Either the game allows my alliance to sign up to compete for the biggest award with the strongest or it gives the same award in all categories.
It's like in the UFC or any other competition that there are different levels of competitors for various issues.
In this way the stronger will get stronger and stronger and who started recently will take much longer to stay strong.
Rewards should be equal in all categories, correct this fault as it is time before more people abandon the game because they understand that it will become increasingly difficult to compete for the top.
@Kabam Miike can you give some insight on how matchmaking will work? This is what will help alliances gradually move up the leaderboard and not get stuck because lower alliances are facing top level alliances.
My guess is this is how they fix war matchmaking to go back to just war rating and not factoring in prestige as well. This way shell alliances get penalized.
they already removed prestige from matchmaking last week ... matchmaking back to being nice and fast
Either the game allows my alliance to sign up to compete for the biggest award with the strongest or it gives the same award in all categories.
It's like in the UFC or any other competition that there are different levels of competitors for various issues.
In this way the stronger will get stronger and stronger and who started recently will take much longer to stay strong.
Rewards should be equal in all categories, correct this fault as it is time before more people abandon the game because they understand that it will become increasingly difficult to compete for the top.
rewards... should be equal... in all categories...? whats the point of competing then?!
To become eligible for the season rewards do you have to stay with an alliance from the very beginning of the season?
You must complete 5 Wars with that Alliance before the end of the Season. If you leave the Alliance after completing 5 Wars, and then come back, that does not count. The counter resets every time you leave an Alliance.
So, what would prevent a top alliance hypothetically from going undefeated through let's say the first 7 weeks and then stopping and holding knowing that there would be a very small chance for other alliances to catch them?
Then they would stop getting points and other alliances who keep doing wars would pass them on the leaderboard.
Or after about 4 weeks of wars I am pretty sure my alliance will have the ins and outs of the points and know what we can and cannot do. Even if top 3 cannot be guaranteed we can plan for top 20.
You obviously haven't read the scoring system even losing wars gains you points so stopping wars has no benefit
First, in relation to the question by @TheOneAndOnly , my reading is that the rank is based on overall points. So if one alliance goes 7-0 in 7 wars and another ally in same tier goes 7-7 in same tier, the 7-7 ally should theoretically be ahead. That 7-7 ally would get points from those 7 losses that the other ally didn’t get. Am I missing something here?
Second, is my understanding of points correct? So in another hypothetical, an ally that goes 7-0 in all three bg wars will score more points than an ally that goes 7-0 in all two bg wars?
@Kabam Miike are u going to respond to any of the negative comments? Rich get richer, spending to win etc. I dont think this is fair at all. Brackets should be bigger!
Love the overall concept but I’m hugely disappointed that only the top 300 alliances will get the most valuable resources in game. We’re currently in tier 2 and only 850th in war rating. This is such a tiny minority of your player base with access to these rewards.
Kinda feels like you scored an own goal with this one Kabam.
So alliances will basically be required to do 3bg wars in order to have any chance at a decent rank. With the points being 50k + your alliance score, that extra bg is going to give around a 40% boost in points.
First, in relation to the question by @TheOneAndOnly , my reading is that the rank is based on overall points. So if one alliance goes 7-0 in 7 wars and another ally in same tier goes 7-7 in same tier, the 7-7 ally should theoretically be ahead. That 7-7 ally would get points from those 7 losses that the other ally didn’t get. Am I missing something here?
Second, is my understanding of points correct? So in another hypothetical, an ally that goes 7-0 in all three bg wars will score more points than an ally that goes 7-0 in all two bg wars?
Great addition to the game and adds the much needed competitiveness to alliance wars/CoC as a whole that was missing before. Question about the new tier 1-3, I know that it states .1% for tier one, .2 - .5% for tier two, .6-.1% for tier three but realistically what ranks are those right now in the leaderboard? Like is .1% of all alliances currently the top 25 or what not. Important to know this now before season kicks off.
First, in relation to the question by @TheOneAndOnly , my reading is that the rank is based on overall points. So if one alliance goes 7-0 in 7 wars and another ally in same tier goes 7-7 in same tier, the 7-7 ally should theoretically be ahead. That 7-7 ally would get points from those 7 losses that the other ally didn’t get. Am I missing something here?
Second, is my understanding of points correct? So in another hypothetical, an ally that goes 7-0 in all three bg wars will score more points than an ally that goes 7-0 in all two bg wars?
You're correct on both counts. In your first hypothetical, the Alliance that Goes 7-0 will get the points for the 7 wars, plus 50,000 points for each win, while the second Alliance will get the points for 14 wars, and their 7 wins.
Same with the second hypothetical. Your alliance will earn more points for running more Battlegroups, so you're more likely to get more points than an Alliance only running 1 or 2 Battlegroups.
Very excited for this! Players have been asking for increased AW rewards for some time and Kabam has clearly responded to that feedback. Will Kabam be monitoring which players are logging in to multiple accounts from the same location? The new AW rewards may cause some alliances to have their best players play multiple alliance members accounts. @Kabam Miike
Are you locked into the season bracket at the start of the season? e.g I'm in master bracket and loose all wars the worst case would be finishing 20th in master or is there promotion/relegation throughout season?
If so are you aware of your current standing in bracket?
To become eligible for the season rewards do you have to stay with an alliance from the very beginning of the season?
You must complete 5 Wars with that Alliance before the end of the Season. If you leave the Alliance after completing 5 Wars, and then come back, that does not count. The counter resets every time you leave an Alliance.
So, what would prevent a top alliance hypothetically from going undefeated through let's say the first 7 weeks and then stopping and holding knowing that there would be a very small chance for other alliances to catch them?
Then they would stop getting points and other alliances who keep doing wars would pass them on the leaderboard.
Or after about 4 weeks of wars I am pretty sure my alliance will have the ins and outs of the points and know what we can and cannot do. Even if top 3 cannot be guaranteed we can plan for top 20.
You obviously haven't read the scoring system even losing wars gains you points so stopping wars has no benefit
Oh, I have read it and realize there is an inherent risk. But hypothetically if I have a live leaderboard and 4 weeks of 100% cleared battlemaps then I will know going into week 6, week 7 and week 8 how good a shot we have at top 3, top 20 or top 300. You forget how we like crunching numbers in higher alliances. Data is extremely valuable.
Are you locked into the season bracket at the start of the season? e.g I'm in master bracket and loose all wars the worst case would be finishing 20th in master or is there promotion/relegation throughout season?
If so are you aware of your current standing in bracket?
Your Bracket is completely Fluid. You could be in Silver 1, then finish a War that propels you into Gold 3. Then your next war could push you further up, or drop you back down. The Leaderboard will help you determine where you are.
Are synergies in AW still going to be broken when this starts?
We're still currently investigating exactly what is happening with Synergies in Alliance Wars. We'll let you all know as soon as we have more information to share on that topic.
@Kabam Miike
All sounds good and fun.
But with this update does it also contain a fix for matchmaking? As last 10 wars we got 8 times 1.5+ million stronger opponents
My thread got closed down so here goes my main concern again. Piloting needs to be stopped.
The new seasons mode looks great, rewards are juiced up and Kabam are delivering the resources we’ve been asking for. That’s the good part. Now the bad...
Kabam need to ensure that this mode is fair. And they need to monitor it. Piloting in war is as common as ever. Matchmaking as rigged as ever with alliances purposefully avoiding each other. These problems mean that the distribution of the most prestigious rewards in game will not be fairly distributed. This is exploiting the game and should be punishable.
My thread got closed down so here goes my main concern again. Piloting needs to be stopped.
The new seasons mode looks great, rewards are juiced up and Kabam are delivering the resources we’ve been asking for. That’s the good part. Now the bad...
Kabam need to ensure that this mode is fair. And they need to monitor it. Piloting in war is as common as ever. Matchmaking as rigged as ever with alliances purposefully avoiding each other. These problems mean that the distribution of the most prestigious rewards in game will not be fairly distributed. This is exploiting the game and should be punishable.
My thread got closed down so here goes my main concern again. Piloting needs to be stopped.
The new seasons mode looks great, rewards are juiced up and Kabam are delivering the resources we’ve been asking for. That’s the good part. Now the bad...
Kabam need to ensure that this mode is fair. And they need to monitor it. Piloting in war is as common as ever. Matchmaking as rigged as ever with alliances purposefully avoiding each other. These problems mean that the distribution of the most prestigious rewards in game will not be fairly distributed. This is exploiting the game and should be punishable.
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Either the game allows my alliance to sign up to compete for the biggest award with the strongest or it gives the same award in all categories.
It's like in the UFC or any other competition that there are different levels of competitors for various issues.
In this way the stronger will get stronger and stronger and who started recently will take much longer to stay strong.
Rewards should be equal in all categories, correct this fault as it is time before more people abandon the game because they understand that it will become increasingly difficult to compete for the top.
they already removed prestige from matchmaking last week ... matchmaking back to being nice and fast
Is this graphic correct? On the rewards Image there was masters rank1-3 and another master level below that
rewards... should be equal... in all categories...? whats the point of competing then?!
You obviously haven't read the scoring system even losing wars gains you points so stopping wars has no benefit
First, in relation to the question by @TheOneAndOnly , my reading is that the rank is based on overall points. So if one alliance goes 7-0 in 7 wars and another ally in same tier goes 7-7 in same tier, the 7-7 ally should theoretically be ahead. That 7-7 ally would get points from those 7 losses that the other ally didn’t get. Am I missing something here?
Second, is my understanding of points correct? So in another hypothetical, an ally that goes 7-0 in all three bg wars will score more points than an ally that goes 7-0 in all two bg wars?
Kinda feels like you scored an own goal with this one Kabam.
I was sick
yes and yes
It says in the announcement feb 7 to April 4
You're correct on both counts. In your first hypothetical, the Alliance that Goes 7-0 will get the points for the 7 wars, plus 50,000 points for each win, while the second Alliance will get the points for 14 wars, and their 7 wins.
Same with the second hypothetical. Your alliance will earn more points for running more Battlegroups, so you're more likely to get more points than an Alliance only running 1 or 2 Battlegroups.
If so are you aware of your current standing in bracket?
Oh, I have read it and realize there is an inherent risk. But hypothetically if I have a live leaderboard and 4 weeks of 100% cleared battlemaps then I will know going into week 6, week 7 and week 8 how good a shot we have at top 3, top 20 or top 300. You forget how we like crunching numbers in higher alliances. Data is extremely valuable.
Your Bracket is completely Fluid. You could be in Silver 1, then finish a War that propels you into Gold 3. Then your next war could push you further up, or drop you back down. The Leaderboard will help you determine where you are.
Doesnt answer the question bout rewards
We're still currently investigating exactly what is happening with Synergies in Alliance Wars. We'll let you all know as soon as we have more information to share on that topic.
All sounds good and fun.
But with this update does it also contain a fix for matchmaking? As last 10 wars we got 8 times 1.5+ million stronger opponents
Yes, There are special Rewards for those Alliances that place in 1st, 2nd and 3rd overall in the Season.
The new seasons mode looks great, rewards are juiced up and Kabam are delivering the resources we’ve been asking for. That’s the good part. Now the bad...
Kabam need to ensure that this mode is fair. And they need to monitor it. Piloting in war is as common as ever. Matchmaking as rigged as ever with alliances purposefully avoiding each other. These problems mean that the distribution of the most prestigious rewards in game will not be fairly distributed. This is exploiting the game and should be punishable.
Piloting?
Account sharing