Iceman coldsnap immune?
Jaycray81
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Why isn’t Iceman immune to coldsnap? Like wha? How does that make any sense?
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Nothing about Iceman's abilities makes sense in the comic books either. But if you need a reason, Iceman's powers are explained in the comics as his ability to reduce the energy of water molecules. Doing so freezes them. But because Iceman's powers are not simply that he makes things cold, there's no specific reason to believe that if Iceman tried to apply that power to another Iceman it wouldn't have some damaging effect. Coldsnap might hurt most things because they are vulnerable to the cold, but even an Iceman immune to cold wouldn't necessarily be immune to Bobby Drake sucking the molecular energy out of his body.
There's plenty enough ambiguity about how things work in the comic books to explain almost anything. There's no reason why the game should be held to a higher standard than that.
Ghost rider is on fire but you get the smarties who say yeah but it real fire it is mystical fire so basically what these people are saying is if ghost rider can get burnt by fire then if I put my hand on his flaming aura it should not burn me but do some mystical damage instead.
The people who try to put logic into it should just stop because there was a response for ghost riders casw where a mod replied saying they would but ghost rider is balanced enough already with his set of abilities.
So this is not about logic but it is about balance. I mean the hulk should one shot some of the champs like black widow yet they take so many hits from him.
Uh, Iron Man can bleed, yes. He’s a normal human being. If his suit of armor gets beat up enough or shredded, he will bleed.
Except that's not how Iceman's powers canonically work in the comic books. Canonically Iceman subtracts molecular energy from the water molecules in a substance. "Feeling cold" is actually a side effect of his powers, not the actual effect. Because the precise mechanism Iceman uses to subtract molecular energy is not well described, it is impossible to predict what would happen if Iceman tried to subtract all of the molecular energy out of another Iceman's body. It wouldn't obviously be harmless.
Except that's not how Ghost Rider canonically works in the comic books either. If you put your hand on his flaming aura in the comic books you don't get burned and you don't take mystical damage either. Nothing happens unless Ghost Rider explicitly wills it to happen.
It is not about using logic to prove Ghost Rider should work the way he does. Logic cannot do that. It is about using logic to prove that the way other people demand him to work has no actual basis in either the comic books environment they claim to support or in the way they think physics works but doesn't.
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There are about 3 times as many “Nerf Blade” threads.
Speaking of which, it’s been a while since we had one of those show up.
Really man, you've tried to find an explanation on why he isn't immune to his own coldsnap? Hope you work for kabam because it's really hard to find any sense at this ... LOL
So for you Sabertooth coldsnap immune has more sense than Iceman being immune to it? Damn that sounds dumb...
It is only hard if you either didn't read my post, or don't understand what it says.
Matter of fact...why would he have to do it at all? the molecular energy has already been stripped away from when the first Iceman did it before it reached the second one. Why can't he automatically manipulate it? But if you check out his wikipedia page, fire immunity is indeed listed as one of his powers. I realize wikipedia isn't always right but...
Not just that, his marvel wiki page says this:
So there is a canonical argument for it.
I don't know man, the wiki straight up says he's immune to Sub-Zero temperatures. I think you're overthinking this. It's most likely just a balancing thing they were going for.
Also the very article you quote makes the same argument I do: Iceman doesn't make things cold, he subtracts heat. So even though Iceman is immune to subzero temperatures, that's not the same thing as saying he is immune to someone subtracting his energy from his body. They might seem the same thing casually, but they aren't actually the same thing in actual fact.