The problem with de-ranking piloting alliances
Cryptic_Cobra
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I am in an alliance that was recently de-ranked by 400-500 aw points. (we aren't major offenders or anything, but one of our members must have been using a pilot (wish kabam would tell us who, but that not the point of this thread) The problem this has created is one in our favor, and I don't agree with it.
I accept that rule breaking is bad, and should be dealt with, so i have no problem being punished if we did indeed break the rules. But we are not the only people being punished. Now that we are so low ranked in wars we are being unfairly matched against much worse alliances, and are crushing them with no chance of retaliation. This is so unfair to the other players we watch against and is effecting more then just the offending party.
My suggestion would be to deduct seasonal points only, or something of the sort, because reducing our rank is far from a fair solution. Sure we are now unable to compete for a top aw spot, but we are also a massive roadblock to anyone we match against.
I accept that rule breaking is bad, and should be dealt with, so i have no problem being punished if we did indeed break the rules. But we are not the only people being punished. Now that we are so low ranked in wars we are being unfairly matched against much worse alliances, and are crushing them with no chance of retaliation. This is so unfair to the other players we watch against and is effecting more then just the offending party.
My suggestion would be to deduct seasonal points only, or something of the sort, because reducing our rank is far from a fair solution. Sure we are now unable to compete for a top aw spot, but we are also a massive roadblock to anyone we match against.
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Being able to say they don't discuss actions taken is a huge benefit for them as a company. Unfortunately, it's the game and the players that suffer.
You should definitely punish the alliance as they gain from it. It is unfortunate but it has to be done. However they should be a way to remove the cheater so the other members are not punished again.
disagree since we already lost the last 3 wars
I have done nothing wrong but I get punished, I didn't even know he was cheating or I would have reported him myself!!!!
You benefit from his cheating if you are aware of it or not. I agree that the whole alliance needs to be affected, but my problem is other alliances are also suffering from this.
Hey guys, this is not the place to discuss any actions which have been taken against individual Alliances in response to cheating. Also, we have stated many times previously that it has always been our policy to not disclose details of any players who we have found to be cheating in the Contest. This is a privacy policy that we have always adhered to, and regardless of whether or not you agree with this policy, it's not one that is up for debate on these Forums
thanks for quoting the recently closed thread I was referring to
Sure you get easy wars but you miss out on better seasonal rewards and your shards per win are lower. Nobody is out looking to get caught piloting, its definitely not a positive for your alliance. The problem i have is its a negative for not only the offending party, but the non offending ones as well.
At no point did i say i was mad to have been punished with my alliance (on the contrary I actually support it) My argument is that other alliances are being punished for my alliances dropped rating... NOT that i was punished for something I didn't do.
They say it’s against their privacy policy to flag cheaters when in reality it says the can to reasonably inforce their terms of service. 🤔
Then you'd have Alliances piloting to up their war rating to get higher multipliers, especially during the breaks between seasons.
That happend yesterday to my ally and imagine: no one was baned!!
And first they answer me was a bug. Hours latter already is a cheat player, but no one was baned!!
Lazzy support that kabam that we have!! That is very trasparency kabam, no doubt about that!!
Screwing with alliance rating has adverse effects on more then just the offending alliance, and this is why it is a flawed system. If they just reduced offending alliances total seasonal score to act "as if they lost" it would keep the matchmaking system balanced (at least more so) while also ruining the offending alliances shot at top rewards.
Explain how most alliances (implying >50%) win 60% of the time? Lawl
That's not in context. It refers to legal obligation, as in Law Enforecment. If they are required by law, they are obligated to offer information in certain circumstances. That's not the same as exposing violators for public scrutiny.
your alliance isn't going to fluctuate often in rating. If you lose 1 war, you will get paired with an easier alliance. If you lose another, it gets even easier. As I said a "progressing" alliance is one that is doing everything they can to get better, and in turn that pays off with a slow increase in rating on average (60%). A non progressing alliance is one that isn't changing much and in turn can expect to stay at a stagnant rank (aka 50%)
Yes, if what you say is true and its based off the wars you won while cheating, then we would have lost that many points. But the fact this is not a gradual loss in rating is what causes the problem. Top alliances are getting dropped hundreds of rating and getting matched against alliances they can role over without trying.
Think about it as a bell curve, with your alliances total skill as the center. The farther you deviate from your average, the lower, or higher the chance you have to return to it. What deranking does is it places you at at bottom of your bell curve, making your win chance far higher. You are so blinded with your hate for cheating that you don't even care to think how it effects the innocent players.