Bypassing auto block parry without TS or TA

ZzyzxGuyZzyzxGuy Member Posts: 1,292 ★★★
edited July 2018 in General Discussion
I haven't seen this posted, so I'm not sure how well known this is. There are 3 champs that can bypass the dreaded auto block parry in AW without the use of true strike or true accuracy.

Domino - start a combo with a medium attack.
https://youtu.be/UsT8uAY-Kfo

IMIW - start a combo with a light then medium
https://youtu.be/g5xg72A9idY

Yondu - plain old MLLLM
https://youtu.be/0q9mjtjXmXI

I found Yondu to be the easiest and most effective.

Comments

  • ZzyzxGuyZzyzxGuy Member Posts: 1,292 ★★★
    So, I guess this was common knowledge?
  • Icecold2099Icecold2099 Member Posts: 577 ★★★
    News to me, but makes sense now that you point it out, since Medusa can't parry projectile attacks.
  • LysiszeroLysiszero Member Posts: 296
    Only 1 champ has it in there description to bypass auto block and that is Karnak true strike. Yes other champs can but still can be auto blocked as its rng. Karnak can bypass it 100% as long as he has his true strike. I know everyone likes the easy way but it just leads to much crying when it doesn't work that 1 time. The game is about skill.
  • ZzyzxGuyZzyzxGuy Member Posts: 1,292 ★★★
    Lysiszero wrote: »
    Only 1 champ has it in there description to bypass auto block and that is Karnak true strike. Yes other champs can but still can be auto blocked as its rng. Karnak can bypass it 100% as long as he has his true strike. I know everyone likes the easy way but it just leads to much crying when it doesn't work that 1 time. The game is about skill.

    No, Proxima Midnight. True Accuracy.

    And, the aforementioned champs can bypass it 100% with regular attacks. Not only that, it causes an auto block activation; thus, causing Medusa to drop her fury charges and can even net hits on the 3rd+ attacks as seen in the clips.
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  • ZzyzxGuyZzyzxGuy Member Posts: 1,292 ★★★
    Lysiszero wrote: »
    Only 1 champ has it in there description to bypass auto block and that is Karnak true strike. Yes other champs can but still can be auto blocked as its rng. Karnak can bypass it 100% as long as he has his true strike. I know everyone likes the easy way but it just leads to much crying when it doesn't work that 1 time. The game is about skill.

    I don't understand why you say auto block is RNG.

    What do you mean?
  • LysiszeroLysiszero Member Posts: 296
    Auto block is a trigger, rng. Just like anything else in game. For medusa just because she has 3 fury stacks does not mean every hit against her has a 100% chance of being autoblock/parry. Proxima has a wicked true strike but it is not 100% going to ignore autoblock. I don't have domino or fairyman but I do remember a kabam mod pointing out that Karnak had a buff to include autoblock to his true strike which is 100% guaranteed to ignore autoblock. Since I do not have those few champs pls show proof in there description where it states they 100% bypass/ ignore auto block.
  • ZzyzxGuyZzyzxGuy Member Posts: 1,292 ★★★
    edited July 2018
    That's not RNG...

    Edit: I'm talking about the above champs.

    This is PM:

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  • ZzyzxGuyZzyzxGuy Member Posts: 1,292 ★★★
    Also, they 100% bypass auto block parry because they circumvent the actual mechanic of it.

    It is effective 100% of the time.
  • KaruseusKaruseus Member Posts: 528 ★★
    The point is not that you can ignore auto block, but rather you don’t get parry stunned, as you cannot parry projectile and stun an opponent unless you are proxima midnight.

    Yes champs like karnak, killmonger can ignore auto block thanks to true strike. But OP stated ‘without true strike or true accuracy’. So don’t bring them up here pls
  • KillerRino19KillerRino19 Member Posts: 370 ★★
    Lysiszero wrote: »
    Auto block is a trigger, rng. Just like anything else in game. For medusa just because she has 3 fury stacks does not mean every hit against her has a 100% chance of being autoblock/parry. Proxima has a wicked true strike but it is not 100% going to ignore autoblock. I don't have domino or fairyman but I do remember a kabam mod pointing out that Karnak had a buff to include autoblock to his true strike which is 100% guaranteed to ignore autoblock. Since I do not have those few champs pls show proof in there description where it states they 100% bypass/ ignore auto block.

    Killmonger has true strike too
  • ZzyzxGuyZzyzxGuy Member Posts: 1,292 ★★★
    KillerRino19 wrote: »
    Lysiszero wrote: »
    Auto block is a trigger, rng. Just like anything else in game. For medusa just because she has 3 fury stacks does not mean every hit against her has a 100% chance of being autoblock/parry. Proxima has a wicked true strike but it is not 100% going to ignore autoblock. I don't have domino or fairyman but I do remember a kabam mod pointing out that Karnak had a buff to include autoblock to his true strike which is 100% guaranteed to ignore autoblock. Since I do not have those few champs pls show proof in there description where it states they 100% bypass/ ignore auto block.

    Killmonger has true strike too

    His is a little more difficult to activate.
  • Ripper4566789Ripper4566789 Member Posts: 44 ★
    Crossbones stops autoblock and imiw armor up with at least 4 fury buffs active
  • LysiszeroLysiszero Member Posts: 296
    I also thought kabam has made a statement that auto block isn't supposed to trigger parry?
  • TacoScottyTacoScotty Member Posts: 407 ★★
    Lysiszero wrote: »
    I also thought kabam has made a statement that auto block isn't supposed to trigger parry?

    That’s only for modok which aligns to his ability description. Medusa and IMIW both can trigger parry which aligns to theirs
  • ShadPrinceShadPrince Member Posts: 842 ★★★
    Auto block triggers parry if it is stated in the abilities
    Also, IMIW is the other significant auto block champ and you'll have to change the champs around
    IMIW medium, Domino light and Yondu light attacks will work
  • ZzyzxGuyZzyzxGuy Member Posts: 1,292 ★★★
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Auto block triggers parry if it is stated in the abilities
    Also, IMIW is the other significant auto block champ and you'll have to change the champs around
    IMIW medium, Domino light and Yondu light attacks will work

    With Yondu, a ML will work.
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Auto block triggers parry if it is stated in the abilities
    Also, IMIW is the other significant auto block champ and you'll have to change the champs around
    IMIW medium, Domino light and Yondu light attacks will work

    Domino is medium.
  • KillerRino19KillerRino19 Member Posts: 370 ★★
    edited July 2018
    ZzyzxGuy wrote: »
    KillerRino19 wrote: »
    Lysiszero wrote: »
    Auto block is a trigger, rng. Just like anything else in game. For medusa just because she has 3 fury stacks does not mean every hit against her has a 100% chance of being autoblock/parry. Proxima has a wicked true strike but it is not 100% going to ignore autoblock. I don't have domino or fairyman but I do remember a kabam mod pointing out that Karnak had a buff to include autoblock to his true strike which is 100% guaranteed to ignore autoblock. Since I do not have those few champs pls show proof in there description where it states they 100% bypass/ ignore auto block.

    Killmonger has true strike too

    His is a little more difficult to activate.

    i think that depends on the champion you are fighting against, for example for me is almost impossibleto get his true strike from Og spidey's sp 1
  • ShadPrinceShadPrince Member Posts: 842 ★★★
    @ZzyzxGuy @V1PER1987 I'm talking about fighting against IMIW, where the first hit is autoblocked and parried, so those were the three champs I mentioned

    So you had to change it around so the first hit is a projectile, so like Yondu's ML would be first hit melee and parried, or Domino's medium is melee+projectile, so also parried

    Probably should've made it clearer
  • ZzyzxGuyZzyzxGuy Member Posts: 1,292 ★★★
    edited July 2018
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    @ZzyzxGuy @V1PER1987 I'm talking about fighting against IMIW, where the first hit is autoblocked and parried, so those were the three champs I mentioned

    So you had to change it around so the first hit is a projectile, so like Yondu's ML would be first hit melee and parried, or Domino's medium is melee+projectile, so also parried

    Probably should've made it clearer

    I see what you're saying.

    But, I thought auto block only activated on a consecutive hit?

    Edit: never mind. Just read. Medusa specifically says twice and IMIW doesn't.
  • New_Noob168New_Noob168 Member Posts: 1,586 ★★★★
    Icecold2099 wrote: »
    News to me, but makes sense now that you point it out, since Medusa can't parry projectile attacks.

    You sure? she parry the second part of Void's sp1
  • ZzyzxGuyZzyzxGuy Member Posts: 1,292 ★★★
    New_Noob168 wrote: »
    Icecold2099 wrote: »
    News to me, but makes sense now that you point it out, since Medusa can't parry projectile attacks.

    You sure? she parry the second part of Void's sp1

    He meant auto block parry. Any attack can be parried but only non-projectile basic attacks can result in a parry stun.
  • Ebbi23987Ebbi23987 Member Posts: 76
    Killmonger is also great for her
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