Robot Synergies with Guillotine 2099 INTENDED?

Diksh619Diksh619 Posts: 156
edited October 17 in Bugs and Known Issues
Hey folks,

Just saw a video on Seatin's YT channel -
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XyYCpm65D_0
The robot synergy gives all robots 70 % a bar of power on nodes such as caltrops and bio-hazard (A.I. Uprising). The synergy looks too good to be true.
So here is the concern. The champion is yet not available and arenas, crystals are coming soon for the champ. I already have Aegon at r5 sig 200 and i am not interested in this champion. The only reason i will go hard for this champion is because of this synergy that makes my Warlock, Sentinel and Darkhawk awesome.

@Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit Can you please ensure this is intended and not going to be re-balanced later. I don't want to spend time or money investing into this champion if this synergy is later removed or reduced.

I hope this post is taken as a constructive feedback! I really wish this remains to be what it is..
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  • GUARD1ANGUARD1AN Posts: 103
    Congratulations on your Aegon, I have yet to score him above a 3*. :'(
    I agree that Guilly 2099 looks well worth the effort. Won't be going for her in the arenas, since even the 3* will surely go for 3-4x the final milestone. Personally, I don't think they'll rebalance her anytime soon. Seatin quoted a Kabam rep saying that their intention was and is for her to be such an over-potent champion; hopefully they were truthful.
  • Diksh619Diksh619 Posts: 156
    Personally i really like the synergy but we know the history. Just wanted to make sure if i waste 3 days and nights of my life scoring 75m+ i am not kicked in the b$$ls lol
  • NOOOOOOOOPEEEEENOOOOOOOOPEEEEE Posts: 2,105 ★★★★

    It's only going to give a lot of power when you're constantly being inflicted with bleed/poison, like on caltrops and biohazard nodes but in normal fights the power gain won't be that much so i don't think it should be changed

    Agreed. She's intended to be a highly desirable champ for synergies, and to sell crystals (I bet hers won't have an 'Increased chance to drop'). It's not exactly Pay-to-win, but certainly it's Pay-to-make-certain-paths-incredibly-easy.

    Kabam has become pretty creative with nodes; so any time they want to make sure that Robots don't run rampant they can inflict nano-plague, nano-inhibitors, or something like them. Or they can just ramp up the use of Freezerburn and Slashed Tires (which now does Direct Damage instead of bleed...)

    They haven't yet come out with a node that prevents synergies from being active in a fight (called something like 'Isolation', or 'You Stand Alone'?); but they could, if they wanted.

    It's an incredibly powerful ability, but a relatively niche one; and Kabam can control where it's used.
    Slashed tires always did direct damage
  • Colonaut123Colonaut123 Posts: 1,339 ★★★
    As mentioned before, most Biohazard nodes are accompanied by Nano-Plague, the shock damage would only be compensated by Darkhawk's regen. I don't think it will be that OP.

    In certain match-ups it will be significantly (Morningstar comes to mind) but overall majority will have no effect.
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Posts: 1,230 ★★★
    I believe this synergy will get changed somehow.
  • RazorDevilRazorDevil Posts: 680 ★★★
    It's too strong against biohazard and caltrops, hell it's even too strong in normal matchups if you have suicides. In my opinion Guillotine 2099 is too versatile. Too many abilities packed in one champion, considering the fact that we still have champs with 2 lines of abilities... Kabam should focus more on older champions than releasing 3 champions in 1 month.
  • Longshot_33Longshot_33 Posts: 75
    Absolutely she will get re-balanced. No champ is safe now. But not before people have laid out the hard earned cash and spent the resources etc will she be changed entirely.
  • danielmathdanielmath Posts: 1,674 ★★★★

    Absolutely she will get re-balanced. No champ is safe now. But not before people have laid out the hard earned cash and spent the resources etc will she be changed entirely.

    because there's enough fools who actually believe this, what new champs that got released in the last year or 2 were ACTUALLY re-balanced? can you name 1?
  • Haji_SaabHaji_Saab Posts: 3,258 ★★★★★

    Absolutely she will get re-balanced. No champ is safe now. But not before people have laid out the hard earned cash and spent the resources etc will she be changed entirely.

    because there's enough fools who actually believe this, what new champs that got released in the last year or 2 were ACTUALLY re-balanced? can you name 1?
    The rebalance program started with the release of Human Torch. The first OP champ after that was Cull and he is getting rebalanced. We will only know in December what will happen to Namor.
  • Haji_SaabHaji_Saab Posts: 3,258 ★★★★★
    if people are wowed by this synergy on caltrops, I can only say that they haven’t seen Ghost on caltrops.
  • SettlersofCatanSettlersofCatan Posts: 94

    They haven't yet come out with a node that prevents synergies from being active in a fight (called something like 'Isolation', or 'You Stand Alone'?); but they could, if they wanted.

    Here's another..

    Node prevents sig ability from activating >:)

    *flies away*
  • FreeToPlay_21FreeToPlay_21 Posts: 1,331 ★★★★
    I remember Seatin saying that he had a talk with the devs about Guillotine 2099 and the A.I. Uprising synergy. The devs said that Guillotine 2099 is supposed to be this Beyond god tier crazy champion, that was their original intention. There's a good 9/10 chance she won't be rebalanced.

  • Ace_03Ace_03 Posts: 848 ★★★★
    edited October 17

    I remember Seatin saying that he had a talk with the devs about Guillotine 2099 and the A.I. Uprising synergy. The devs said that Guillotine 2099 is supposed to be this Beyond god tier crazy champion, that was their original intention. There's a good 9/10 chance she won't be rebalanced.

    That is a gross misquotation, none of what you wrote was verbalized nor claimed. What he did say (seatin) was that they were happy where Guillotine 2099 was, abilities wise. Nothing was mentioned explicitly about her synergies.

    All of this is a moot point anyways, because as you know, this is all "at this time". Later on (tomorrow) it could be different and most importantly...

    It's not like they haven't gone back their words and claims in the past. I watched about 5 minutes of Seatin's video. After the first caltrops fight I knew that it's too overpowered. I bet they will still wait to rebalance it, I say this: If it looks broken; stay away from it cause you know it's coming, that balancing is more certain than death and taxes.
  • GamerGamer Posts: 4,852 ★★★★
    It only overpowered one node suck as call trops. One a normal fight it won’t be as op.
  • danielmathdanielmath Posts: 1,674 ★★★★
    Haji_Saab said:

    Absolutely she will get re-balanced. No champ is safe now. But not before people have laid out the hard earned cash and spent the resources etc will she be changed entirely.

    because there's enough fools who actually believe this, what new champs that got released in the last year or 2 were ACTUALLY re-balanced? can you name 1?
    The rebalance program started with the release of Human Torch. The first OP champ after that was Cull and he is getting rebalanced. We will only know in December what will happen to Namor.
    Cull is mediocre, and he isn't getting rebalanced
  • Greifmaster911Greifmaster911 Posts: 316 ★★
    The nodes were already useless against robots and stuff, the synergy just makes it fun
  • NeotwismNeotwism Posts: 808 ★★★
    I my opinion, this is what the ccp program should find while testing new champs. I know seatin isn't part of he program anymore, but i still think it's members should find possible bugs like this and then have a direct line with kabam to ask if it is intended before releasing the champs. This could have been changed with only a few ppl realizing the synergies potential before she was released. With this video out, now thousands of ppl know and will all complain if kabam releases a hotfix and changes her before she is released. This just seems like something that once again someone should have realized and tested before now. We shouldn't be finding out if a synergy is working as intended right before she is released. That's a major reason ppl go after certain new champs in the first place
  • Ace_03Ace_03 Posts: 848 ★★★★
    Here's an idea:

    Why not just eliminate it? So there is no bugs where it still triggers at original values or it doesn't trigger at all. There is no need for a synergy like that, just give them more attack, like the Warlock synergy and leave it at that.
  • RoninManRoninMan Posts: 549 ★★★
    Neotwism said:

    I my opinion, this is what the ccp program should find while testing new champs. I know seatin isn't part of he program anymore, but i still think it's members should find possible bugs like this and then have a direct line with kabam to ask if it is intended before releasing the champs. This could have been changed with only a few ppl realizing the synergies potential before she was released. With this video out, now thousands of ppl know and will all complain if kabam releases a hotfix and changes her before she is released. This just seems like something that once again someone should have realized and tested before now. We shouldn't be finding out if a synergy is working as intended right before she is released. That's a major reason ppl go after certain new champs in the first place

    She hasn’t been released yet with synergies so she can still technically be a work in progress. If they decide to release her to everyone without the synergy, it affects literally nobody.
  • Ace_03Ace_03 Posts: 848 ★★★★
    Neotwism said:

    I my opinion, this is what the ccp program should find while testing new champs. I know seatin isn't part of he program anymore, but i still think it's members should find possible bugs like this and then have a direct line with kabam to ask if it is intended before releasing the champs. This could have been changed with only a few ppl realizing the synergies potential before she was released. With this video out, now thousands of ppl know and will all complain if kabam releases a hotfix and changes her before she is released. This just seems like something that once again someone should have realized and tested before now. We shouldn't be finding out if a synergy is working as intended right before she is released. That's a major reason ppl go after certain new champs in the first place

    Not officially in the game for another 2 weeks, if it's changed now it's fair. Rather now than 6 months later. 4 people will be mad, the 4 people who have the 6* variant, they'll get over it and everyone else can just deal with it, this is the best case scenario.
  • LormifLormif Posts: 4,957 ★★★★★
    RoninMan said:

    Neotwism said:

    I my opinion, this is what the ccp program should find while testing new champs. I know seatin isn't part of he program anymore, but i still think it's members should find possible bugs like this and then have a direct line with kabam to ask if it is intended before releasing the champs. This could have been changed with only a few ppl realizing the synergies potential before she was released. With this video out, now thousands of ppl know and will all complain if kabam releases a hotfix and changes her before she is released. This just seems like something that once again someone should have realized and tested before now. We shouldn't be finding out if a synergy is working as intended right before she is released. That's a major reason ppl go after certain new champs in the first place

    She hasn’t been released yet with synergies so she can still technically be a work in progress. If they decide to release her to everyone without the synergy, it affects literally nobody.
    Except all the people who currently have her, like seatin, from comiccon.. So it litterally affects some people.
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 171
    Diksh619 said:

    Personally i really like the synergy but we know the history. Just wanted to make sure if i waste 3 days and nights of my life scoring 75m+ i am not kicked in the b$$ls lol

    I don’t think it’s that OP.

    It will shine every now and again.

    Kind of how stark can parry stun Permanently with green goblin and morales on the team. Especially in variant 3.
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