Unluckiest Player of All Time?

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  • Austin555555Austin555555 Member Posts: 3,048 ★★★★★
    edited August 2018
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    zeezee57 wrote: »
    Just popped that Vulture from a featured. Please go on and tell me how unlucky you feel again. I'm wasting way too much time running in place with these 5* pulls. If I don't hit by the end of this current featured I'm done.

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    Vulture is actually pretty gooood. Very underrated, same with venompool

    Vulture is good? Please explain because mine has been duped for a while now doing nothing except being arena fodder. If they made Vulture actually incinerate immune, then he would have some utility. But as it is now, he’s trash. And I like the underdogs and underrated champs.

    When duped, he become incinerate immune.
    SP1 causes the enemy too drain health as power is gained. The opponent has a chance too miss the hit and vulture can land some hits. SP3 has pretty good power control, if I remember correctly. He’s not god tier, but he is a good champ
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    zeezee57 wrote: »
    Just popped that Vulture from a featured. Please go on and tell me how unlucky you feel again. I'm wasting way too much time running in place with these 5* pulls. If I don't hit by the end of this current featured I'm done.

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    Vulture is actually pretty gooood. Very underrated, same with venompool

    Vulture is good? Please explain because mine has been duped for a while now doing nothing except being arena fodder. If they made Vulture actually incinerate immune, then he would have some utility. But as it is now, he’s trash. And I like the underdogs and underrated champs.

    When duped, he become incinerate immune.
    SP1 causes the enemy too drain health as power is gained. The opponent has a chance too miss the hit and vulture can land some hits. SP3 has pretty good power control, if I remember correctly. He’s not god tier, but he is a good champ

    He converts incineration debuffs, which isn’t the same as being incinerate immune. Aura of incineration will still melt him. He has gimmicky specials but not really useful in a real fight. Sure you can screw around with it in arena and lower EQ but you’re not going to bring him to AQ, AW, or uncollected EQ. It’s sad because him and Carnage got the shaft when SS and Doc Oc were getting all the good stuff.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,074 ★★★★★
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    True. Pulled PM with corvus so def worth it. I'm hoping early reports of Heimdall dont make me regret getting him.

    I want PM as my second R5 up there with Corvus. I’d rank 2 her 6* unduped as well, I think she’s mega underrated unduped.

    Heimdall will be a tricky one, I think with your PM and Corvus you don’t really have a hole in your roster for a true strike champ. And I think that’s all Heimdall is, @Viper1987 Just made a good post about him in the Heimdall spotlight. To paraphrase, he’s a great champ, but with all his utility he’s not going to have the damage as well.

    I dont disagree with that at all. Although I might use the HD, Angela and either LC or SL combo for AQ often. Extra 25% is nice.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,074 ★★★★★
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    True. Pulled PM with corvus so def worth it. I'm hoping early reports of Heimdall dont make me regret getting him.

    I want PM as my second R5 up there with Corvus. I’d rank 2 her 6* unduped as well, I think she’s mega underrated unduped.

    Heimdall will be a tricky one, I think with your PM and Corvus you don’t really have a hole in your roster for a true strike champ. And I think that’s all Heimdall is, @Viper1987 Just made a good post about him in the Heimdall spotlight. To paraphrase, he’s a great champ, but with all his utility he’s not going to have the damage as well.

    Yes, thank you for the shout out. I could make a post but figured the spotlight thread might be best. He’s well balanced and you can’t have everything with one champ. The name of the game is balance.

    I think a thread could well be useful to a lot of people in a few weeks, if you can be bothered that is ;) but I completely agree with you

    After a bit more testing with him you may have found perhaps the best rotation with him in regards to his fury/crit/aptitude perma buffs. Also, I’m seeing a lot of chatter about Heimdall being bad, just because he doesn’t hit as hard as Corvus. I’d love to see a post highlighting that low damage =/= bad. Heimdall has perhaps the best true strike utility in the game, rivalled only by Killmonger. Corvus and PM are good, but Corvus needs PM and PM has short burst of it, not the best.

    I would even argue that Heimdall’s true strike is even better than Killmonger’s but maybe that’s an argument to make for a Heimdall post. I’ll write something down later today and see where it takes me. Corvus’ true strike is not ideal because it requires you to finish his mission which means he needs to be evaded or auto blocked. In war this is incredibly hard to not only find a champ that evades or auto blocks, but doesn’t punish you for triggering it. Plus you need to add another champ (Proxima) limiting your options. But I’ll go ahead and start jotting down some thoughts and testing I’ve done. I can share my experience with him and hopefully make others feel better about their Heimdall pulls.

    I’d agree that Heimdall is better than Killmonger, but only for true strike. As a whole, I’d take Killmonger before Heimdall. Perhaps that would change if I got Heimdall and tested him, but I think Killmonger is a better option.

    However, I agree that True strike is better for Heimdall. 1 special, which can be gotten straight away with his sig, or power start boost. You don’t need to rely on the special being punishable (I.e. able to hit straight away) like with KM.

    Yeah, as someone who has run corvus in high tier war, I find Proxima using up a place is an issue. I only had her as a 4* so she wasn’t used much. Maybe a 5* or 6* would be better, but I don’t think she has her place in war that much. Saying that, the only champions who give issues with completing his mission is Medusa, Thor Rag, IMIW and Heimdall. Since they parry. Any Evade champ, if you’re careful enough, can be knocked down easily enough. Even Wasp, who’s shock does no damage to corvus at all. Add in Modok and there’s quite a few defence champs who corvus can easily finish his mission on.

    I also feel like Heimdall was made for a IMIW fight if Heimdall is duped like in AW.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    True. Pulled PM with corvus so def worth it. I'm hoping early reports of Heimdall dont make me regret getting him.

    I want PM as my second R5 up there with Corvus. I’d rank 2 her 6* unduped as well, I think she’s mega underrated unduped.

    Heimdall will be a tricky one, I think with your PM and Corvus you don’t really have a hole in your roster for a true strike champ. And I think that’s all Heimdall is, @Viper1987 Just made a good post about him in the Heimdall spotlight. To paraphrase, he’s a great champ, but with all his utility he’s not going to have the damage as well.

    Yes, thank you for the shout out. I could make a post but figured the spotlight thread might be best. He’s well balanced and you can’t have everything with one champ. The name of the game is balance.

    I think a thread could well be useful to a lot of people in a few weeks, if you can be bothered that is ;) but I completely agree with you

    After a bit more testing with him you may have found perhaps the best rotation with him in regards to his fury/crit/aptitude perma buffs. Also, I’m seeing a lot of chatter about Heimdall being bad, just because he doesn’t hit as hard as Corvus. I’d love to see a post highlighting that low damage =/= bad. Heimdall has perhaps the best true strike utility in the game, rivalled only by Killmonger. Corvus and PM are good, but Corvus needs PM and PM has short burst of it, not the best.

    I would even argue that Heimdall’s true strike is even better than Killmonger’s but maybe that’s an argument to make for a Heimdall post. I’ll write something down later today and see where it takes me. Corvus’ true strike is not ideal because it requires you to finish his mission which means he needs to be evaded or auto blocked. In war this is incredibly hard to not only find a champ that evades or auto blocks, but doesn’t punish you for triggering it. Plus you need to add another champ (Proxima) limiting your options. But I’ll go ahead and start jotting down some thoughts and testing I’ve done. I can share my experience with him and hopefully make others feel better about their Heimdall pulls.

    I’d agree that Heimdall is better than Killmonger, but only for true strike. As a whole, I’d take Killmonger before Heimdall. Perhaps that would change if I got Heimdall and tested him, but I think Killmonger is a better option.

    However, I agree that True strike is better for Heimdall. 1 special, which can be gotten straight away with his sig, or power start boost. You don’t need to rely on the special being punishable (I.e. able to hit straight away) like with KM.

    Yeah, as someone who has run corvus in high tier war, I find Proxima using up a place is an issue. I only had her as a 4* so she wasn’t used much. Maybe a 5* or 6* would be better, but I don’t think she has her place in war that much. Saying that, the only champions who give issues with completing his mission is Medusa, Thor Rag, IMIW and Heimdall. Since they parry. Any Evade champ, if you’re careful enough, can be knocked down easily enough. Even Wasp, who’s shock does no damage to corvus at all. Add in Modok and there’s quite a few defence champs who corvus can easily finish his mission on.

    I also feel like Heimdall was made for a IMIW fight if Heimdall is duped like in AW.

    Yes 100%. True strike, Armour break. Instant IMIW counter. I can’t see him being better than Corvus, but that’s not to say he won’t be good.

    To me, Heimdall seems like he is to Corvus, what Gladiator Hulk is to Blade in regards to a magik counter.

    Corvus/Blade is the top option to counter IMIW/Magik, but Heimdall/ Glad Hulk is still a great option.
  • Atticus9090Atticus9090 Member Posts: 521 ★★
    I feel like the unluckiest player of all time wouldn’t get a 5* medusa...

    Call me the "Unluckiest Catalyst Fragment Player of All Time" then :wink:

    Only recently has my luck with pulling 5* Basics really been coming back. Got a 5* Hyperion just a couple weeks ago as well. For months I kept pulling champs like IP, or Collosus....

    Catalyst fragments always seem to not go my way though, especially this year.

  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,074 ★★★★★
    edited August 2018
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    True. Pulled PM with corvus so def worth it. I'm hoping early reports of Heimdall dont make me regret getting him.

    I want PM as my second R5 up there with Corvus. I’d rank 2 her 6* unduped as well, I think she’s mega underrated unduped.

    Heimdall will be a tricky one, I think with your PM and Corvus you don’t really have a hole in your roster for a true strike champ. And I think that’s all Heimdall is, @Viper1987 Just made a good post about him in the Heimdall spotlight. To paraphrase, he’s a great champ, but with all his utility he’s not going to have the damage as well.

    Yes, thank you for the shout out. I could make a post but figured the spotlight thread might be best. He’s well balanced and you can’t have everything with one champ. The name of the game is balance.

    I think a thread could well be useful to a lot of people in a few weeks, if you can be bothered that is ;) but I completely agree with you

    After a bit more testing with him you may have found perhaps the best rotation with him in regards to his fury/crit/aptitude perma buffs. Also, I’m seeing a lot of chatter about Heimdall being bad, just because he doesn’t hit as hard as Corvus. I’d love to see a post highlighting that low damage =/= bad. Heimdall has perhaps the best true strike utility in the game, rivalled only by Killmonger. Corvus and PM are good, but Corvus needs PM and PM has short burst of it, not the best.

    I would even argue that Heimdall’s true strike is even better than Killmonger’s but maybe that’s an argument to make for a Heimdall post. I’ll write something down later today and see where it takes me. Corvus’ true strike is not ideal because it requires you to finish his mission which means he needs to be evaded or auto blocked. In war this is incredibly hard to not only find a champ that evades or auto blocks, but doesn’t punish you for triggering it. Plus you need to add another champ (Proxima) limiting your options. But I’ll go ahead and start jotting down some thoughts and testing I’ve done. I can share my experience with him and hopefully make others feel better about their Heimdall pulls.

    I’d agree that Heimdall is better than Killmonger, but only for true strike. As a whole, I’d take Killmonger before Heimdall. Perhaps that would change if I got Heimdall and tested him, but I think Killmonger is a better option.

    However, I agree that True strike is better for Heimdall. 1 special, which can be gotten straight away with his sig, or power start boost. You don’t need to rely on the special being punishable (I.e. able to hit straight away) like with KM.

    Yeah, as someone who has run corvus in high tier war, I find Proxima using up a place is an issue. I only had her as a 4* so she wasn’t used much. Maybe a 5* or 6* would be better, but I don’t think she has her place in war that much. Saying that, the only champions who give issues with completing his mission is Medusa, Thor Rag, IMIW and Heimdall. Since they parry. Any Evade champ, if you’re careful enough, can be knocked down easily enough. Even Wasp, who’s shock does no damage to corvus at all. Add in Modok and there’s quite a few defence champs who corvus can easily finish his mission on.

    I also feel like Heimdall was made for a IMIW fight if Heimdall is duped like in AW.

    Yes 100%. True strike, Armour break. Instant IMIW counter. I can’t see him being better than Corvus, but that’s not to say he won’t be good.

    To me, Heimdall seems like he is to Corvus, what Gladiator Hulk is to Blade in regards to a magik counter.

    Corvus/Blade is the top option to counter IMIW/Magik, but Heimdall/ Glad Hulk is still a great option.

    100% true. I can see AW backups with Heimdall waiting for a 2 fight battle. 1st to get the buffs and 2nd being IMIW and using that stored power to launch 1 right off the bat. I have a generic 5* awakening gem still too.

    This feels weird, we haven't agreed like this since arguing against RDT's lol
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    True. Pulled PM with corvus so def worth it. I'm hoping early reports of Heimdall dont make me regret getting him.

    I want PM as my second R5 up there with Corvus. I’d rank 2 her 6* unduped as well, I think she’s mega underrated unduped.

    Heimdall will be a tricky one, I think with your PM and Corvus you don’t really have a hole in your roster for a true strike champ. And I think that’s all Heimdall is, @Viper1987 Just made a good post about him in the Heimdall spotlight. To paraphrase, he’s a great champ, but with all his utility he’s not going to have the damage as well.

    Yes, thank you for the shout out. I could make a post but figured the spotlight thread might be best. He’s well balanced and you can’t have everything with one champ. The name of the game is balance.

    I think a thread could well be useful to a lot of people in a few weeks, if you can be bothered that is ;) but I completely agree with you

    After a bit more testing with him you may have found perhaps the best rotation with him in regards to his fury/crit/aptitude perma buffs. Also, I’m seeing a lot of chatter about Heimdall being bad, just because he doesn’t hit as hard as Corvus. I’d love to see a post highlighting that low damage =/= bad. Heimdall has perhaps the best true strike utility in the game, rivalled only by Killmonger. Corvus and PM are good, but Corvus needs PM and PM has short burst of it, not the best.

    I would even argue that Heimdall’s true strike is even better than Killmonger’s but maybe that’s an argument to make for a Heimdall post. I’ll write something down later today and see where it takes me. Corvus’ true strike is not ideal because it requires you to finish his mission which means he needs to be evaded or auto blocked. In war this is incredibly hard to not only find a champ that evades or auto blocks, but doesn’t punish you for triggering it. Plus you need to add another champ (Proxima) limiting your options. But I’ll go ahead and start jotting down some thoughts and testing I’ve done. I can share my experience with him and hopefully make others feel better about their Heimdall pulls.

    I’d agree that Heimdall is better than Killmonger, but only for true strike. As a whole, I’d take Killmonger before Heimdall. Perhaps that would change if I got Heimdall and tested him, but I think Killmonger is a better option.

    However, I agree that True strike is better for Heimdall. 1 special, which can be gotten straight away with his sig, or power start boost. You don’t need to rely on the special being punishable (I.e. able to hit straight away) like with KM.

    Yeah, as someone who has run corvus in high tier war, I find Proxima using up a place is an issue. I only had her as a 4* so she wasn’t used much. Maybe a 5* or 6* would be better, but I don’t think she has her place in war that much. Saying that, the only champions who give issues with completing his mission is Medusa, Thor Rag, IMIW and Heimdall. Since they parry. Any Evade champ, if you’re careful enough, can be knocked down easily enough. Even Wasp, who’s shock does no damage to corvus at all. Add in Modok and there’s quite a few defence champs who corvus can easily finish his mission on.

    I also feel like Heimdall was made for a IMIW fight if Heimdall is duped like in AW.

    Yes 100%. True strike, Armour break. Instant IMIW counter. I can’t see him being better than Corvus, but that’s not to say he won’t be good.

    To me, Heimdall seems like he is to Corvus, what Gladiator Hulk is to Blade in regards to a magik counter.

    Corvus/Blade is the top option to counter IMIW/Magik, but Heimdall/ Glad Hulk is still a great option.

    100% true. I can see AW backups with Heimdall waiting for a 2 fight battle. 1st to get the buffs and 2nd being IMIW and using that stored power to launch 1 right off the bat. I have a generic 5* awakening gem still too.

    Stay tuned. I’ll post my findings. I used my generic too.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    True. Pulled PM with corvus so def worth it. I'm hoping early reports of Heimdall dont make me regret getting him.

    I want PM as my second R5 up there with Corvus. I’d rank 2 her 6* unduped as well, I think she’s mega underrated unduped.

    Heimdall will be a tricky one, I think with your PM and Corvus you don’t really have a hole in your roster for a true strike champ. And I think that’s all Heimdall is, @Viper1987 Just made a good post about him in the Heimdall spotlight. To paraphrase, he’s a great champ, but with all his utility he’s not going to have the damage as well.

    Yes, thank you for the shout out. I could make a post but figured the spotlight thread might be best. He’s well balanced and you can’t have everything with one champ. The name of the game is balance.

    I think a thread could well be useful to a lot of people in a few weeks, if you can be bothered that is ;) but I completely agree with you

    After a bit more testing with him you may have found perhaps the best rotation with him in regards to his fury/crit/aptitude perma buffs. Also, I’m seeing a lot of chatter about Heimdall being bad, just because he doesn’t hit as hard as Corvus. I’d love to see a post highlighting that low damage =/= bad. Heimdall has perhaps the best true strike utility in the game, rivalled only by Killmonger. Corvus and PM are good, but Corvus needs PM and PM has short burst of it, not the best.

    I would even argue that Heimdall’s true strike is even better than Killmonger’s but maybe that’s an argument to make for a Heimdall post. I’ll write something down later today and see where it takes me. Corvus’ true strike is not ideal because it requires you to finish his mission which means he needs to be evaded or auto blocked. In war this is incredibly hard to not only find a champ that evades or auto blocks, but doesn’t punish you for triggering it. Plus you need to add another champ (Proxima) limiting your options. But I’ll go ahead and start jotting down some thoughts and testing I’ve done. I can share my experience with him and hopefully make others feel better about their Heimdall pulls.

    I’d agree that Heimdall is better than Killmonger, but only for true strike. As a whole, I’d take Killmonger before Heimdall. Perhaps that would change if I got Heimdall and tested him, but I think Killmonger is a better option.

    However, I agree that True strike is better for Heimdall. 1 special, which can be gotten straight away with his sig, or power start boost. You don’t need to rely on the special being punishable (I.e. able to hit straight away) like with KM.

    Yeah, as someone who has run corvus in high tier war, I find Proxima using up a place is an issue. I only had her as a 4* so she wasn’t used much. Maybe a 5* or 6* would be better, but I don’t think she has her place in war that much. Saying that, the only champions who give issues with completing his mission is Medusa, Thor Rag, IMIW and Heimdall. Since they parry. Any Evade champ, if you’re careful enough, can be knocked down easily enough. Even Wasp, who’s shock does no damage to corvus at all. Add in Modok and there’s quite a few defence champs who corvus can easily finish his mission on.

    I also feel like Heimdall was made for a IMIW fight if Heimdall is duped like in AW.

    Yes 100%. True strike, Armour break. Instant IMIW counter. I can’t see him being better than Corvus, but that’s not to say he won’t be good.

    To me, Heimdall seems like he is to Corvus, what Gladiator Hulk is to Blade in regards to a magik counter.

    Corvus/Blade is the top option to counter IMIW/Magik, but Heimdall/ Glad Hulk is still a great option.

    100% true. I can see AW backups with Heimdall waiting for a 2 fight battle. 1st to get the buffs and 2nd being IMIW and using that stored power to launch 1 right off the bat. I have a generic 5* awakening gem still too.

    This feels weird, we haven't agreed like this since arguing against RDT's lol

    Yeah that burst of power could be pretty needed to get your first true strike. Just from preliminary findings I don’t think Heimdall will be generic worthy, but I guess it’s a matter of who you have, what you need etc. I used a cosmic on corvus, against peoples advice, simply to have his immunity against DOT. haven’t regretted it yet, since he’s my 5/65 and it’s helped me a fair few times.

    Oh I’m sure we’ll be back to disagreeing soon enough, but it is refreshing to agree on something, I don’t just disagree with you for the sake of it! Besides, I guarantee there will be an RDT thread soon enough ;)
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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,074 ★★★★★
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    True. Pulled PM with corvus so def worth it. I'm hoping early reports of Heimdall dont make me regret getting him.

    I want PM as my second R5 up there with Corvus. I’d rank 2 her 6* unduped as well, I think she’s mega underrated unduped.

    Heimdall will be a tricky one, I think with your PM and Corvus you don’t really have a hole in your roster for a true strike champ. And I think that’s all Heimdall is, @Viper1987 Just made a good post about him in the Heimdall spotlight. To paraphrase, he’s a great champ, but with all his utility he’s not going to have the damage as well.

    Yes, thank you for the shout out. I could make a post but figured the spotlight thread might be best. He’s well balanced and you can’t have everything with one champ. The name of the game is balance.

    I think a thread could well be useful to a lot of people in a few weeks, if you can be bothered that is ;) but I completely agree with you

    After a bit more testing with him you may have found perhaps the best rotation with him in regards to his fury/crit/aptitude perma buffs. Also, I’m seeing a lot of chatter about Heimdall being bad, just because he doesn’t hit as hard as Corvus. I’d love to see a post highlighting that low damage =/= bad. Heimdall has perhaps the best true strike utility in the game, rivalled only by Killmonger. Corvus and PM are good, but Corvus needs PM and PM has short burst of it, not the best.

    I would even argue that Heimdall’s true strike is even better than Killmonger’s but maybe that’s an argument to make for a Heimdall post. I’ll write something down later today and see where it takes me. Corvus’ true strike is not ideal because it requires you to finish his mission which means he needs to be evaded or auto blocked. In war this is incredibly hard to not only find a champ that evades or auto blocks, but doesn’t punish you for triggering it. Plus you need to add another champ (Proxima) limiting your options. But I’ll go ahead and start jotting down some thoughts and testing I’ve done. I can share my experience with him and hopefully make others feel better about their Heimdall pulls.

    I’d agree that Heimdall is better than Killmonger, but only for true strike. As a whole, I’d take Killmonger before Heimdall. Perhaps that would change if I got Heimdall and tested him, but I think Killmonger is a better option.

    However, I agree that True strike is better for Heimdall. 1 special, which can be gotten straight away with his sig, or power start boost. You don’t need to rely on the special being punishable (I.e. able to hit straight away) like with KM.

    Yeah, as someone who has run corvus in high tier war, I find Proxima using up a place is an issue. I only had her as a 4* so she wasn’t used much. Maybe a 5* or 6* would be better, but I don’t think she has her place in war that much. Saying that, the only champions who give issues with completing his mission is Medusa, Thor Rag, IMIW and Heimdall. Since they parry. Any Evade champ, if you’re careful enough, can be knocked down easily enough. Even Wasp, who’s shock does no damage to corvus at all. Add in Modok and there’s quite a few defence champs who corvus can easily finish his mission on.

    I also feel like Heimdall was made for a IMIW fight if Heimdall is duped like in AW.

    Yes 100%. True strike, Armour break. Instant IMIW counter. I can’t see him being better than Corvus, but that’s not to say he won’t be good.

    To me, Heimdall seems like he is to Corvus, what Gladiator Hulk is to Blade in regards to a magik counter.

    Corvus/Blade is the top option to counter IMIW/Magik, but Heimdall/ Glad Hulk is still a great option.

    100% true. I can see AW backups with Heimdall waiting for a 2 fight battle. 1st to get the buffs and 2nd being IMIW and using that stored power to launch 1 right off the bat. I have a generic 5* awakening gem still too.

    Stay tuned. I’ll post my findings. I used my generic too.

    If you can remember, tag me please. I look forward to seeing. Mines R2 right now and waiting to see more data.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,074 ★★★★★
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    True. Pulled PM with corvus so def worth it. I'm hoping early reports of Heimdall dont make me regret getting him.

    I want PM as my second R5 up there with Corvus. I’d rank 2 her 6* unduped as well, I think she’s mega underrated unduped.

    Heimdall will be a tricky one, I think with your PM and Corvus you don’t really have a hole in your roster for a true strike champ. And I think that’s all Heimdall is, @Viper1987 Just made a good post about him in the Heimdall spotlight. To paraphrase, he’s a great champ, but with all his utility he’s not going to have the damage as well.

    Yes, thank you for the shout out. I could make a post but figured the spotlight thread might be best. He’s well balanced and you can’t have everything with one champ. The name of the game is balance.

    I think a thread could well be useful to a lot of people in a few weeks, if you can be bothered that is ;) but I completely agree with you

    After a bit more testing with him you may have found perhaps the best rotation with him in regards to his fury/crit/aptitude perma buffs. Also, I’m seeing a lot of chatter about Heimdall being bad, just because he doesn’t hit as hard as Corvus. I’d love to see a post highlighting that low damage =/= bad. Heimdall has perhaps the best true strike utility in the game, rivalled only by Killmonger. Corvus and PM are good, but Corvus needs PM and PM has short burst of it, not the best.

    I would even argue that Heimdall’s true strike is even better than Killmonger’s but maybe that’s an argument to make for a Heimdall post. I’ll write something down later today and see where it takes me. Corvus’ true strike is not ideal because it requires you to finish his mission which means he needs to be evaded or auto blocked. In war this is incredibly hard to not only find a champ that evades or auto blocks, but doesn’t punish you for triggering it. Plus you need to add another champ (Proxima) limiting your options. But I’ll go ahead and start jotting down some thoughts and testing I’ve done. I can share my experience with him and hopefully make others feel better about their Heimdall pulls.

    I’d agree that Heimdall is better than Killmonger, but only for true strike. As a whole, I’d take Killmonger before Heimdall. Perhaps that would change if I got Heimdall and tested him, but I think Killmonger is a better option.

    However, I agree that True strike is better for Heimdall. 1 special, which can be gotten straight away with his sig, or power start boost. You don’t need to rely on the special being punishable (I.e. able to hit straight away) like with KM.

    Yeah, as someone who has run corvus in high tier war, I find Proxima using up a place is an issue. I only had her as a 4* so she wasn’t used much. Maybe a 5* or 6* would be better, but I don’t think she has her place in war that much. Saying that, the only champions who give issues with completing his mission is Medusa, Thor Rag, IMIW and Heimdall. Since they parry. Any Evade champ, if you’re careful enough, can be knocked down easily enough. Even Wasp, who’s shock does no damage to corvus at all. Add in Modok and there’s quite a few defence champs who corvus can easily finish his mission on.

    I also feel like Heimdall was made for a IMIW fight if Heimdall is duped like in AW.

    Yes 100%. True strike, Armour break. Instant IMIW counter. I can’t see him being better than Corvus, but that’s not to say he won’t be good.

    To me, Heimdall seems like he is to Corvus, what Gladiator Hulk is to Blade in regards to a magik counter.

    Corvus/Blade is the top option to counter IMIW/Magik, but Heimdall/ Glad Hulk is still a great option.

    100% true. I can see AW backups with Heimdall waiting for a 2 fight battle. 1st to get the buffs and 2nd being IMIW and using that stored power to launch 1 right off the bat. I have a generic 5* awakening gem still too.

    This feels weird, we haven't agreed like this since arguing against RDT's lol

    Yeah that burst of power could be pretty needed to get your first true strike. Just from predatary findings I don’t think Heimdall will be generic worthy, but I guess it’s a matter of who you have, what you need etc. I used a cosmic on corvus, against peoples advice, simply to have his immunity against DOT. haven’t regretted it yet, since he’s my 5/65 and it’s helped me a fair few times.

    Oh I’m sure we’ll be back to disagreeing soon enough, but it is refreshing to agree on something, I don’t just disagree with you for the sake of it! Besides, I guarantee there will be an RDT thread soon enough ;)

    ill have enough to R4 someone in the near future. Sooner if i could motivate myself to do easy path in LoL. I have options but really reserved in deciding what i need the most.

    I'm sure there will be, it's been a few days with no posts. I don't mind the disagreeing because if I'm truely wrong, I'll admit it lol.
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    I like the interest that is being generated by the Heimdall conversation. I will definitely post something today to get a conversation/debate rolling instead of hijacking this thread 😂
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Well you can’t go wrong with a corvus. I think he’s the best option for everything ingame except LoL at the moment. (Not every fight, I wouldn’t take him for most tricky mystics but he’d be on my team for anything). Even if I could make my own team of any champ, any rank. I’d always pick a corvus.

    Ahh easy path in LoL isn’t too bad. I just muscled through with star lord. Used maybe 1000 units. Although Now I’m kinda wishing I hadn’t because I ranked gwenpool to r4 and regret it. She’s great, but not on my teams. Plus, looking for my next r5, I’m on almost 3 t5 basic and only 1 t2 alpha. At this rate I’ll have to rank 5 one of my already r4 5* (which isn’t awful, but I’m waiting on better options) or I’ll have t5 basic in overflow.

    Disagreeing is how anything happens on the forum. Disagreeing leads to debate. Kabam reads the debate and has two viewpoints and they see the better one. That’s how I see it anyway. Nobody’s always right.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    I like the interest that is being generated by the Heimdall conversation. I will definitely post something today to get a conversation/debate rolling instead of hijacking this thread 😂

    Yeahhh I kinda got caught up in it too. Sorry OP, feel a bit sheepish now. Hope you get that Medusa R5 soon enough!

    Right, sleep for me.
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  • ezmoneyezmoney Member Posts: 208
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    unlucky.... didnt get the 3*
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,074 ★★★★★
    Well you can’t go wrong with a corvus. I think he’s the best option for everything ingame except LoL at the moment. (Not every fight, I wouldn’t take him for most tricky mystics but he’d be on my team for anything). Even if I could make my own team of any champ, any rank. I’d always pick a corvus.

    Ahh easy path in LoL isn’t too bad. I just muscled through with star lord. Used maybe 1000 units. Although Now I’m kinda wishing I hadn’t because I ranked gwenpool to r4 and regret it. She’s great, but not on my teams. Plus, looking for my next r5, I’m on almost 3 t5 basic and only 1 t2 alpha. At this rate I’ll have to rank 5 one of my already r4 5* (which isn’t awful, but I’m waiting on better options) or I’ll have t5 basic in overflow.

    Disagreeing is how anything happens on the forum. Disagreeing leads to debate. Kabam reads the debate and has two viewpoints and they see the better one. That’s how I see it anyway. Nobody’s always right.

    True. I am partial to Corvus but having both Hulk Rags and Heimdall as well as others like PM and Wasp. I'm torn. Oh well, cant actually complain about that.
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    zeezee57 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    I like the interest that is being generated by the Heimdall conversation. I will definitely post something today to get a conversation/debate rolling instead of hijacking this thread 😂

    Drop a tag my way too if you don't mind. I should have mine to R5 by then to better compare with my main roster. On a more positive note I do love the character design and animations, I really want to like him more as I've been looking forward to Heimdall for a while now. Convince me I'm wrong about him please.
    zeezee57 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    I like the interest that is being generated by the Heimdall conversation. I will definitely post something today to get a conversation/debate rolling instead of hijacking this thread 😂

    Drop a tag my way too if you don't mind. I should have mine to R5 by then to better compare with my main roster. On a more positive note I do love the character design and animations, I really want to like him more as I've been looking forward to Heimdall for a while now. Convince me I'm wrong about him please.

    You got it. And it might make you feel better to know the first day I got him and ranked him I was a bit disappointed. But after some time and getting to know him I’ve changed my mind. Hopefully I can change yours too.
  • Atticus9090Atticus9090 Member Posts: 521 ★★
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    I like the interest that is being generated by the Heimdall conversation. I will definitely post something today to get a conversation/debate rolling instead of hijacking this thread 😂

    Lol. I heard Heimdall was a great new champion, although I wouldn't know much because I do not even have him.

    From what I've seen on Korg, his awakened ability, and his specials, he's looking pretty good though.
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