Loki - Coldsnap Inmunity
monomugg
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Should Loki be coldsnap inmune, since, according to his bio he's "the son of a frost giant"? just wondering
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Sentry
Phoenix
Ghost Rider
Captain Marvel
Should all be immune to incinerate
Iceman
Loki (great shout)
Ronan (arguments could be made against this one)
Should all be immune to coldsnap
And based on source material Silver Surfer should be Coldsnap immune and Incinerate immune at the very least.
If Ghost Rider is immune to incinerate in the comics, thats okay. If he is not immune to it in the game, that is okay as well. They are not the same and decisions like that shouldn't be decised on something like "just because he can do it there he should be able to do it here"
Colossus got reworked and given the applicable immunities. All i'm saying is.. so should the above champions. Juggernaut has ever been unbeatable, nor has ghost rider.
It was getting silly when storm and Thor were suffering from full on shock in game..so they sorted that with some adjustments. The same needs to happen with the above champs. And yes, even though rider is already a great champ he should get some form or resistance at the very least against fire.
I agree that certain toning down/up needs to happen to make Punisher vs Silver Surfer viable but outright omitting common sense mechanics is what is silly.
The Collector, or the Grandmaster, can essentially enslave the Hulk and force him to fight characters like Black Widow. If the Elders can manipulate Hulk’s power to the point the Black Widow can beat him down, is it so unbelievable they can make Ghost Rider susceptible to incinerate?
So the next time you’re wondering why Loki or Iceman aren’t immune to cold, blame it on the Elders, who are just trying to add some balance to their contest.
On a macro level, yes can’t dissect what champ could actually fight or even “be in the same arena” with another champ (Hawkeye vs Hulk for example). It is a game. But on a much much smaller level, talking about and maybe adding logical immunities doesn’t and shouldn’t disrupt any game flow.
Sometimes reading certain posts from certain users seems like it’s more of a pointing finger battle or like the opinion comes from a “stop asking for things, you do that too much and Im going help police these spoiled demands” perspective. Doesn’t seem very helpful, seems more like scolding.
Also, I think Lex's explanation isn't like super-convincing, but in general is a good way to in-game explain away the inconsistency.
All are acceptable, and all make sense. It's a fictional universe, anything happens. Even if Ghost Rider is affected by fire, or if Iceman is affected by ice, it makes sense on a fictional universe. We just need to accept it the way it is
Nobody is asking game breaking changes to follow comics exactly. Otherwise, weaker champs won’t be able to compete with godlike champs in comics.
But an immunity for certain champs is not game breaker. For example, ghost rider being incinerate immune is not game breaker and makes more sense. Maybe game designers just didn’t make him incinerate immune because which champs have incinerate damage when ghost rider came out?
Suppose game designers made Iceman use gun and shoots lasers when fighting because they don’t have to follow comics, do you think that is good game design?
Sure, it’s cherry picking but that what game developer are doing because they really can’t copy the comics exactly or else some champs would really be OP and others are just useless champs.
Game developers can make ghost rider incinerate immune without bringing in other abilities for him that would make him so OP.
People arguing or asking for ghost rider incinerate immunity (Or for other champs) is as valid as your point that he is not incinerate immune because game developers designed it that way.
The point is it’s not silly if people say some champs should have certain abilities based on comics. They are not saying all abilities in comics for each champs should be in this game
So we should be grateful they actually balanced things out so that all champions can stand against each other without being hopelessly miss matched. Sure, it means they have to take some (rather big) liberties with the champs abilities.
That being said, some champs do have abilities that they are strongly identified with, some iconic powers or abilities that makes them the character they are. The game designers have to try to get those right at least, as to not destroy the champ. Some abilities are more important to get right.