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Finally i am asking this question about RNG

007md92007md92 Posts: 1,381 ★★★★
edited October 2019 in General Discussion
After started playing this game i heard this term soo many times. Then i knew about the random number generator.
For many factors. So over the years i asked many alliance members i have played with. One question that came out over and over is that.
The gift and crystal drop rates are better if u r in US or Europe.
While asian countries doesn't have that.
Is it true?
Back in the day someone rolling with me at the same alliance actually gave a hypothesis. He had 9 5* crystal. He opened 4 in Mumbai. Then he moved to Canada for graduation. And he opened the other 5.
He got better champs on those later 5.
And i tried this theory sometimes.
Opening a crystal at 2 to 3 am. Indian clock. Coz that would be morning time for US and Europe.
Strangely the drop rates are better.
Like opening an arena crystal and getting 275 units. And many more. U can understand for free to play player this feels like magic. Coz the game is way way tougher for us than the people using money to bypass every difficulties.
Accessing new fresh champs. While we have to do with whatever we got. Still we are sticking up with this game. And obviously the game is more exciting for paid players and easy too.

So about that drop rates and gifting stuff RNG is it true? It's a odd thing to accept i understand but may be i think it was really random. Well. If u are from asian time zone and u have noticed anything like this comment.
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    Madhav27Madhav27 Posts: 4
    I got 5* invisible woman
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    DęłtåDęłtå Posts: 295 ★
    Uk here the rng is really bad think uk is hated as we also have the worst connection issues on record to kabam
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    007md92007md92 Posts: 1,381 ★★★★
    I asked this just to prove a hypothesis.
    I am asking that is time zone really a factor.
    Or is the paid players percentage is clearly better in us and Europe rather than Asia.
    That's why. If u don't understand it then don't post comments that has nothing to do with it.
    This is about paid players vs free to play players.
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    ArylAryl Posts: 1,302 ★★★★
    007md92 said:

    I asked this just to prove a hypothesis.
    I am asking that is time zone really a factor.
    Or is the paid players percentage is clearly better in us and Europe rather than Asia.
    That's why. If u don't understand it then don't post comments that has nothing to do with it.
    This is about paid players vs free to play players.

    Judging from the responses to thread, you should be able to deduce that answer. Hopefully, anyway.
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    CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    007md92 said:

    I asked this just to prove a hypothesis.
    I am asking that is time zone really a factor.
    Or is the paid players percentage is clearly better in us and Europe rather than Asia.
    That's why. If u don't understand it then don't post comments that has nothing to do with it.
    This is about paid players vs free to play players.

    Well their support website specifically addresses the paid v free to play theory.

    “Misconceptions

    We strongly believe in keeping The Contest fair for all of our players and as such:

    There are no specific drop rates for individuals.

    Drop rates are not affected by how much money is spent on the game.

    Specific Champions do not have a higher drop rate than any other Champion unless otherwise noted in the drop rates on the crystal.”
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    Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Posts: 7,185 ★★★★★
    An alliance mate has his girlfriend open his crystals, and he has good luck. 6-star Nick Fury yesterday.
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    Captain_NietschCaptain_Nietsch Posts: 481 ★★
    Demonzfyre said:

    In other similar news, Bigfoot had lunch with Santa Claus and pulled a 6* domino twice from a 5* Crystal.

    Wow, I thought only the tooth fairy got that sort of luck!
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    DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 21,039 ★★★★★
    007md92 said:

    I asked this just to prove a hypothesis.
    I am asking that is time zone really a factor.
    Or is the paid players percentage is clearly better in us and Europe rather than Asia.
    That's why. If u don't understand it then don't post comments that has nothing to do with it.
    This is about paid players vs free to play players.

    There are no factors. There is a equal chance for all champs in the basic pool to be pulled. There is also a larger number of undesirable champs vs desirable so you have a much higher chance to be disaeading you to believe the system is somehow rigged and other tinfoil conspiracy theories.

    If what you are saying is true, then I personally would have every god tier champ only, but I don't. I spend a lot of money and my pulls are as bad as most. When you are only wanting a small percentage of available champs, you are likely to be disappointed more often.
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    MauledMauled Posts: 3,957 Guardian
    The definition of RNG should be enough really. If your sample had been 5000 crystals in Asia and you’d got straight memes while in the west you got 5000 bangers I’d lend this some credence.

    There are no cumulative odds - I.e. if you open 100 crystals and there are 100 champions you aren’t guaranteed to get your target champion just because you have identified it as a 1/100 drop rate.

    https://www.random.org/

    There’s a RNG for you, play to your heart’s content, it’s the same principle as crystal opening
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    KattohSKattohS Posts: 717 ★★
    Demonzfyre said:

    In other similar news, Bigfoot had lunch with Santa Claus and pulled a 6* domino twice from a 5* Crystal.

    Prove it.
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    DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 21,039 ★★★★★
    KattohS said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    In other similar news, Bigfoot had lunch with Santa Claus and pulled a 6* domino twice from a 5* Crystal.

    Prove it.
    I had the video but now its disappeared. Replaced by just a image of a "K" that looks like a 4.
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    KattohSKattohS Posts: 717 ★★
    Demonzfyre said:

    KattohS said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    In other similar news, Bigfoot had lunch with Santa Claus and pulled a 6* domino twice from a 5* Crystal.

    Prove it.
    I had the video but now its disappeared. Replaced by just a image of a "K" that looks like a 4.
    Yea that’s how it always ends up with those types of videos. How convenient for you.
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    DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 21,039 ★★★★★
    TheRager said:

    I am a f2p gamer. playing for 2yrs now. never bought anything. made use of time n patience only helped by luck sometimes , disappointed by bad luck most of the times.
    at very early stage of the game I understood that a f2p gamer must never look at others crystal opening or on the alliance tab to read what lovely luck ur alliance mates got. if u do u will either feel sick inside with pain, frustration, regret, longing, desires or feel tempted, allured to spend money like an addicted looser who thinks let me gamble one more time surely luck will not fail me this time,n in that one last time one last time chant u end up consuming self n then ur in so much deep investment that u simply can't return back to normal life just like criminals can't ever start afresh. not because they don't want to. but because they can't afford to.

    so TM, if ur a f2p gamer, n do not wish to loose this tag n happiness from life, then ignore what others got first to remain sane n rise above frustrations. as for ur specific question on rng theories ,no it doesn't really matter what time place day ur spinning it. this game is of probability of events. n according to the theory of probability the no. of turns u can play it out that is open a crystal, the probability of getting better champs increases simply because ur having a larger scope to access the pool. whales n their champions obtained are better than a f2p gamer as the no. of crystals they are opening is ridiculously higher than urs or mines. n theory of probability is simply playing itself out not Kabam's "let us punish u f2p gamer" type spl algorithm is responsible for our plight. just look at the insane gaming hrs the youtubers spend on this game as well.when most of their time n money is invested day n night in this game, the probability of them obtaining desirable champs certainly will increase as the no. of shard they are accumulating is way higher than f2p gamees. no spl ceo favour is working or region, time type spl algos, life is nothing but a probability of events n so is rng.

    I like how you snuck in calling spenders "losers". Super mature of you.
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    PachPach Posts: 131 ★
    TheRager said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    TheRager said:

    I am a f2p gamer. playing for 2yrs now. never bought anything. made use of time n patience only helped by luck sometimes , disappointed by bad luck most of the times.
    at very early stage of the game I understood that a f2p gamer must never look at others crystal opening or on the alliance tab to read what lovely luck ur alliance mates got. if u do u will either feel sick inside with pain, frustration, regret, longing, desires or feel tempted, allured to spend money like an addicted looser who thinks let me gamble one more time surely luck will not fail me this time,n in that one last time one last time chant u end up consuming self n then ur in so much deep investment that u simply can't return back to normal life just like criminals can't ever start afresh. not because they don't want to. but because they can't afford to.

    so TM, if ur a f2p gamer, n do not wish to loose this tag n happiness from life, then ignore what others got first to remain sane n rise above frustrations. as for ur specific question on rng theories ,no it doesn't really matter what time place day ur spinning it. this game is of probability of events. n according to the theory of probability the no. of turns u can play it out that is open a crystal, the probability of getting better champs increases simply because ur having a larger scope to access the pool. whales n their champions obtained are better than a f2p gamer as the no. of crystals they are opening is ridiculously higher than urs or mines. n theory of probability is simply playing itself out not Kabam's "let us punish u f2p gamer" type spl algorithm is responsible for our plight. just look at the insane gaming hrs the youtubers spend on this game as well.when most of their time n money is invested day n night in this game, the probability of them obtaining desirable champs certainly will increase as the no. of shard they are accumulating is way higher than f2p gamees. no spl ceo favour is working or region, time type spl algos, life is nothing but a probability of events n so is rng.

    I like how you snuck in calling spenders "losers". Super mature of you.
    yes am calling whales loosers. I don't regret it. kabam themselves said in their terms this game does not belong to any individual. right from champions to items everything is, n will remain theirs n they can take back all any time. this is their intellectual property. which winner will invest a dime in others property? not me.
    Awww losers are people who have the disposable income to willingly use on a game?
    Someone is thinking to paranoid about how they see themselves
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    XxLoganTDCxXXxLoganTDCxX Posts: 2,561 ★★★★
    A lot of people don't know what RNG stand for.
    Random Number Generator.
    RANDOM. Its not going to be good every time.
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    LormifLormif Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    TheRager said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    TheRager said:

    I am a f2p gamer. playing for 2yrs now. never bought anything. made use of time n patience only helped by luck sometimes , disappointed by bad luck most of the times.
    at very early stage of the game I understood that a f2p gamer must never look at others crystal opening or on the alliance tab to read what lovely luck ur alliance mates got. if u do u will either feel sick inside with pain, frustration, regret, longing, desires or feel tempted, allured to spend money like an addicted looser who thinks let me gamble one more time surely luck will not fail me this time,n in that one last time one last time chant u end up consuming self n then ur in so much deep investment that u simply can't return back to normal life just like criminals can't ever start afresh. not because they don't want to. but because they can't afford to.

    so TM, if ur a f2p gamer, n do not wish to loose this tag n happiness from life, then ignore what others got first to remain sane n rise above frustrations. as for ur specific question on rng theories ,no it doesn't really matter what time place day ur spinning it. this game is of probability of events. n according to the theory of probability the no. of turns u can play it out that is open a crystal, the probability of getting better champs increases simply because ur having a larger scope to access the pool. whales n their champions obtained are better than a f2p gamer as the no. of crystals they are opening is ridiculously higher than urs or mines. n theory of probability is simply playing itself out not Kabam's "let us punish u f2p gamer" type spl algorithm is responsible for our plight. just look at the insane gaming hrs the youtubers spend on this game as well.when most of their time n money is invested day n night in this game, the probability of them obtaining desirable champs certainly will increase as the no. of shard they are accumulating is way higher than f2p gamees. no spl ceo favour is working or region, time type spl algos, life is nothing but a probability of events n so is rng.

    I like how you snuck in calling spenders "losers". Super mature of you.
    yes am calling whales loosers. I don't regret it. kabam themselves said in their terms this game does not belong to any individual. right from champions to items everything is, n will remain theirs n they can take back all any time. this is their intellectual property. which winner will invest a dime in others property? not me.
    what belongs to you? nothing truly. You can own a house and if you dont pay taxes the government can, and will take it from you. Ownership of things is mostly an illusion. But even still who are you to determine in what way people should or should not spend their hard earned money, who made you the arbiter? You mentioned Bill Gates, who regularly gives away his money for nothing personally in return, that would seem to fit your definition of a looser.
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    LormifLormif Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    KoperBoy said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    007md92 said:

    I asked this just to prove a hypothesis.
    I am asking that is time zone really a factor.
    Or is the paid players percentage is clearly better in us and Europe rather than Asia.
    That's why. If u don't understand it then don't post comments that has nothing to do with it.
    This is about paid players vs free to play players.

    There are no factors. There is a equal chance for all champs in the basic pool to be pulled. There is also a larger number of undesirable champs vs desirable so you have a much higher chance to be disaeading you to believe the system is somehow rigged and other tinfoil conspiracy theories.

    If what you are saying is true, then I personally would have every god tier champ only, but I don't. I spend a lot of money and my pulls are as bad as most. When you are only wanting a small percentage of available champs, you are likely to be disappointed more often.
    And how are you so sure about this? Kabam can make automatic offers to individuals based on their inventory or crystal shard count. If casino machine slots are rigged, you bet crystals can be too. Else I don't know how to explain some pulls from awakening gem crystals and rank up gem crystals, not only mine, but others too.
    because they Kabam has stated so, which puts them in a legal risk if that is false, not to mention other risks. No one is saying they cannot be rigged, but the risk to do so is too great.

    the explanation for all pulls is statistics and standard distributtion. You cannot look at individual accounts and draw any sort of realistic conclusion because the sample size is too small. there is always a chance to get 2, 3, 10, 100 of the exact same item from consecutive pulls because the odds are the same. The chance of it happening is super small, but there are going to be people who have that issue because it is statistically possible.
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    KoperBoyKoperBoy Posts: 210 ★★
    edited October 2019
    Lormif said:

    KoperBoy said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    007md92 said:

    I asked this just to prove a hypothesis.
    I am asking that is time zone really a factor.
    Or is the paid players percentage is clearly better in us and Europe rather than Asia.
    That's why. If u don't understand it then don't post comments that has nothing to do with it.
    This is about paid players vs free to play players.

    There are no factors. There is a equal chance for all champs in the basic pool to be pulled. There is also a larger number of undesirable champs vs desirable so you have a much higher chance to be disaeading you to believe the system is somehow rigged and other tinfoil conspiracy theories.

    If what you are saying is true, then I personally would have every god tier champ only, but I don't. I spend a lot of money and my pulls are as bad as most. When you are only wanting a small percentage of available champs, you are likely to be disappointed more often.
    And how are you so sure about this? Kabam can make automatic offers to individuals based on their inventory or crystal shard count. If casino machine slots are rigged, you bet crystals can be too. Else I don't know how to explain some pulls from awakening gem crystals and rank up gem crystals, not only mine, but others too.
    because they Kabam has stated so, which puts them in a legal risk if that is false, not to mention other risks. No one is saying they cannot be rigged, but the risk to do so is too great.

    the explanation for all pulls is statistics and standard distributtion. You cannot look at individual accounts and draw any sort of realistic conclusion because the sample size is too small. there is always a chance to get 2, 3, 10, 100 of the exact same item from consecutive pulls because the odds are the same. The chance of it happening is super small, but there are going to be people who have that issue because it is statistically possible.
    Yes they said they don't do that. Do you believe them? When money comes into question, I'm very skeptic about such statements. Also, who can prove Kabam rigs the crystals if they would indeed do that? Nobody.

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    LormifLormif Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    KoperBoy said:

    Lormif said:

    KoperBoy said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    007md92 said:

    I asked this just to prove a hypothesis.
    I am asking that is time zone really a factor.
    Or is the paid players percentage is clearly better in us and Europe rather than Asia.
    That's why. If u don't understand it then don't post comments that has nothing to do with it.
    This is about paid players vs free to play players.

    There are no factors. There is a equal chance for all champs in the basic pool to be pulled. There is also a larger number of undesirable champs vs desirable so you have a much higher chance to be disaeading you to believe the system is somehow rigged and other tinfoil conspiracy theories.

    If what you are saying is true, then I personally would have every god tier champ only, but I don't. I spend a lot of money and my pulls are as bad as most. When you are only wanting a small percentage of available champs, you are likely to be disappointed more often.
    And how are you so sure about this? Kabam can make automatic offers to individuals based on their inventory or crystal shard count. If casino machine slots are rigged, you bet crystals can be too. Else I don't know how to explain some pulls from awakening gem crystals and rank up gem crystals, not only mine, but others too.
    because they Kabam has stated so, which puts them in a legal risk if that is false, not to mention other risks. No one is saying they cannot be rigged, but the risk to do so is too great.

    the explanation for all pulls is statistics and standard distributtion. You cannot look at individual accounts and draw any sort of realistic conclusion because the sample size is too small. there is always a chance to get 2, 3, 10, 100 of the exact same item from consecutive pulls because the odds are the same. The chance of it happening is super small, but there are going to be people who have that issue because it is statistically possible.
    Yes they said they don't do that. Do you believe them? When money comes into question, I'm very skeptic about such statements. Also, who can prove Kabam rigs the crystals if they would indeed do that? Nobody.

    yes, I believe them, because if they lie then they open them selves up to millions of dollars in lawsuits and being removed from the play store and the app store. Last I remember apple requires code review as part of their system. Also I dont buy into conspiracy theories.
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    LormifLormif Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Belfigor2 said:

    Lormif said:

    Belfigor2 said:

    Look at Seatin 20 last openings, he keep defying the odds.
    Last time he got one 5* at 17,5% chance and TWO 5* features with 0.5% chance...by open FIVE crystals
    normal guy would have to open 400 of those to get 1 elsa and 1 man thing 5* and it is not an isolated event.
    he keep getting features every time, 3* at 15% and 4* at 8%
    Im lucky if i get one 3* feature if i open 20, when you check seatin open 20 he gets six 3* and two 4* features lol..
    It is very clear if you watch his openings that kabam give him higher chances and i think it is because he have so many viewers that might go buy crystal and spend money on purchases after watching him open.

    ofc it is just a theory, kabam would never admit it even if it was true, im just talking statistical evidence by watching his last openings comparing them to my own

    And hispast opening he didnt get anything higher than a 4* elsa after about $700 worth of crystals.
    most likely because i have never heard of hispast :p
    how many subscribers does he have?
    what doses number of subscribers have to do with anything. In his elsa openings, he spent over $700 and didnt get a 5 or 6* elsa. The problem is you are trying to use a statistically irrelavant account to attribute something, and you cannot do that, besides the fact you dont know all the crystals he opened that he didnt post.
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    LormifLormif Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    TheRager said:

    since its not possible to quote n reply back to all of u individually, am writing it down in a general reply.
    I am no one to question how u spend ur money. but I have right to condemn any form of addiction I see around myself. a game which doesn't even allow u to keep the same specification of champs for which u had bought it is not worthy of investment in terms of money imho.
    to the one who feels he is rich in grammar, perhaps u need earliest admission to school coz Spenders n Whales are not same. if u still insist spenders=whales then let me inform u uncontrollable spending /spenders are termed as whales. anything which goes beyond control is not affordability but addiction. it is not that u have huge income so ur spending. but because u cannot stop urself from getting past this addiction.I called the inability to get over the addiction as that of a looser. if u believe addicted ones are winners then surely u need to go back to school. as long as game is entertainment that is fine. the sec it is an addiction, I believe u have started loosing. indulgence is good. overindulgence is not.
    to the one who said everything is illusion. I agree with u. yet a property has a value if u resale.God forbid if u die ur family will still enjoy it have right over it. what value does this game of probability return to u apart from temporary entertainment ?technically it won't even allow ur wife or children to play the game upon ur death (may God forbid death n u live long) so I feel its a waste n property n this game shouldn't be compared. if u justify that as u can afford it so u have right to gamble or waste away, I cannot stop u from gambling further as I do not preach those who do not desire to be taught.
    Lastly I commented not to hurt anyone but to talk senses n if possible let those who are so addicted that they feel frustrated or depressed by turn of events in this game, n if possible to make them realise how worthless this game is so that they can shrug of the disappointment n cheer up n say its a stupid game only let me rather smile n enjoy my life.
    I hate hijacking someone's thread n making it a personal thread of arguments n counter arguments via too many exchanges, so this is the last time am spoiling the thread here. Good day to all.

    Now you are assuming whales are addicted, can you go off the rails any more? Look I know you like to judge and condemn others for actions you dont like, but that is not your right. You have a right not to associate with those people if you chose, but no one has a rights to judge and condemn others as you are doing. I am sure there are tons of things you do which I would find idiotic, but that does not make it my right to call you out on it. Your post is not making sense.
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    DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 21,039 ★★★★★
    KoperBoy said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    007md92 said:

    I asked this just to prove a hypothesis.
    I am asking that is time zone really a factor.
    Or is the paid players percentage is clearly better in us and Europe rather than Asia.
    That's why. If u don't understand it then don't post comments that has nothing to do with it.
    This is about paid players vs free to play players.

    There are no factors. There is a equal chance for all champs in the basic pool to be pulled. There is also a larger number of undesirable champs vs desirable so you have a much higher chance to be disaeading you to believe the system is somehow rigged and other tinfoil conspiracy theories.

    If what you are saying is true, then I personally would have every god tier champ only, but I don't. I spend a lot of money and my pulls are as bad as most. When you are only wanting a small percentage of available champs, you are likely to be disappointed more often.
    And how are you so sure about this? Kabam can make automatic offers to individuals based on their inventory or crystal shard count. If casino machine slots are rigged, you bet crystals can be too. Else I don't know how to explain some pulls from awakening gem crystals and rank up gem crystals, not only mine, but others too.
    This forum and reddit represent less than probably 15% of the player base at at that. The people that post their pulls are the ones that don't get what they want which in turn creates confirmation bias. All you are subjected to is the bad pulls from your alliance and what here on the forums and reddit with a few good pull threads here and there.

    Everyone continues to think that RNG means you can't have the same result over several openings but that is the exact definition of RNG. It's a random result whether it's the same or different. There's nothing that examines your account or any algorithm that knows what you want. You just want to believe there is so you feel better about the bad pulls and somewhere to place blame.
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    LormifLormif Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Belfigor2 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Belfigor2 said:

    Look at Seatin 20 last openings, he keep defying the odds.
    Last time he got one 5* at 17,5% chance and TWO 5* features with 0.5% chance...by open FIVE crystals
    normal guy would have to open 400 of those to get 1 elsa and 1 man thing 5* and it is not an isolated event.
    he keep getting features every time, 3* at 15% and 4* at 8%
    Im lucky if i get one 3* feature if i open 20, when you check seatin open 20 he gets six 3* and two 4* features lol..
    It is very clear if you watch his openings that kabam give him higher chances and i think it is because he have so many viewers that might go buy crystal and spend money on purchases after watching him open.

    ofc it is just a theory, kabam would never admit it even if it was true, im just talking statistical evidence by watching his last openings comparing them to my own

    Seatin opens 80 featured GMC's when a new champ is released. If you open only 20, he has 60 more chances to get a featured. Plus there are many, many, many times he doesn't get the 5 or 6* featured. You need to go collect more facts first.
    i already have statistic, please tell me you are not one of those that say "I want the truth, not facts" lol
    i said i taken statistical evidence of his last 20.

    can i see your math thst counter whst i just sa
    Lormif said:

    Belfigor2 said:

    Lormif said:

    Belfigor2 said:

    Look at Seatin 20 last openings, he keep defying the odds.
    Last time he got one 5* at 17,5% chance and TWO 5* features with 0.5% chance...by open FIVE crystals
    normal guy would have to open 400 of those to get 1 elsa and 1 man thing 5* and it is not an isolated event.
    he keep getting features every time, 3* at 15% and 4* at 8%
    Im lucky if i get one 3* feature if i open 20, when you check seatin open 20 he gets six 3* and two 4* features lol..
    It is very clear if you watch his openings that kabam give him higher chances and i think it is because he have so many viewers that might go buy crystal and spend money on purchases after watching him open.

    ofc it is just a theory, kabam would never admit it even if it was true, im just talking statistical evidence by watching his last openings comparing them to my own

    And hispast opening he didnt get anything higher than a 4* elsa after about $700 worth of crystals.
    most likely because i have never heard of hispast :p
    how many subscribers does he have?
    what doses number of subscribers have to do with anything. In his elsa openings, he spent over $700 and didnt get a 5 or 6* elsa. The problem is you are trying to use a statistically irrelavant account to attribute something, and you cannot do that, besides the fact you dont know all the crystals he opened that he didnt post.
    because the more subs you have the more famous you are and the more viewers and potential costumers you can give kabam.
    why do you think pewdiepie charge a minimum of $450 000 dollar to promote something?he is the biggest youtuber and ppl who want to pay that amount know that millions are guaranteed to see it

    it is simple advertisement, boosting seatin rng make ppl think they might get goid things too and get ppl to spend money
    Demonzfyre said:

    Belfigor2 said:

    Look at Seatin 20 last openings, he keep defying the odds.
    Last time he got one 5* at 17,5% chance and TWO 5* features with 0.5% chance...by open FIVE crystals
    normal guy would have to open 400 of those to get 1 elsa and 1 man thing 5* and it is not an isolated event.
    he keep getting features every time, 3* at 15% and 4* at 8%
    Im lucky if i get one 3* feature if i open 20, when you check seatin open 20 he gets six 3* and two 4* features lol..
    It is very clear if you watch his openings that kabam give him higher chances and i think it is because he have so many viewers that might go buy crystal and spend money on purchases after watching him open.

    ofc it is just a theory, kabam would never admit it even if it was true, im just talking statistical evidence by watching his last openings comparing them to my own

    Seatin opens 80 featured GMC's when a new champ is released. If you open only 20, he has 60 more chances to get a featured. Plus there are many, many, many times he doesn't get the 5 or 6* featured. You need to go collect more facts first.
    i already have statistic, please tell me you are not one of those that say "I want the truth, not facts" lol
    i said i taken statistical evidence of his last 20.

    can i see your math that counter what i just said?
    Last 20 is not "statistical evidence" and if it was, his last 20 he did not get the featured. with a a sample size of 20 the confidence interval for a statistical comparison would be insanely vague.
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    Belfigor2 said:

    Lormif said:

    Belfigor2 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Belfigor2 said:

    Look at Seatin 20 last openings, he keep defying the odds.
    Last time he got one 5* at 17,5% chance and TWO 5* features with 0.5% chance...by open FIVE crystals
    normal guy would have to open 400 of those to get 1 elsa and 1 man thing 5* and it is not an isolated event.
    he keep getting features every time, 3* at 15% and 4* at 8%
    Im lucky if i get one 3* feature if i open 20, when you check seatin open 20 he gets six 3* and two 4* features lol..
    It is very clear if you watch his openings that kabam give him higher chances and i think it is because he have so many viewers that might go buy crystal and spend money on purchases after watching him open.

    ofc it is just a theory, kabam would never admit it even if it was true, im just talking statistical evidence by watching his last openings comparing them to my own

    Seatin opens 80 featured GMC's when a new champ is released. If you open only 20, he has 60 more chances to get a featured. Plus there are many, many, many times he doesn't get the 5 or 6* featured. You need to go collect more facts first.
    i already have statistic, please tell me you are not one of those that say "I want the truth, not facts" lol
    i said i taken statistical evidence of his last 20.

    can i see your math thst counter whst i just sa
    Lormif said:

    Belfigor2 said:

    Lormif said:

    Belfigor2 said:

    Look at Seatin 20 last openings, he keep defying the odds.
    Last time he got one 5* at 17,5% chance and TWO 5* features with 0.5% chance...by open FIVE crystals
    normal guy would have to open 400 of those to get 1 elsa and 1 man thing 5* and it is not an isolated event.
    he keep getting features every time, 3* at 15% and 4* at 8%
    Im lucky if i get one 3* feature if i open 20, when you check seatin open 20 he gets six 3* and two 4* features lol..
    It is very clear if you watch his openings that kabam give him higher chances and i think it is because he have so many viewers that might go buy crystal and spend money on purchases after watching him open.

    ofc it is just a theory, kabam would never admit it even if it was true, im just talking statistical evidence by watching his last openings comparing them to my own

    And hispast opening he didnt get anything higher than a 4* elsa after about $700 worth of crystals.
    most likely because i have never heard of hispast :p
    how many subscribers does he have?
    what doses number of subscribers have to do with anything. In his elsa openings, he spent over $700 and didnt get a 5 or 6* elsa. The problem is you are trying to use a statistically irrelavant account to attribute something, and you cannot do that, besides the fact you dont know all the crystals he opened that he didnt post.
    because the more subs you have the more famous you are and the more viewers and potential costumers you can give kabam.
    why do you think pewdiepie charge a minimum of $450 000 dollar to promote something?he is the biggest youtuber and ppl who want to pay that amount know that millions are guaranteed to see it

    it is simple advertisement, boosting seatin rng make ppl think they might get goid things too and get ppl to spend money
    Demonzfyre said:

    Belfigor2 said:

    Look at Seatin 20 last openings, he keep defying the odds.
    Last time he got one 5* at 17,5% chance and TWO 5* features with 0.5% chance...by open FIVE crystals
    normal guy would have to open 400 of those to get 1 elsa and 1 man thing 5* and it is not an isolated event.
    he keep getting features every time, 3* at 15% and 4* at 8%
    Im lucky if i get one 3* feature if i open 20, when you check seatin open 20 he gets six 3* and two 4* features lol..
    It is very clear if you watch his openings that kabam give him higher chances and i think it is because he have so many viewers that might go buy crystal and spend money on purchases after watching him open.

    ofc it is just a theory, kabam would never admit it even if it was true, im just talking statistical evidence by watching his last openings comparing them to my own

    Seatin opens 80 featured GMC's when a new champ is released. If you open only 20, he has 60 more chances to get a featured. Plus there are many, many, many times he doesn't get the 5 or 6* featured. You need to go collect more facts first.
    i already have statistic, please tell me you are not one of those that say "I want the truth, not facts" lol
    i said i taken statistical evidence of his last 20.

    can i see your math that counter what i just said?
    Last 20 is not "statistical evidence" and if it was, his last 20 he did not get the featured. with a a sample size of 20 the confidence interval for a statistical comparison would be insanely vague.
    lol, his last 20 openings containing feature champs is what i took statistic from, you just gonna continue to be a fanboi instead if looking at in statistical facts?
    You can redo it and post here and tell me where i got it wrong.
    but i guess you are just gonna continue with random comments instead
    what "statistical facts" are you talking about? you have described none. What is the mean value, what is the sample size, what is the confidence interval, do you even know what those things are? Do you even know what the minumum required sample size is? 1000 RANDOM items.

    Here is his last featured crystal opening:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txa2hkZTL8g

    You will note he did not get the featured, shoot even only got 1 5* which is statistically on point. Even if it did it would not matter, because its sample size is too insignificant to draw conclusions from, it is statistically irrelavant. Antecdotal.
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