"Here son, it's 10 bucks for you. It's all you gonna get right now, so be smart about how you spend it. What you gonna do?"
"Im gonna spend it on that game I play!"
"Sounds like great idea! What exactly you gonna get? Something that is guaranted to benefit you? Perhaphs units for mastery cores, energy refills or potions in case you need them..."
"No, I'm gonna pick up that bundle with very low chance to get champion that is not yet even confirmed to be any good!"
"Well that sounds smart, way to go! Just make sure if you won't get that champion, which is most likely to be a case, to go to the forum and rant about it! Love ya boy"
"Love ya daddy"
"There forum is here for people to come vent"
- @Voodoo 2018
Truly a man of intelligence right here. This is why the forums are here. So I can annoy the **** out of people when I complain about my 5th star being a Groot. Genius.😂😂😂
That's what he says.. I just think that we should have better odds spending on them. I thought we were suppose to leave suggestions and stuff? That's my suggestion. Better drop rates if you buy crystals. And this is getting old anyway I'm tired of seeing people attacking eachother and not even staying on topic.
Hey DiaoblosUltimate what is a 12 year old suposse to spend his money on genius? The bills? He wants something I don't pay for... Unless he works for it. So I teach him the values of working for what you want. So since youre so great in the way of parenting would you have hin spend it on? If he comes here and vents, complain, suggest or whatever word game you want to play ,he has a right to say it. And if he believes in something that is wrong and he wants to seek a way to a solution he has that right too. So don't you or anybody else that's staff or otherwise have a right to insult him. Tough guys hiding behind a screen. And that's really sad if you are an adult on here insulting kids.
I don't think there will be a next time. I'm just a kid but my dad says that you have to win sometimes to get the fever. If you never win it's not gambling it's a ripoff...
Not to be math-y about it, but let's assume the drop rates for a 3* are 90% (which I don't think they are).
That means that for every 10 crystals, there is a 35% chance that you get only 2* champs. That's not much worse than a coin toss, and it's what you saw today.
Your logic is essentially like saying "I flipped two coins and got heads twice. There's no way the odds of tails are 50%."
If it makes you feel better, I spent $30 today and got all 3* trash. But such is life, and it's a (painful) reminder to not overspend on champions.
I don't think there will be a next time. I'm just a kid but my dad says that you have to win sometimes to get the fever. If you never win it's not gambling it's a ripoff...
No,it's still gambling.I don't think this is worth complaining about,your lack of knowledge/experience in MCOC.
Well the link to the drop rates thread has already been dropped in here for you to read, it’s worth reading if you don’t understand how drop rates work on crystals.
You are making my point... If I had the same chance to get that.. I have been playing this game for over a year and the only way I've gotten anything is I payed. Go look at rampug that's me... Anything special on there like you got I had to buy.
If u read it's a guaranteed 3* or 4* then u have the right to complain, it reads guaranteed 2* and a chance of 3 or 4* . U gambled and lost get over it now. And drop rate for 2* is 85% ,3* 13% and 4* 2%
You guys are missi g my point!!!! I know what they are saying as far as the drop rates!!! I'm saying they should be better if you are paying for it that's all. Why am I getting bashed and namecalled? I'm a kid in case nobody knows, so maybe I'm missing something, but nobody thinks that if you spend money you should have just a litter better of a chance?
You guys are missi g my point!!!! I know what they are saying as far as the drop rates!!! I'm saying they should be better if you are paying for it that's all. Why am I getting bashed and namecalled? I'm a kid in case nobody knows, so maybe I'm missing something, but nobody thinks that if you spend money you should have just a litter better of a chance?
Life isn't that fair now, is it? Well you probably doesn't know since you're still a kid but there, now you know.
Well, I know that a lot of people are taking unnecessary shots at you and I agree it's not a Casino. I'm sure most people wouldn't mind if it was a guarantee. It's just that the Crystals offer a chance. It's all up to the RNG and what you roll. You may get lucky, or you may get 2*s. It's just important to be aware of that before you decide to give it a try or not.
So nobody agrees? And this isn't a casino so I don't see your point sir.
It's not a casino, but crystals function under the same principles as a slot machine. You put your money in, pull the lever, hope you win something big, but probably won't.
You paid $10 for a few crystals. And you received a few crystals. No promises or guarantees on what those crystals would give you other than a 2* minimum and 4* maximum. You got all 2*. How did Kabam wrong you here?
To the OP...kabam just care if your foolish enough to spend!! They have no interest in retaining you as a customer because they have such a huge base of players and looks like majority of the fools in this world spend money on this game..which keeps the ball rolling for them.
Lets be honest...kabam isint fair..they charge ridiculous amount of petty things and expect you to blow loads of money...for example a t3 cc cache of 2 cc's costs 400 units??? Convert it into $$ and see how ridiculously it is priced!!! You need 3 t3cc to advance a 4* champ and how many champs do you need to advance?
This whole game is (edited by mod) and unplayable IMHO.
Fools are they who support kabam.
Never buy anything with those rare chances and already considered it money gone to the dogs..
Kabam thinks we are real fools who prolly never even went to elemantary school...
Can someone tell me how a 2% chance for 4* in PHC dosent mean 2 4* champs over 100 crystals???
% = 100
But kabam say its just a 2% chance and dosent depend on how many crystals you buy???
Can you believe the amount of stupidity that we have been associated with???
Seriously feel let down by playing such a game and associating with a company such as kabam...
If that's how you really feel, then why are you here? If no one supported the game or the team, you wouldn't have an App to hate on.
To be clear, 2% does not mean that every 100 Crystals will have 2 4*s. It means every Crystal you open has a 2% chance of generating a 4*. You mentioned school, so I will use that reference. Percentages can be deduced from using Division. 2/100=2%. That isn't representative of 2 out of 100. It is 2 divided by 100. You're calculating Probability. That Probability is based on the back-end programs that generate a pseudo-random outcome, and the 2% is representative of the potential outcomes generated by the computer. It's a pseudo-random because it has certain parameters and we call those drop rates. It's entirely possible to open 1000 and not have one 4* because each time you open one, there's a 98% chance not to roll one.
If that's how you really feel, then why are you here? If no one supported the game or the team, you wouldn't have an App to hate on.
Im here in the hope that eventually things will get fair and improve...i do like the gameplay but not kabams policies..
I Edited to try and explain the 2% question. Hope it didn't seem too heady. I wasn't being confrontational. I just personally don't participate when I feel that strongly about something is all. It can't be all that bad. We're here playing.
You guys are missi g my point!!!! I know what they are saying as far as the drop rates!!! I'm saying they should be better if you are paying for it that's all. Why am I getting bashed and namecalled? I'm a kid in case nobody knows, so maybe I'm missing something, but nobody thinks that if you spend money you should have just a litter better of a chance?
The thing is you are getting an increased chance, it's gone from 2% to pull a 4* to say 5%. So kabam didn't mislead or anything as you got excalty what was described.
Just because some guys pull 4*s outta PHC's more often than others, they dont complain..but dosent make the system fair!!!
It has to be the same for everyone
Now some dull guys will say.its the same for everyone
But its not...there's preferential treatment in PHC's too
There is no preferential treatment. There isn't a different algorithm for separate people. We're all drawing from the same pool. Some have better luck than others sometimes, but I'm sure they have their share of unfavourable pulls as well. There isn't a more fair system than a randomizer that is the same for everyone. We're all working with the same chances.
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"Im gonna spend it on that game I play!"
"Sounds like great idea! What exactly you gonna get? Something that is guaranted to benefit you? Perhaphs units for mastery cores, energy refills or potions in case you need them..."
"No, I'm gonna pick up that bundle with very low chance to get champion that is not yet even confirmed to be any good!"
"Well that sounds smart, way to go! Just make sure if you won't get that champion, which is most likely to be a case, to go to the forum and rant about it! Love ya boy"
"Love ya daddy"
- @Voodoo 2018
Truly a man of intelligence right here. This is why the forums are here. So I can annoy the **** out of people when I complain about my 5th star being a Groot. Genius.😂😂😂
Your math is incorrect to be mathy
Have they said what they think about him so far? I pulled him as a 4 star but I’m not sure if I should awaken him or not.
Exactly. Stop gambling your money and work hard.+
Life isn't that fair now, is it? Well you probably doesn't know since you're still a kid but there, now you know.
It's not a casino, but crystals function under the same principles as a slot machine. You put your money in, pull the lever, hope you win something big, but probably won't.
You paid $10 for a few crystals. And you received a few crystals. No promises or guarantees on what those crystals would give you other than a 2* minimum and 4* maximum. You got all 2*. How did Kabam wrong you here?
Lets be honest...kabam isint fair..they charge ridiculous amount of petty things and expect you to blow loads of money...for example a t3 cc cache of 2 cc's costs 400 units??? Convert it into $$ and see how ridiculously it is priced!!! You need 3 t3cc to advance a 4* champ and how many champs do you need to advance?
This whole game is (edited by mod) and unplayable IMHO.
Fools are they who support kabam.
Never buy anything with those rare chances and already considered it money gone to the dogs..
Kabam thinks we are real fools who prolly never even went to elemantary school...
Can someone tell me how a 2% chance for 4* in PHC dosent mean 2 4* champs over 100 crystals???
% = 100
But kabam say its just a 2% chance and dosent depend on how many crystals you buy???
Can you believe the amount of stupidity that we have been associated with???
Seriously feel let down by playing such a game and associating with a company such as kabam...
All those reviews on playstore are indeed true
To be clear, 2% does not mean that every 100 Crystals will have 2 4*s. It means every Crystal you open has a 2% chance of generating a 4*. You mentioned school, so I will use that reference. Percentages can be deduced from using Division. 2/100=2%. That isn't representative of 2 out of 100. It is 2 divided by 100. You're calculating Probability. That Probability is based on the back-end programs that generate a pseudo-random outcome, and the 2% is representative of the potential outcomes generated by the computer. It's a pseudo-random because it has certain parameters and we call those drop rates. It's entirely possible to open 1000 and not have one 4* because each time you open one, there's a 98% chance not to roll one.
Im here in the hope that eventually things will get fair and improve...i do like the gameplay but not kabams policies..
I Edited to try and explain the 2% question. Hope it didn't seem too heady. I wasn't being confrontational. I just personally don't participate when I feel that strongly about something is all. It can't be all that bad. We're here playing.
It has to be the same for everyone
Now some dull guys will say.its the same for everyone
But its not...there's preferential treatment in PHC's too
The thing is you are getting an increased chance, it's gone from 2% to pull a 4* to say 5%. So kabam didn't mislead or anything as you got excalty what was described.
There is no preferential treatment. There isn't a different algorithm for separate people. We're all drawing from the same pool. Some have better luck than others sometimes, but I'm sure they have their share of unfavourable pulls as well. There isn't a more fair system than a randomizer that is the same for everyone. We're all working with the same chances.