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Why Incinerate immune Havok takes damage from Rulk

DictatorDave1210DictatorDave1210 Posts: 6 ★
edited May 2020 in Suggestions and Requests
Incinerate immune champs like havok should not take damage from RedHulk's Incinerate charges. Cause incinerate immune champs taking damage from incinerate charges just do not make any sense.

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    TerraTerra Posts: 8,005 ★★★★★
    Rulk deals physical burst damage when he has charges. It's not incinerate damage, but direct damage. It makes sense that he deals this extra damage on basic hits.
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    Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Posts: 13,763 ★★★★★
    They do not. Read the abilities
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    Agent_X_zzzAgent_X_zzz Posts: 4,494 ★★★★★
    red Hulks damage is not incinerate based It is energy based
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    GreekhitGreekhit Posts: 2,819 ★★★★★
    edited May 2020
    Terra said:

    Rulk deals physical burst damage when he has charges. It's not incinerate damage, but direct damage. It makes sense that he deals this extra damage on basic hits.

    Direct damage, but still energy damage cause of incineration. It’s an obvious bug. Before stating this just wonder: should Nightcrawler’s direct deep wound bleed deal damage to bleed immune? The answer is no. That should also happen with Red Hulks INCINERATE energy damage. It’s the same. A bug at its finest.
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    VoltolosVoltolos Posts: 1,120 ★★★
    Greekhit said:

    Terra said:

    Rulk deals physical burst damage when he has charges. It's not incinerate damage, but direct damage. It makes sense that he deals this extra damage on basic hits.

    Direct damage, but still energy damage cause of incineration. It’s an obvious bug. Before stating this just wonder: should Nightcrawler’s direct deep wound bleed deal damage to bleed immune? The answer is no. That should also happen with Red Hulks INCINERATE energy damage. It’s the same. A bug at its finest.
    It's neither incinerate nor energy damage. Read Rulks abilities
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    TwmRTwmR Posts: 662 ★★★
    Greekhit said:

    Terra said:

    Rulk deals physical burst damage when he has charges. It's not incinerate damage, but direct damage. It makes sense that he deals this extra damage on basic hits.

    Direct damage, but still energy damage cause of incineration. It’s an obvious bug. Before stating this just wonder: should Nightcrawler’s direct deep wound bleed deal damage to bleed immune? The answer is no. That should also happen with Red Hulks INCINERATE energy damage. It’s the same. A bug at its finest.
    It's not incinerate energy damage it's just energy damage
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    GreekhitGreekhit Posts: 2,819 ★★★★★
    So what type of energy damage is if not from his HEAT charges? Shock? 🤣
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    CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    Its not even energy damage anymore, was changed with RH’s update. IIRC It used to be incinerate energy before that update which is likely where the confusion arises.
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    Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Posts: 13,763 ★★★★★
    Greekhit said:

    So what type of energy damage is if not from his HEAT charges? Shock? 🤣

    Do you even know how to read champion's abilities?

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/46427/results-of-luke-cage-and-red-hulk-beta-test#latest

    "Whenever Red Hulk loses 10% of his Max Health, he gains 1 Heat Charge. For each Heat Charge he has, his attacks deal an additional 18% of the damage dealt as a burst of Physical Damage"

    The direct damage is physical damage. Neither energy damage or even incinerate damage
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    CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    edited May 2020
    I was wrong about incinerate energy as the Redhulk in LoL lists it as energy.

    There are two Redhulk’s in this game, one deals physical direct damage and the other deals energy direct damage.


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    VoltolosVoltolos Posts: 1,120 ★★★
    walkerdog said:

    DictatorDave1210 said:

    Incinerate immune champs like havok should not take damage from RedHulk's Incinerate charges. Cause incinerate immune champs taking damage from incinerate charges just do not make any sense.

    Another example of Kabam's employees using descriptive language instead of a keyword that would clarify the interaction. It could be "radiation charges" if they wanted to use a word that isn't overlapping quite a bit with a current ability that would be descriptive and still explain was going on.
    No it's an example of people misremembering champion descriptions and instead of just simply checing it ingame they make a forum post complaining about bugs that aren't even bugs. Here: Rulks charges are called "heat charges" not "incinerate charges"
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    DictatorDave1210DictatorDave1210 Posts: 6 ★
    edited May 2020
    Hey there over-smart. You talking about "Heat charges". A person that can't get hurt by incinerate attacks will be affected by heat ?
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    Lvernon15Lvernon15 Posts: 11,596 ★★★★★
    DictatorDave1210 said:

    Hey there over-smart. You talking about "Heat charges". A person that can't incinerate will be affected by heat

    Does it say incinerate damage in rulk‘s kit? No, then it’s not incinerate is it?
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    Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Posts: 13,763 ★★★★★
    DictatorDave1210 said:

    Hey there over-smart. You talking about "Heat charges". A person that can't get hurt by incinerate attacks will be affected by heat ?

    There is no "heat" mechanic or ability in the game.
    Red hulk gains "charges". Each charge gives an additional burst of physical damage on every attack.
    Havoc is not immune to physical damage. He will take that damage
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    Lvernon15Lvernon15 Posts: 11,596 ★★★★★
    edited May 2020
    will-o-wisp said:

    DictatorDave1210 said:

    Hey there over-smart. You talking about "Heat charges". A person that can't get hurt by incinerate attacks will be affected by heat ?

    There is no "heat" mechanic or ability in the game.
    Red hulk gains "charges". Each charge gives an additional burst of physical damage on every attack.
    Havoc is not immune to physical damage. He will take that damage
    Yeah
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    studogvetmedstudogvetmed Posts: 7 ★
    From a lore standpoint we could argue why Havok should either take less damage or no damage from Red Hulks direct damage from Heat charges since Havok is supposed to be "immune to most forms of Radiation and Heat", and the lore behind Red Hulks Heat charges is increased radiation putting off heat, causing extra damage, etc. The question is does the Heat from Red Hulk actually fall under the 'most' category for Havok to be immune to it, or take less damage from it? Can anyone pull up any specific instances of where Red Hulk and Havok have had to go toe to toe?

    Not so much a bug as a potential oversight of an interaction between the specialties of two characters. But on Paper, as the abilities are presented, there is no 'bug'. We can argue why Havok should take less damage or no damage from this interaction as we could argue that Magneto shouldn't necessarily be able to be hit by Metal projectiles. It's not a bug, but more of an oversight or a limitation to the way abilities can be applied throughout the contest.
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