**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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This is the gap in thinking between the two groups, for the most part.
Higher (more competitive alliance) players competing to be the best see RDT as a chance for players to further manipulate prestige/fix mistakes holding back finishing content.
Lower players see RDT as a way to progress faster. To spend the same resources elsewhere to fix the current problem in front of them.
I don't want to see further manipulation of prestige and $$$ buying the newest, high prestige champ. I wouldn't mind seeing progression for lower players sped up a little (even though it has been drastically). Therefore I think it needs to be a push for more resources. Keep t5b/t2a scarce (and even then, at least t2a increased), but t4cc and t4b could be greatly increased. same with t1a depending who you talk to. I don't think there is a lack of gold in the game, but rather a lack of ways to get gold. There is 1. Arena. And god is it boring.
I moved this over to Suggestions and Requests. Thanks for taking the time to give us some feedback on all of this. At the moment we don't have plans for RDTs, but we appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts and reasons for wanting them again.
I think limiting RDTs to prevent prestige manipulation is unfairly punishing players for something that should be fixed through other means. The fact that the champs you have ranked up affects your standing makes no sense to me. They should change or remove that rather than keep players trapped with the rosters they have.
I agree that changing resource earnings would help. I don’t see that as being mutually exclusive with RDTs. Progression for new players has been sped up in some respects, but it is also harder to dupe champions, which many require to be useful. It’s a mixed bag as the game evolves.
Resource needs also change as you progress, but earning them doesn’t change along with the player. I used to have plenty of T4BC, and I used to sell my T1As constantly because they would expire. Now that I have a larger 5 star roster, I use them up very quickly. T4CC have always been very hard to come by. I used to struggle to get ISO. I have a larger roster, and I dupe more frequently. I have a lot of high level class ISO, so then I run out of gold. I grind in the arena a fair amount, but it is never enough. Earning resources needs an overhaul to keep up with the way the game changes and with the way players progress. It should not be too easy. The game would get too boring. But right now it is a never ending source of frustration and mind numbing grinding.
Saying that you have “not seen” people wanting rtds for prestige may just be bc they won’t come out and say that. People who have a 5* r4 ant man or iron man or winter soldier or whatever and then asking for rank down tickets to “fix” a bad rank up is essentially the equivalent of that. They ranked that champ up bc they thought it would benefit them at that time—or bc they were impatient, or whatever. The result is the same. They had a higher prestige bc of that rank up, got better rewards in aq with that prestige, likely won more wars bc of that stronger champs/better aq rewards, and now wants to rank them down to replace them. Whether u want to say that’s bc of “prestige” or “fixing a bad rank up” or whatever, the result is the same—they rank up a newer champ and it changes prestige calculations and strategies others may have employed.
If get it. In your view it doesn’t hurt others by giving out rdts. But it does. It hurts in aq rank. It also effectively punishes the people who were patient in ranking their champs.
And finally, as far as progression for lower players, it has been sped up dramatically. When I started playing, 5* shards were nearly impossible to find—now u can get tons from doing arena. Even 4* shards were really hard to come by. Now it takes very little arena to get a 4* champ a week.
I never said you. You took it that way. Reading through post after post after post about Gold and RDT's, you will see the points I made become more apparent. It may not be you, but a good majority of the posts are from people that DON"T want to put in the work.
They were created because of some major changes to how the Champs themselves function. We haven't had changes like that in a year. We had a Christmas Gift of them, but they're not meant to be handed out with every change that comes. Certainly not to allow us to swap Resources whenever something new comes along. There's no such thing as a perfect Roster we can retire on for the rest of the game. It will take time to earn Resources when things change, yes. That's how we grow.
thank you for not closing down atleast one RDT thread straightaway.
I strongly suggest to Kabam that you guys can consider giving one last round of RDTs and state firmly that this is the last time that RDTs would ever be given again and close this endless loops of request once and for all.
LOL. Trust me, it will.
Besides, what's the point of making a decision if you know you can reverse it once every quarter?
The very first approach should be rank them up & play around the difficult contents, where a r1 l1 champ won't help. You need to get that champion upto a certain level to test stuffs up. That is why content creators get a maxed out sig 99 4* version of the character, to showcase their full ability.
Now suppose u find a charcter pretty trash after testing but u can't get him down bcz there's no method of it.
Simply after every charcter u get, u have to search forums & utube videos to find those are good or not & then make decisions. Why should that be the case? The game is just not based on utube n forums, people might want to try a new champ on their own. This issue will be addressed by RDTs.
I support the content creator program, that atleast allows people to test brand new champs without spending resources on them. But what about older champs. If someone wants to compare damage of a similar ranker rocket & starky, how will he do that on his own wo investing resources? Then he finds rocket to be inferior how does he put him back down? (If u say watch a video first, then who'll be making it if no one can rank up n down on testing purpose?)
alternate to RDT would be more availability of resources, no one complains about a trash maxed out 3*. Bcz doing that is very easy. But from the point the difficult to obtain resources starts piling up, people just can't get those at will & take every char to that level, there he has to make a choice. But how to choose without testing?
I get the prestige exploit issue. But that is probably the only counter to RDT against numerous benefits. So better revise the prestige system.
How does anything I said constitute manipulating the system? I get it. You want a rank down ticket. But don’t use straw men arguments about something I didn’t say.
It is not an abuse to rank down a champ you no longer want ranked—whether it’s bc u made a “mistake” (and bear in mind, it’s only a “mistake” in hindsight—I doubt you mistakenly hit the rank up button) or bc you have a better prestige champ or better champ overall now. My point is, part of the strategy in the game is in rank ups. You are adding a new strategy to the game which is who to rank down—despite some people, myself included until I had t2as expiring, who were more patient on who they ranked up bc of the understanding it was a permanent choice. Its fine if kabam wants to do add that element, but they should be transparent about it bc it effects a lot of people’s decision making. My point repeatedly has been it punishes people who are selective and patient with who they rank up and rewards the people who were impatient and ranked up a winter soldier or iron man or ant man bc it was a 5* dupe.
Aren’t you supposed to tell us that rank down tickets are never going to be issues again bc kabam said they would only be champ specific? Oh wait...they sent another round of rdts that didn’t include nerfs and weren’t champ specific. Instead, they had an expiration date that really screwed me specifically based on champ options I had at that time—despite opening like 5 5* crystals in that time span.
Since then, they also commented that was a rare occurrence and they have no plans to make them readily available. They gave people a Christmas Gift. Now they want more. There's no end to it.
What I was reiterating is what they themselves have said.
My personal opinion is I wish they were never introduced. That's all we've heard about. There wasn't even a possibility before the nerfs. Now people are asking every other day, citing game balance and every other excuse. People need to live with their choices. That's how I feel. Make the best decisions they think and Rank more, instead of expecting the game to make sure they have the best Champs all the time in a game that's meant to change. Work for the Resources.
T2as are not really a resource you can work for.
Yes, they are.
I’m referring to people who have gotten th t2as from those sources. After that, they are totally stuck. You lose credibility to the extent you are implying that t2as (and t5bs) are not the rarest resources in the game.
I have a ranked 5* r4 champ bc I had t2as expiring bc I couldn’t pull a 5* champ worth r4. I ranked the best champ I had at the time. Explain to me exactly what forethought could have been employed to avoid that situation? Please. I would love to know.
And btw: I have always been against rdts. But I would like to now exactly what I could have done different in that scenario.
There's not much forethought involved. I would have done the same thing. That doesn't mean they owe you a redo when you roll a better Champ.
I’m not, nor have I ever said, they owe me a rank down ticket. Again, you use a straw man argument that has never been raised. My entire point was the 5* r4 champs and above are the ones where you are totally screwed if you rank up the wrong champs bc those are the most finite resources in the game. Once you get the ones from act 5 and lol, you’re essentially sol. You seem to believe there is this magical set of t2as out there that nobody has found. If you could identify them to us, I’m sure we would all appreciate it.
Also, are you uncollected yet?