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Magneto (HoX) is already outdated and really bad
Mastercris
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The red Magneto is an awesome champ and deserves the love he got but the white one is just terrible.
1.His damage output, not only compared to the red one, but to most mutants is just bad. Which is totally ok, if he has utility to compensate that, but that leads us to nr. 2
2. His utility is simply terrible in comparison with the red one. He isn’t as viable as the red ones for some things.
3. Maybe he is intended as a synergy champ, but no he has not the level of synergies champs like mr. Fantastic, Heimdall or Fury bring to the table.
4. But at least he has a pre-Fight ability... that works really bad. The first parry in a fight always fails (bug) and even if it works, you get pushed back by a lot more than usual when parrying. But for what actually: 15 % attack (mediocre) and passive stun (actually cool if it worked correctly), but compared to what champs get from Apocalypse or Mr. F... meh.
So here is my question: what was the goal with that champ? He doesn’t really make Metall and heroe Champs that powerful, for that, his pre fight ability needs more utility (level of red Magneto). Some form of true trike, or miss Counter or just something that make this champs really more useful. Give people a reason to have this Champion on the team, since he hits like a wimp and not like the Magneto. It looks like all the work and love went into the red one and the white one is just there, slightly better but as insignificant as before
1.His damage output, not only compared to the red one, but to most mutants is just bad. Which is totally ok, if he has utility to compensate that, but that leads us to nr. 2
2. His utility is simply terrible in comparison with the red one. He isn’t as viable as the red ones for some things.
3. Maybe he is intended as a synergy champ, but no he has not the level of synergies champs like mr. Fantastic, Heimdall or Fury bring to the table.
4. But at least he has a pre-Fight ability... that works really bad. The first parry in a fight always fails (bug) and even if it works, you get pushed back by a lot more than usual when parrying. But for what actually: 15 % attack (mediocre) and passive stun (actually cool if it worked correctly), but compared to what champs get from Apocalypse or Mr. F... meh.
So here is my question: what was the goal with that champ? He doesn’t really make Metall and heroe Champs that powerful, for that, his pre fight ability needs more utility (level of red Magneto). Some form of true trike, or miss Counter or just something that make this champs really more useful. Give people a reason to have this Champion on the team, since he hits like a wimp and not like the Magneto. It looks like all the work and love went into the red one and the white one is just there, slightly better but as insignificant as before
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From now on, if the new buffed champ got a bug, I'll automatically put it as BAD champ and will never use it anymore.
Kabam don't even do anything to fix it. Typical.
Believe me, apoc, prof x, and red magneto are all better, but to call HoX magneto a bad champion is pure clownery.
Magneto, Prof X and APO buff other champs, this they have in common, but the significance is just way different. I don’t think people will start to use white magnetos buffs for other champs, because the utility is just not good enough for the Endgame. My point is that he is already outdated. He is certainly not as bad as he used to be, but as insignificant. It’s like the carnage buff. Nice buff, but venom stayed a significant champion, carnages buff was nice but he lacked something for the endgame or even for progressive players. For beginners he is fun, but as soon as you reach the second part of act 4, you start to focus more on the utilities. Well, no. it’s just a chance. Compare this magnetism and mutation to the red one, who bypasses miss and autoblock, who gains additional perfect Block Chance which also means longer stuns, Who passively heal blocks Metall champs, who with willpower heals from bleed and shock debuffs and I haven’t even started to write about damage, which is not the point. One brings so much to the table, the other one just not enough to be significant and only this is my issue. He is better than before, he used to be really really bad, but after the buff he is just mediocre in probably the strongest class in the game. He needs something. Either he gets a little more utility or the champs he is supposed to buff, so people consider him in their teams when they are exploring certain parts of the game. I don’t ask for much. Even armor break immunity for the Metall champs he buffs could be a game changer for certain nodes or champions. He can just pull the armor really tight and make it unbreakable against non tech champs for example. So many possibilities to make a champ significant. I see everyone ranking their red magnetos and taking them to all kind of challenges, but nobody seems to care about the white one. Small
Prediction: he will be pointless in the future if he doesn’t get anything extra.
1.)Comparing an apple to a cherry is not what you’re doing here. You’re comparing a microwave to a vacuum cleaner and a freezer.
2.) paragraphs please
3.) Red magneto was designed to be an unstoppable slaughterer of metal champs. White mags was designed to boost metal and hero teammates. Of course magneto is going to do way more to opposing metal champs because that’s how he was designed. While yes red magneto indeed dishes way more damage, white mags’ damage output is better than at least 70% of champs in this game and more than viable enough.
4.) “I don’t think people will use white magneto buffs for other champions, because the utility is not good enough for endgame.” I’m quoting this one because I want to address it directly. For starters not everyone is an endgame player and this game has a vast diversity of players in different points of progression, so this entirely invalidates this statement. While endgame players and massive whales might not use white mags over other champs, Magneto is a very good champ for your average everyday player. Mysterio for example is certainly not as good as warlock, but does that make him bad? Absolutely not. An endgame whale with nearly the entire roster in their hands would certainly take warlock over mysterio, but for your average player who’s still in act 5 or mid act 6 who may not be fortunate to have a warlock would most definitely rank up a mysterio.
5.) Magneto is better than majority of the mutant class, which considering how stacked it is, says a lot. I think both mags are pretty underrated. White Magneto is pretty act 6 viable, and i truly think you might be looking at prebuff mags’ abilities if you believe otherwise. White Magneto is definitely not the best of the best, but that’s okay because he doesn’t have to. Not every champ has to be “broken op tier”. Could Kabam have done a little bit more to make him more relevant? Yea I think so. Does that make him garbage and unviable? Absolutely not.
The comparison with Mysterio and Warlock: Mysterio brings something unique to the table. He has good utilities, yes he is no warlock, but I still consider him relevant for specific fights. He has the Passive heal block, he bypasses domino completely, has a form of power control and has access to poison, which still isn’t that common and that stops spideys from evading. He has his spot. He has a lot of utilities helpful for a progressing player, something he adds to the roster. And right now I don’t think white magneto does this. I want him to be as relevant to Metall and heroes as Heimdall, who has not the restriction. He needs something more, nothing big, just so his PFA can be the solution for certain stuff.
The 10 charge prowess issue has been resolved.
The Cruelty/prowess pause has been resolved.
The Pre-fight fix is supposed to occur with the next update.
I would have you guys try him now.