Warning: 6* max sig dupe

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  • Das_giDas_gi Member Posts: 320 ★★
    That’s a problem only the huge whales have
  • shadow_lurker22shadow_lurker22 Member Posts: 3,245 ★★★★★
    Guess some people don't understand the concept of a joke
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  • RidwandoRidwando Member Posts: 18

    Seriously, it is what it is. Did you get any shards from any other six star dupes....no
    So why expect anything at max sig.....
    Waste of a thread

    He would get 20 sig levels from any other six star dupes. He is getting nothing comparable when he dupes a max sig six star though. His question is perfectly legitimate, and people arguing that this is how things have been are completely missing the point.
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  • AleorAleor Member Posts: 3,103 ★★★★★
    Would double iso amount make any change for you? I mean, 6* eboni mau I pulled from my latest 6* doesn't mean anything as well, would've gladly take even 50 5* shards instead. You obviously have a great roster anyway, just chill and let it go
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  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,140 ★★★★★
    DrZola said:

    I’m eager to have this kind of existential MCoC problem...eventually. However, it will most likely be with my 6* Kingpin, so maybe not.

    Dr. Zola

    For the person who disagreed above, do tell! Do you think it will be my 6* Luke Cage, or maybe 6* VtD? Or someone else altogether? How exciting!

    Do you know something I don’t? The suspense is killing me, you prescient phantom disagreer! Spill the beans!

    Dr. Zola
  • PiviotPiviot Member Posts: 658 ★★★
    Didn’t they also when 6* come out the very first time playable give the 6* shards for every true dupe of a 5* ? I could be wrong but I don’t think so
  • FishweaselFishweasel Member Posts: 186 ★★
    I have an idea on how it could be handled. Until the next star champion is available, simply prevent it from happening in the first place.

    Once max sig level is reached for a top star champion, that champion is simply removed from the pool for that summoner. This way it would prevent it from happening and there wouldn’t be concerns about reward levels (too much, not enough, etc.). If there are worries about how that impacts the % chances for pulling another champ, this prevention could be limited to the basic pool only where the pool of champs is so large, it’s not likely to have a meaningful impact on the odds of spinning a certain other champion.
  • NiteAndDaeNiteAndDae Member Posts: 670 ★★★

    I have an idea on how it could be handled. Until the next star champion is available, simply prevent it from happening in the first place.

    Once max sig level is reached for a top star champion, that champion is simply removed from the pool for that summoner. This way it would prevent it from happening and there wouldn’t be concerns about reward levels (too much, not enough, etc.). If there are worries about how that impacts the % chances for pulling another champ, this prevention could be limited to the basic pool only where the pool of champs is so large, it’s not likely to have a meaningful impact on the odds of spinning a certain other champion.

    Nah, that doesn't work. If that happened, then if I spent enough, I'll end up with every single champ at Max sig. Then it is pure pay to win without the randomness, and thus without the diminishing returns.
  • FishweaselFishweasel Member Posts: 186 ★★
    edited April 2020

    I have an idea on how it could be handled. Until the next star champion is available, simply prevent it from happening in the first place.

    Once max sig level is reached for a top star champion, that champion is simply removed from the pool for that summoner. This way it would prevent it from happening and there wouldn’t be concerns about reward levels (too much, not enough, etc.). If there are worries about how that impacts the % chances for pulling another champ, this prevention could be limited to the basic pool only where the pool of champs is so large, it’s not likely to have a meaningful impact on the odds of spinning a certain other champion.

    Nah, that doesn't work. If that happened, then if I spent enough, I'll end up with every single champ at Max sig. Then it is pure pay to win without the randomness, and thus without the diminishing returns.
    I don’t disagree with that. The thought would be 7* would come out before people could reach that point but maybe that’s not the case. I only have one max sig so that’s my perspective. I know there are plenty of others way ahead of that currently. Still, trying to think of some ideas. Gold isn’t a bad one as was mentioned earlier in the post. It’s always in short supply so at least you would get something.
  • NiteAndDaeNiteAndDae Member Posts: 670 ★★★

    I have an idea on how it could be handled. Until the next star champion is available, simply prevent it from happening in the first place.

    Once max sig level is reached for a top star champion, that champion is simply removed from the pool for that summoner. This way it would prevent it from happening and there wouldn’t be concerns about reward levels (too much, not enough, etc.). If there are worries about how that impacts the % chances for pulling another champ, this prevention could be limited to the basic pool only where the pool of champs is so large, it’s not likely to have a meaningful impact on the odds of spinning a certain other champion.

    Nah, that doesn't work. If that happened, then if I spent enough, I'll end up with every single champ at Max sig. Then it is pure pay to win without the randomness, and thus without the diminishing returns.
    I don’t disagree with that. The thought would be 7* would come out before people could reach that point but maybe that’s not the case. I only have one max sig so that’s my perspective. I know there are plenty of others way ahead of that currently. Still, trying to think of some ideas. Gold isn’t a bad one as was mentioned earlier in the post. It’s always in short supply so at least you would get something.
    Since 7* are on the horizon, my guess is, it's already coded to give 7* crystal shards, so just as we did with 5*, need to wait until they simply turn it on. No way they will temporarily hack it to give something other than 7* shards right now. I tried this same argument when I have max 5* Sig's before 6* came out. Fell on deaf ears, as it's pretty much a 1st world problem. just minimize your crystal openings and hope you don't dupe max sig champs (I have more than a few at Max sig, and it sucks to dupe them further). Open featureds to increase odds of new champs.

    If the book 2 beta has 7* champs in it, that's a good sign that we will get them sooner than later, but probably not until next year or even later.
  • FishweaselFishweasel Member Posts: 186 ★★

    I have an idea on how it could be handled. Until the next star champion is available, simply prevent it from happening in the first place.

    Once max sig level is reached for a top star champion, that champion is simply removed from the pool for that summoner. This way it would prevent it from happening and there wouldn’t be concerns about reward levels (too much, not enough, etc.). If there are worries about how that impacts the % chances for pulling another champ, this prevention could be limited to the basic pool only where the pool of champs is so large, it’s not likely to have a meaningful impact on the odds of spinning a certain other champion.

    Nah, that doesn't work. If that happened, then if I spent enough, I'll end up with every single champ at Max sig. Then it is pure pay to win without the randomness, and thus without the diminishing returns.
    I don’t disagree with that. The thought would be 7* would come out before people could reach that point but maybe that’s not the case. I only have one max sig so that’s my perspective. I know there are plenty of others way ahead of that currently. Still, trying to think of some ideas. Gold isn’t a bad one as was mentioned earlier in the post. It’s always in short supply so at least you would get something.
    Since 7* are on the horizon, my guess is, it's already coded to give 7* crystal shards, so just as we did with 5*, need to wait until they simply turn it on. No way they will temporarily hack it to give something other than 7* shards right now. I tried this same argument when I have max 5* Sig's before 6* came out. Fell on deaf ears, as it's pretty much a 1st world problem. just minimize your crystal openings and hope you don't dupe max sig champs (I have more than a few at Max sig, and it sucks to dupe them further). Open featureds to increase odds of new champs.

    If the book 2 beta has 7* champs in it, that's a good sign that we will get them sooner than later, but probably not until next year or even later.
    Yeah, I’ll definitely be cautious about it moving forward. I like your idea of 180 max sigs and leave it - that’s good advice. For CAIW I don’t like leaving debuffs to chance which is why I took him to 200. I saw others on the post also did Namor which also makes sense. I will certainly think twice about it before putting myself in this situation again. Sorry it happened to you with 5*, and appreciate the insight.
  • FishweaselFishweasel Member Posts: 186 ★★
    @NiteAndDae appreciate the insight, and sorry you went through this on the 5*. I’ll definitely be more cautious moving forward. Seems like a case of buyer beware so need to implement strategies to avoid a total loss of 10 or 15k 6* shards. I would do featured but I’m really looking to dupe ghost and she isn’t in that pool unfortunately. Your idea of maxing at 180 sigs is something I will definitely do now. Have you been able to dodge the max sig 6* dupe?
  • NiteAndDaeNiteAndDae Member Posts: 670 ★★★

    @NiteAndDae appreciate the insight, and sorry you went through this on the 5*. I’ll definitely be more cautious moving forward. Seems like a case of buyer beware so need to implement strategies to avoid a total loss of 10 or 15k 6* shards. I would do featured but I’m really looking to dupe ghost and she isn’t in that pool unfortunately. Your idea of maxing at 180 sigs is something I will definitely do now. Have you been able to dodge the max sig 6* dupe?

    I have minimized my Max sig dupes. I took corvus to sig 180, and then pulled him 3 times, so the last two were totally useless. But, what can you do? I have to say, I'm pulling those same champs less and less, and it's balancing out over time.
  • FishweaselFishweasel Member Posts: 186 ★★
    @NiteAndDae yeah, that sucks man. Sorry about Corvus. I would have gladly taken that and and traded my caiw spin :). My corvus is R2 with no dupe.
  • GreekhitGreekhit Member Posts: 2,820 ★★★★★
    I can understand Kabam’s end not to release a 6* max sig yet, since there are not still 7*s. On the other hand, duping a 6* lvl200 and getting less items than duping a 4* would make anyone frustrated. 5*s should award 48x tier5 class iso and 6*s 72x tier5 class iso since their introduction. At least a 72x t5 class iso chunk would be something. The wrong calculations (or more likely wrong decisions) from the developers, have caused issues like that.
  • spaceoctopusspaceoctopus Member Posts: 1,111 ★★★
    All max sig crystals should be replaced with a Nexus crystal of the same star level.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★

    All max sig crystals should be replaced with a Nexus crystal of the same star level.

    Stuff like this is why hardly anyone takes community opinion seriously amymore
  • FishweaselFishweasel Member Posts: 186 ★★
    edited April 2020

    All max sig crystals should be replaced with a Nexus crystal of the same star level.

    Stuff like this is why hardly anyone takes community opinion seriously amymore
    Surely there is something in between? It also shouldn’t be “nothing”, which is what it is now.
  • NmbghjjuNmbghjju Member Posts: 22
    Took me 3 weeks to save enough shards to open a 6* crystal and got Aegon which I already have as max sig.
    In fact, this 6* Aegon is the only one that's max sig in my roster, yet I pulled him again. What are the odds of that?

    Got 24 T5 ISO and 1,163 gold. That reward is actually even more disappointing than pulling a new lousy champ which at least I can still use in arena.

    Come on Kabam. Haven't you guys thought about this?
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  • Duke_SilverDuke_Silver Member Posts: 2,421 ★★★★
    At the very least, duping a 6* should give you T6 class iso.
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  • _hbtygbty423__hbtygbty423_ Member Posts: 562 ★★
    are you da one who prof hoff commentated?
  • BigManOnCampusBigManOnCampus Member Posts: 376 ★★★

    Hello fellow summoners. Just wanted to warn everyone - if you dupe a max sig 6*, all you get is 24 pieces of ISO and 1,163 pieces of gold. No max sig crystal and no other compensation of any kind. I happen to have only 1 max sig 6* and happened to pull a dupe recently. It was like my 10k 6* shards vanished with nothing in return. Anyone else having this problem? Do you think it’s fair compensation to get virtually nothing for duping a max sig 6*?

    Cowhale spoke about this over a year ago on his youtube page , he would always be pissed when it happened..
    rightfully so..
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    Time to revive this thread? More and more people are slowly getting 6* dupes, with more of the community getting 6* max sig.

    Yes this is a problem for the top 1%, but its still a problem. A max sig crystal with a heap of iso, gold, or sig stones would be nice. I'd say an awakening gem, but with the rarity I wouldn't recommend that be introduced until at least mid way through Book 2.
    Even if it gave back a percentage of your 6* shards so it doesn't feel like a complete loss, considering the money and effort it would take to reach a max sig 6*, or multiples ones.

    It would be a nice gesture to some of your biggest players.

    It is not really a problem unless you are someone who feels entitled to something you are not.
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