Modok auto block causing parry [Under Investigation]

THE_BmannyTHE_Bmanny Posts: 10
edited January 15 in Bugs and Known Issues
I searched the forum and didn’t find any acknowledgement of his auto block causing parry. In fact, his ability description specifically states it doesn’t cause parry (unlike Medusa). This also only seems to be happening in aw. Not questing (no masteries) or duels. We can handle some bs but getting 1 shotted by a bug is beyond frustrating and expensive. Please advise. @Kabam Miike @Kabam Wolf
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  • AxeCopFireAxeCopFire Posts: 894
    His auto-block doesn't trigger parry. He only auto-blocks 2x hits from your combo.
    What is happening, is that he is removing his own auto-block and triggering his normal block in the middle of your combo. Since it is a well-timed block, it causes parry

    This.
  • Etaki_LirakoiEtaki_Lirakoi Posts: 480
    edited January 14
    No, his auto-block can still trigger parry right now.

    Red = auto-block
    Blue = regular block
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  • will-o-wispwill-o-wisp Posts: 4,376
    The color of the shield is just a color. It doesn't identifies which block is he triggering.
  • The color of the shield is just a color. It doesn't identifies which block is he triggering.
    Then explain this.
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  • His auto-block doesn't trigger parry. He only auto-blocks 2x hits from your combo.
    What is happening, is that he is removing his own auto-block and triggering his normal block in the middle of your combo. Since it is a well-timed block, it causes parry

    The second block being well timed and therefore triggering parry doesn't make sense. He'd be hit stunned the same as every other champion is while hitting their block. The same logic also applies to stand your ground and parry working together to parry champions with rapid multiple hit heavies like Archangel, Electra, and X-23.
  • arni2arni2 Posts: 121
    Dear @Kabam Miike
    Please see this MODOK fight. you will see how he parry on auto block:
    Times:
    • 9:40
    • 9:59
    • 12:18

    I will create slow motion video to show it better:


  • DeadpoopDeadpoop Posts: 1
    My five star hero is so strong it beat a 100,000 four star
  • Please fix this. I saw another thread on this a while back and it’s still “being investigated”. This is a fairly major issue. He’s cheap enough without adding bugs to give him more buffs.
    For what it’s worth, also can confirm. Autoblock triggers parry.
  • Gladiator09Gladiator09 Posts: 313
    Ok ,, so I wasn’t interested in this post until I faced modok in aw as boss
    I was getting parried in mid combo and for some reason his sp1 was unblockable....lol
  • MasuaraoMasuarao Posts: 51
    Plz Kabam, just played an arena, had lags and MODOK parried me when auto blocking. Please fix the game next patch.
  • Modok Miniboss in AW just parried me time after time on the second hit in a combo - just like people reported above his autoblock somehow isn't counting as an action so when he normal blocks the second hit it acts like a well timed block and you get parried. Please fix this as soon as possible.
  • The_OneThe_One Posts: 1,819
    I put my rank 4 5* MODOK on AW boss node today.
    He got 11 kills and still had 75% health.
    Great for us, it won us the war because they couldn't get him down but not really fair if it's a bug
  • linuxlinux Posts: 259
    edited January 16
    His auto-block doesn't trigger parry. He only auto-blocks 2x hits from your combo.
    What is happening, is that he is removing his own auto-block and triggering his normal block in the middle of your combo. Since it is a well-timed block, it causes parry

    Watching the video @arni2 posted, it does support this interpretation -- the hit at 9:39 removed the autoblock buff (and triggered "SIMPLETON !"); the second hit at 9:40 triggers parry.

    I just don't think that's much consolation -- I guess you can only do the first hit in your combo any time he has the autoblock buff up, but I don't see another approach that'd work for me -- I don't think I can reliably respond mid-combo (the tell for his autoblock isn't clear enough and there's very little time). I haven't faced him in AW yet, but I hear he's frustrating and effective.
  • Run477Run477 Posts: 1,150
    Any update on this? Status immune modok auto block/parry first hit is not fun and interactive
  • Speeds80Speeds80 Posts: 1,015
    Why can he evade while I’m comboing him and then hit me back? He’s not listed as an evade champ
  • AmonthirAmonthir Posts: 638
    He can evade via Dexterity as he auto blocks because it is not applying the proper delay to MODOK when he does so. As such, he can immediately dodge back and charge in for a combo. Similarly with parry, he has no ‘block stun’ and the AI can instantly Block next hit in such a way that triggers parry.
  • mfleurymfleury Posts: 71
    edited January 23
    I don't think people realized the whole bug. Modok isn't only doing a parry with auto block, he is doing parry even with block in the middle of a combo.

    This video that arni2 did you can see that happening at 8:40
  • RotmgmoddyRotmgmoddy Posts: 916
    MODOK's got quite an issue with a high chance of SOMEHOW parrying on the hit after the autoblock hit. It's like in between the first and second hit, he is able to unblock and block within that small time frame to parry. It's rubbish really, I just got killed by him because of that.
  • Hey @Rotmgmoddy. It's being worked on, and should be fixed soon. Thanks!
  • My_SuperiorMy_Superior Posts: 1,083
    I hope they remove the ability to parry from MODOK’s Forcefield however he should still be able to parry after the Forcefield if it is the first time MODOK has blocked an attack. I thought that was the whole point of the Forcefield being coloured red; a visual que to prevent people from being parried.
  • Speeds80Speeds80 Posts: 1,015
    we got a war with modok boss and 4 minibosses today, thanks kabam
  • Xthea9Xthea9 Posts: 829
    edited January 23
    Kabam Wolf wrote: »
    Hey @Run477. This currently looks like it will be fixed in 17.1, but I will of course update you all if anything changes with that. Thanks again for bearing with us.

    We are using currently 16.1.0 version, and this fix will be in 17.1 .... so is this means that 17.1 is the next version or is there any other versions also coming in between. When Hela has an bug which was causing a lot of damage to AI through synergies, to fix that issue or bug did we waited for a release? Or it got fixed over night , when we have identified that modok has a bug or issue which is causing damage to our champ , do we have to wait for the next upcoming release.

    What is the logic behind this ... I don’t mind fighting with a character which has bugs ... also I can revive, use potions just to beat this buggy character.... but is this the right approach that we all should follow.

    I am confused, or I just keep my eyes close and play and act like I didn’t even know what’s wrong with Modok”
  • GregorGregor Posts: 21
    Just happened to me. MODOK as AW Boss parried me to death.
    Also he's able to use specials while you hit him on the block!
    Please, fix this hero.
  • Run477Run477 Posts: 1,150
    @Xthea9 makes a great point with Hela. Kabam found out that hela synergy with Loki could wreck lol and it was immediately fixed. What irritates me is that it seems like you guys have a fix, but then you hold onto it until a “release” when you know everyone is frustrated. But if it’s a bug that makes the game less costly, it doesn’t need to wait for the next version.
  • ScarredPoolScarredPool Posts: 56
    edited February 3
    @Kabam Miike when can we expect a fix to this. Was kinda hoping that it would be included in today’s rollout. That parry on auto block is pretty nasty. Losing champs in a fight where the window of attack is basically negligible and loaded odds makes me not want to continue playing war.
  • @Kabam Wolf any further updates on this issue?
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