.
I'm sure a lot of you remember the uproar about how Magik's limbo was overpowered, Dormy's degen was unfair, Mephisto's healing is insane, this node is bs....yada, yada, yada. You all need to realise that Kabam keeps these money pit strategies in place for a period of 1 to 2 months, and then introduces a means for summoners to deal with them more easily. These means are usually in the form of new champs. New characters that can deal with these "unfairly overpowered money pit champions". New champs that are themselves also money pits because Kabam makes them powerful so that they are highly desired by the community.
Enter Blade. Now let's face it. The goal of most everyone in the community is to 100% all content as cheaply as possible right? So instead of applauding someone's luck or tenacity (by saving shards) in obtaining a character such as Blade, people call for a nerf of the character. I also wouldn't doubt that these are the same people who are the most vocal about the "unfairly overpowered money pit champs". You know who you are. Acting this way only allows Kabam to line their coffers by giving them a reason to take away our means of not spending as much. I mean think about it, who are you really helping by saying a character should be nerfed? Your AW defenders? You must know by now that AW is another money pit for Kabam.
Blade is a powerful character indeed. In my opinion not as powerful as SW pre-nerf, however his skill set and abilities make him arguably the best champ "at the moment". I stress at the moment simply because the next new "unfairly overpowered money pit champ" is right around the corner. So for those of you calling for a nerf, be careful what you wish for, as you'd better have some deep pockets to deal with Kabam's latest and greatest money pit introductions.
As a disclaimer I have to say that Kabam is a business, so even though their strategies for making money may seem unscrupulous, I do admire and applaud them for the success that they have achieved thus far in their business operations.
The MCoC community kills me. There is such a big divide between the haves and the have-nots and it's making the community as a whole, weaker.
Anyone who has been around since the beginning knows that Kabam has a variety of strategies in place to get the community to spend. One of the strategies that's worked very well for them so far is to introduce content in the form of characters or nodes that are flat out tough to deal with. Champs like Magik, NC, Dormy, Mephisto, Modok, and now to a certain degree Void are money pits in AQ, Events, and AW.
I'm sure a lot of you remember the uproar about how Magik's limbo was overpowered, Dormy's degen was unfair, Mephisto's healing is insane, this node is bs....yada, yada, yada. You all need to realise that Kabam keeps these money pit strategies in place for a period of 1 to 2 months, and then introduces a means for summoners to deal with them more easily. These means are usually in the form of new champs. New characters that can deal with these "unfairly overpowered money pit champions". New champs that are themselves also money pits because Kabam makes them powerful so that they are highly desired by the community.
Enter Blade. Now let's face it. The goal of most everyone in the community is to 100% all content as cheaply as possible right? So instead of applauding someone's luck or tenacity (by saving shards) in obtaining a character such as Blade, people call for a nerf of the character. I also wouldn't doubt that these are the same people who are the most vocal about the "unfairly overpowered money pit champs". You know who you are. Acting this way only allows Kabam to line their coffers by giving them a reason to take away our means of not spending as much. I mean think about it, who are you really helping by saying a character should be nerfed? Your AW defenders? You must know by now that AW is another money pit for Kabam.
Blade is a powerful character indeed. In my opinion not as powerful as SW pre-nerf, however his skill set and abilities make him arguably the best champ "at the moment". I stress at the moment simply because the next new "unfairly overpowered money pit champ" is right around the corner. So for those of you calling for a nerf, be careful what you wish for, as you'd better have some deep pockets to deal with Kabam's latest and greatest money pit introductions.
As a disclaimer I have to say that Kabam is a business, so even though their strategies for making money may seem unscrupulous, I do admire and applaud them for the success that they have achieved thus far in their business operations.
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He’s doing exactly what they designed him to do against the champs they designed him to do it against.
I guess shoving diversity down our throats didn’t clue people in to the fact that kabam wants to end mystic wars.
Sparky is The best atm. Blade isn't quite there yet but as I have not duped him yet I don't know how strong his regen is
He’s nothing compared to SW pre-12. The comparison is laughable.
And yes, everyone with a blade knows what he’s capable of. He’s doing exactly what kabam wants. Or do you still not realize they hate mystic wars? They didn’t make money when players gave up upon seeing 17 magik and juggy’s ahead of them. Diversity. No defender kill points.
His entire purpose was to nerf your AWD. Maybe that’s why people can’t stop crying for a nerf. They ranked up champs that now get turned into confetti. So maybe do what kabam wants and place a more diverse defense.
Everyone expecting a Blade nerf when Blade is the nerf.
Yes, he isn't OP but has the abilities to power through magiks and mephisto's
The people who want him nerfed are just pathetic and jealous, that's all it is.
Wonder if you would take a car back because it's too fast?
Wonder if you would take a car back because it handles exceptionally well in the most dangerous terrain, but when you’re not up against that terrain, there are about 15 other cars faster than it.
I guess maybe if you owned that terrain and didn’t want anyone to pass through it easily, you’d try to get the car downgraded before everyone owned one.
All the players still complaining about Blade would benefit far more from spending time improving their skills. If your roster is lacking, grind arena for crystal shards. Trying to get Kabam to nerf a champion who tons of players spent months acquiring in-game resources to acquire and years to the reach the point where months of in-game resources were enough to get that champion belittles the hard work such players have invested to build their accounts.
Nailed it. I hope you get a 5* Blade next month.
MD has nofing to du with blade. Blade is good aging mysigt and it was need. To many ther not. Culd kil Magik with out. Magik Ore pover control. Im agerd. Blade and. He Can prevent node to proz it need to canche
This says it all, at one time these champs were the same as Blade, he will get his after everyone has him and a few months go by they can nerf him without rank down tickets. To think they thought Doctor Strange was OP but Blade isn't. I agree SW was stupid OP but DS allowed one to control health much in the same manner as Blade.
Comparing strange to someone who has to stop fighting, hold block but try to avoid block damage, and loses their ability to use special attacks in order to regen to a max of slightly more than 2/3 health?
Your hyperbole needs to be nerfed.
Players can ask for nerfs all they want. They have as much ability to make a nerf happen as they do to make a buff happen. Asking for nerfs will probably anger other players, but has no actual effect on causing nerfs.
If Blade is as overpowered as 11.x Strange or SW, the devs will by definition see that in their datamining reports, because that's how they define overpowered. Not based on one person's opinion, whether that is a player or even a developer. And if he does, they will do what they did with those characters. They will try to make content that levels the playing field between Blade and other high tier champions. They will probably tweak Blade's abilities in areas where there is reasonable justification - his interaction with nodes, for example. They may try to add counters to Blade in newer champions that other players can use on defense and they can use in newer content. And if all of that fails, as it did with SW, then and only then are they likely to nerf Blade.
For all of that to happen first, I wouldn't expect to see anything happen to Blade until 2019.
If you want to get Blade nerfed, don't ask for Blade to be nerfed. Use him everywhere, and convince as many players as possible to use him everywhere, whether you need him or not, and play him as well as you can so it looks like he's indestructible. This will work, if you convince a majority of the entire playerbase to join you. If you want to prevent Blade from being nerfed don't ask Blade to not be nerfed and don't bother shouting down players who do ask. Just refrain from playing him except where you think he is really necessary, don't just use him indiscriminately everywhere, occasionally die with him when you can get away with it, and figure out how to get thousands of other players to join you. Good luck either way.
That's really the only influence we have over who gets buffed and who gets nerfed. Our gameplay, and how useless or dominating any particular champion appears when we play them, and how often we play them collectively, across the entire playerbase. SW, DS, Thor? They didn't *look* overpowered. We *made* them look overpowered by playing them literally everywhere and dominating the game when we did, and when I say we, I don't just mean the best players in the game, I mean the guy that started playing yesterday and got the lucky 3* SW drops and was promptly told to clear RoL with her. *That's* what got her nerfed. Not the people asking for a nerf. They were completely irrelevant.
I think it’s brilliant game design. Kill mystic wars and let us have fun doing it. Thanks, Kabam.
That's pretty strong regen then
Calling for a nerf or a buff on the forums is futile. Hate to put it this way but Kabam isn't going to listen to a few people crying 'OP!' or 'plz nerf' and say 'Ok, we're (buffing/nerfing) them'.
It is widely known that Kabam has individual statistics for each champions including but not limited to Win/Loss ratio, total used time and etc. This isn't a conspiracy; they have in the past published some of these stats (it was revealed that OG Spidy had the highest play time of any champ in 2015 or 2016) through social media posts. Kabam uses these statistics do dictate whether a champ requires a nerf, a buff or nothing at all since they're already balanced. A prime example of this is when Magneto, both variants, got nerfed off of their 'punch bleed' on his SP1 yet nobody called for a nerf of either Magnetoes (Magneti? lol) since they were already seen as 'meh' champions in the game. This only goes to prove that Kabam has the final word, the deciding factor, not us.
So like DNA correctly pointed out, if you want a champ to get buffed or nerfed, find a way to skew the statistics in a certain direction. Tell people to use them more or less. If you want a buff, tell as many people as you can to stop using that champion entirely for any part of the game. If you want a nerf, tell people to use that champion for everything from quests to AW, AQ to alliance events. This is the best that us players can do without a widescale 'boycott!' as many people have suggested.
TL;DR: Crying for a nerf or a buff has absolutely no effect on the final decision by Kabam, assuming that there is even a decision made at all. So let people say what they want. Yeah you and I don't have the power to get Kabam to alter a specific champion to our wants and needs but we do have the power of silence, precisely meaning that we can simply not respond to buff/nerf threads.
Shame about those villain defenses getting dismantled. Eventually people will get more diverse when they keep losing easy shards out of an unwillingness to adapt to the game.
He’s not getting nerfed. RIP mystic wars 🤷🏻♂️
Those defenders were listed in the context of going against Blade. 4/40 champs can easily solo duped 4/55 AW defenders with the right matchup , such as Ultron/Vision/Magik/Rogue for Cable, Iceman/Crossbones/BW/AA for Nightcrawler, and Crossbones/Medusa/BW/Captain Marvel for Stark Spidey. My comment was a bit long, so no harm done for taking some of its specifics out of context.
Blade would take constant degeneration damage against Cable and his danger sense does nothing to reduce Nightcrawler or Stark Spidey's evade abilities. Even outside the context of Blade, defender placement is almost everything with stopping AW attackers (e.g., Cable on strike back/buffet nodes; Nightcrawler on stun immunity/breakthrough/bane nodes; Stark Spidey on power shield/debuff immunity/enhanced abilities nodes).
On another note I wonder if the same people complaining about Blade needing to be nerfed - possibly because he counters mystic wars - would throw the same fit if Kabam were to change how dexterity feeds MD by being replaced without be used. There's a simple answer to both of these things = adapt. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Same goes for losing AWs because of defender placement, but still placing the same defenders and complaining instead of trying something different.
BW is still useless since her nerf and partial un-nerfing. I'm still salty. She is so weak now that it is borderline misogynistic.
Should Blade be nerfed not at all but I’ll warn anyone right now that there is a chance it could happen I don’t like the way the post for the featured crystal came across straight away I had flags going up saying that the Blade nerf is not far away.
What needs to happen is the garbage tier champs like Luke Cage, Joe Fixit, Spider-Gwen, Netflix Daredevil, Ant-Man, Abomination, Sentry, Groot, Kamala Khan and so many more the list is to large really they need to be made better and more useful not god tier but in a place where they have a place in the game other than arena fodder