Let's discuss what Act 6 Rewards COMPLETION and EXPLORATION ought to look like. Get the ball rolling

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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,261 ★★★★★

    I would hardly call those sad. Your expectations were pretty high.

    Doesn’t mean it’s still not sad. Surely even you can admit they’re off the mark on this one
    Dude, you are talking about the biggest full time internet troll out there. No, trolls don’t admit anything just to argue.
    Full-time Internet Troll? Highly doubtful. Sorry, but the Rewards are fair. That's what always happens in these cases. People develop all kinds of expectations, and when they come out in a reasonable way, they're disappointed. If they didn't make sense, that would be different. These make sense.
    How would you know if these rewards are fair if you don’t even play the game anymore? You have absolutely NO IDEA what rewards are & aren’t valued in-game right now, because you don’t even play it 😂. This is what I mean by trolling. You are not here about the game, because you don’t even play it. You are here to argue online & that is all.
    I've still been here. It's only been a few months since I've actually played. I hardly think there are complex factors I don't understand since then. If you're going to debate my points, then address the actual points. Otherwise you're just deflecting with an irrelevant point.
    I’m deflecting the point that you have a clue about what you are talking about. You haven’t played the game in months, & even when you did, I VERY HIGHLY doubt you stepped foot into Act 6. Yet you say the rewards are fair? That’s like me saying Popeyes has the best chicken sandwich ever, when I’ve never even tried it Lol. Your literally just here to spew nonsense.
    Now I need a chicken sandwich. True story.. I thought they were over-hyped... they weren't.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,620 ★★★★★

    I would hardly call those sad. Your expectations were pretty high.

    Doesn’t mean it’s still not sad. Surely even you can admit they’re off the mark on this one
    Dude, you are talking about the biggest full time internet troll out there. No, trolls don’t admit anything just to argue.
    Full-time Internet Troll? Highly doubtful. Sorry, but the Rewards are fair. That's what always happens in these cases. People develop all kinds of expectations, and when they come out in a reasonable way, they're disappointed. If they didn't make sense, that would be different. These make sense.
    How would you know if these rewards are fair if you don’t even play the game anymore? You have absolutely NO IDEA what rewards are & aren’t valued in-game right now, because you don’t even play it 😂. This is what I mean by trolling. You are not here about the game, because you don’t even play it. You are here to argue online & that is all.
    I've still been here. It's only been a few months since I've actually played. I hardly think there are complex factors I don't understand since then. If you're going to debate my points, then address the actual points. Otherwise you're just deflecting with an irrelevant point.
    I’m deflecting the point that you have a clue about what you are talking about. You haven’t played the game in months, & even when you did, I VERY HIGHLY doubt you stepped foot into Act 6. Yet you say the rewards are fair? That’s like me saying Popeyes has the best chicken sandwich ever, when I’ve never even tried it Lol. Your literally just here to spew nonsense.
    No. You're avoiding what we're actually discussing with some dig about how I don't play the game anymore when in fact, I've been here for over 4 years and retired a few months ago. You're reaching. Care to discuss what I actually said, or are you diverting again?
    How exactly are the Rewards sad?
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  • Fred_JoeityFred_Joeity Member Posts: 1,168 ★★★
    The rewards are mostly seen as sad since expectations had gone up with the release of Abyss
  • TheBestinTuakauTheBestinTuakau Member Posts: 955 ★★★
    I can't speak for anyone but myself. For me these rewards are great, but then again I only just finished act 5 a week or two ago. I can't imagine what I'll need when I get to 6.4, but for my current roster these rewards are amazing
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,620 ★★★★★

    I would hardly call those sad. Your expectations were pretty high.

    Doesn’t mean it’s still not sad. Surely even you can admit they’re off the mark on this one
    Dude, you are talking about the biggest full time internet troll out there. No, trolls don’t admit anything just to argue.
    Full-time Internet Troll? Highly doubtful. Sorry, but the Rewards are fair. That's what always happens in these cases. People develop all kinds of expectations, and when they come out in a reasonable way, they're disappointed. If they didn't make sense, that would be different. These make sense.
    How would you know if these rewards are fair if you don’t even play the game anymore? You have absolutely NO IDEA what rewards are & aren’t valued in-game right now, because you don’t even play it 😂. This is what I mean by trolling. You are not here about the game, because you don’t even play it. You are here to argue online & that is all.
    I've still been here. It's only been a few months since I've actually played. I hardly think there are complex factors I don't understand since then. If you're going to debate my points, then address the actual points. Otherwise you're just deflecting with an irrelevant point.
    I’m deflecting the point that you have a clue about what you are talking about. You haven’t played the game in months, & even when you did, I VERY HIGHLY doubt you stepped foot into Act 6. Yet you say the rewards are fair? That’s like me saying Popeyes has the best chicken sandwich ever, when I’ve never even tried it Lol. Your literally just here to spew nonsense.
    No. You're avoiding what we're actually discussing with some dig about how I don't play the game anymore when in fact, I've been here for over 4 years and retired a few months ago. You're reaching. Care to discuss what I actually said, or are you diverting again?
    How exactly are the Rewards sad?
    Why on earth would you want to discuss content you’ve never played? That’s like talking about plumbing when you don’t have the 1st clue about being a plumber. You have no idea to what scale the rewards should be at, because you’ve never reached that point of the game, even when you did play 😂. It’s ridiculous why you are even here. If you ever did a single fight at an endgame level, your point of view would be valid. But if you are a retired player that hasn’t played in months that never even came close to an endgame level, your view not valid.
    I see. You're not interested in discussing the subject. Just me. Welp....let me know if you change your focus.
  • raffsterraffster Member Posts: 1,071 ★★★

    I can't speak for anyone but myself. For me these rewards are great, but then again I only just finished act 5 a week or two ago. I can't imagine what I'll need when I get to 6.4, but for my current roster these rewards are amazing

    Please remember to post what you think once you've done an initial completion up to Act 6.3.
  • raffsterraffster Member Posts: 1,071 ★★★
    @GroundedWisdom I don't remember who or when this was first said, "6*s are the future". If Act 6 is going to be the final Act of MCOC then I will change my position to say that the rewards are actually not bad. But if there's going to be an Act 7 next year or beyond then the rewards are not just sad but dismal beyond despair. If there will be an Act 7 then R5 5*s (15K PI fighting 80-100K nodes 8 to 10 to 15 times per path before a 120-150K boss) will be the same as R4 3*s (2-3K PI fighting 30-50K nodes) being used in Act 6- 6K.

    If the intention and purpose of 6*s is to replace the 5*s (as it should be) then the final rewards (completion and exploration) should help prepare for future end-game content, in this case, Act 7.

    But if this game stops at Act 6 then maybe these Act 6 final rewards are okay (not great, but okay).
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,620 ★★★★★
    The game isn't stopping at Act 6, although the next phase is probably not coming right away. A Max 5* isn't going to be phased out that easily. We literally just had the introduction of R3 6*s. The Rewards are in proportion to what's currently available, and scaled along the same lines as other Completion and Exploration Rewards, only higher in rank. There's not too many 6* Gems available. Full T5CC, full T5B, a 4-5 Gem....they're not bad.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,620 ★★★★★
    Not to mention the other Shards, Gems, etc.
  • raffsterraffster Member Posts: 1,071 ★★★
    @GroundedWisdom You did not consider the difficulty of obtaining a 6* as opposed to obtaining a 5*. The ratio doesn't scale if you compare when 5*s were scaled against obtaining 4*s. When 5*s were still very hard to get I still managed to get one at least every 2 - 2.5 months.

    Where I stand, I can pull a new 5* once every two weeks or so, for 6*s is every 3-4 months. And with so many trash champs in the 6* pool, I've not been lucky at all to get even 5 good 6*s from the 23 6*s that I have. And of course RNG has totally been on my side because I've awakened 5 of my crappiest 6*s.

    The completion rewards should at the very minimum have a 6* random class awakening. That gives us a chance to awaken perhaps one of the few 6*s we have that can go past R2.

  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,620 ★★★★★
    raffster said:

    @GroundedWisdom You did not consider the difficulty of obtaining a 6* as opposed to obtaining a 5*. The ratio doesn't scale if you compare when 5*s were scaled against obtaining 4*s. When 5*s were still very hard to get I still managed to get one at least every 2 - 2.5 months.

    Where I stand, I can pull a new 5* once every two weeks or so, for 6*s is every 3-4 months. And with so many trash champs in the 6* pool, I've not been lucky at all to get even 5 good 6*s from the 23 6*s that I have. And of course RNG has totally been on my side because I've awakened 5 of my crappiest 6*s.

    The completion rewards should at the very minimum have a 6* random class awakening. That gives us a chance to awaken perhaps one of the few 6*s we have that can go past R2.

    Seeing as how a 6* Gem is as rare as it gets, it's logically going to be the Exploration Reward.
  • raffsterraffster Member Posts: 1,071 ★★★
    Seeing as how you will get the 6* class awakening you actually need is as rare as it gets, it's logical that it should be at least in the Completion Reward.
  • NeotwismNeotwism Member Posts: 1,803 ★★★★★
    raffster said:

    @GroundedWisdom I don't remember who or when this was first said, "6*s are the future". If Act 6 is going to be the final Act of MCOC then I will change my position to say that the rewards are actually not bad. But if there's going to be an Act 7 next year or beyond then the rewards are not just sad but dismal beyond despair. If there will be an Act 7 then R5 5*s (15K PI fighting 80-100K nodes 8 to 10 to 15 times per path before a 120-150K boss) will be the same as R4 3*s (2-3K PI fighting 30-50K nodes) being used in Act 6- 6K.

    If the intention and purpose of 6*s is to replace the 5*s (as it should be) then the final rewards (completion and exploration) should help prepare for future end-game content, in this case, Act 7.

    But if this game stops at Act 6 then maybe these Act 6 final rewards are okay (not great, but okay).

    They have already mentioned act 7.
  • Thecrusher_9756Thecrusher_9756 Member Posts: 772 ★★★

    I would hardly call those sad. Your expectations were pretty high.

    Doesn’t mean it’s still not sad. Surely even you can admit they’re off the mark on this one

    And what about the rank 2-3 5* gems for completion of the hardest content in game? Or the 4 cav crystals? Have you opened one before (not a dig) but the likelihood you actually get a champion you can even bring in to this content is very slim. A bit sad if you ask me...
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